Tsunade vs Shino, Neji, BM Choji, Kiba, Sakura, Shikamaru, Temari

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Byakogou isn't tanking gentle fist, chakra loss from Shino's bugs or getting sliced to bits by Kiba or Temari. Pretty sure Sakura's punch would also incapacitate Tsunade but that is debatable. As for Katsuyu... well let us just say that its acid gets blown away by Temari right back at Tsunade. Furthermore, if Tsunade or Sakura do summon the slug, its huge shadow will give Shikamaru the ability to capture Tsunade and slow her down occasionally.

I'm going to have to say team 2 low difficulty.

I proved why the Byakugou is the perfect counter for the gentle fist. Neji or the other random Hyuugas aren't dealing with Tsunade.
I agree with everything else tho.
 

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I proved why the Byakugou is the perfect counter for the gentle fist. Neji or the other random Hyuugas aren't dealing with Tsunade.
I agree with everything else tho.

Chakra points blocked= no byaku

She can not generate chakra hence why it work work, he's not damaging her chakra network just blocking it so you cant heal something thats not broken. no and ifs or buts
 

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Chakra points blocked= no byaku

She can not generate chakra hence why it work work, he's not damaging her chakra network just blocking it so you cant heal something thats not broken. no and ifs or buts

1. ? Because Neji can block her chakra points with one attack. Tsunade isn't fool, she would activate the Byakugou before its too late.
2. It is still physical damage, isn't it? So the Byakugou is a perfect counter.
 

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1. ? Because Neji can block her chakra points with one attack. Tsunade isn't fool, she would activate the Byakugou before its too late.
2. It is still physical damage, isn't it? So the Byakugou is a perfect counter.

So supplying yourself with more chakra stops the juuken effect?? nothing changes all byaku does is supply more chakra, more chakra will be getting blocked

Not really since its blocking chakra points no damage is being taken. Byaku isn't doing anything
 

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this is overkill.

The only real threat to her on team 2 is sakura and temrai. The rest would be made short order in that open field location.

tsunade would lose to these 5 high diff still. If she even does lose lol in that kinda area i would be surprised if her in byakugou mode couldn't tear them apart.
 

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this is overkill.

The only real threat to her on team 2 is sakura and temrai. The rest would be made short order in that open field location.

tsunade would lose to these 5 high diff still. If she even does lose lol in that kinda area i would be surprised if her in byakugou mode couldn't tear them apart.

Shikamaru and neji is all it takes
 

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Shikamaru and neji is all it takes

You are crazy if you think that is true.

Shikamaru in that open area has like how many tricks? She would tear him another *******.

She would take down chouji neg diff as well.

Should i even mention shino, and kiba?

Sakura, temari and neji would carry that fight.

Neji approaching Tsunade to use gentle fist... hmmm Not to mention Tsunade has monster strength without CES, she has some measure of strength that was inherited through her lineage.

If neji comes and doesn't get crushed trying to approach her in the first place. She would still be able to fight. Since she is taijutsu based anyhow.

Leaving Temari and Sakura one who has range and the other who can do pretty much what Tsunade can.

So high diff at least.
 
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You are crazy if you think that is true.

Shikamaru in that open area has like how many tricks? She would tear him another *******.

She would take down chouji neg diff as well.

Should i even mention shino, and kiba?

Sakura, temari and neji would carry that fight.

Neji approaching Tsunade to use gentle fist... hmmm Not to mention Tsunade has monster strength without CES, she has some measure of strength that was inherited through her lineage.

If neji comes and doesn't get crushed trying to approach her in the first place. She would still be able to fight. Since she is taijutsu based anyhow.

Leaving Temari and Sakura one who has range and the other who can do pretty much what Tsunade can.

So high diff at least.

And get close to him how?? you said it yourself the open field has a massive effect on the outcome. Tsunade has to evade shadows while taking on neji which i should remind you can block her chakra points. If she has any chance to break out of it she would ultimately be in the shadow possession by this time. Adding shino actually makes it worst and all though it sounds like the worst troll ever think about it. f she uses byaku and shino is sapping away her chakra as she is being restrain or not, her ability to fight becomes reduced. Kibas just the assistance tbh. Chouji is a non factor i agree in giant butterfly mode he may have a use but i don't know what use that is.

How is she touching neji?? If she gets 64 palmed or air palmed she cant do much about it now can she? if she tries any thing like OP destructive moves rotation repels.
 

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And get close to him how?? you said it yourself the open field has a massive effect on the outcome. Tsunade has to evade shadows while taking on neji which i should remind you can block her chakra points. If she has any chance to break out of it she would ultimately be in the shadow possession by this time. Adding shino actually makes it worst and all though it sounds like the worst troll ever think about it. f she uses byaku and shino is sapping away her chakra as she is being restrain or not, her ability to fight becomes reduced. Kibas just the assistance tbh. Chouji is a non factor i agree in giant butterfly mode he may have a use but i don't know what use that is.

How is she touching neji?? If she gets 64 palmed or air palmed she cant do much about it now can she? if she tries any thing like OP destructive moves rotation repels.

I already addressed that she still has monster strength without chakra. As stated in the manga.

If she is in byakugou mode which lasts for hours i doubt shino could suck her dry before she did anything about it. Neji and shika combo is not that hard tbh.

Tsunade can easily break up team work if she feels pressured IMO. Altering the terrain in a second (assuming her chakra points have not been severed yet) Would most likely break up the shika neji combo (for a bit)and she can rush and take out either of them.

I'm pretty confident that Tsunade would by instinct alter the terrain knowing a hyuga is closing in on her and shika is trying to get her. That itself would mess up majority of the battlefield. Great distraction.

so that's two of them. At the beginning of the fight if they start off with neji shika combo.

Then as you said kiba and choiju are gone.

5 down.

Sakura and temari. Well Sakura cannot use byakugou as of yet so idk but im sure temari can keep her at bay.

Take that as it may if u switch the circumstances im pretty sure she still takes 4 at least.

Afterall vs threads are all about scenario people can say what they feel would happen. Since none of us know what actually would.

Ill be back later so if i dont reply for a while just know i had to leave. Waiting for a ride.
 
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Team TWO wins low difficulty if Shikamaru stops her with Shadow Paralysis Jutsu.
Neji blows her head/face with Gentle Fist.
Sakura stomps on her with full force
then Choji lands the Ultimate Butterfly Mode Punch on her.
Then Temari cuts her body with the powerful wind jutsu she's capable of.
And in the end, Kiba himself finishes off with only Dynamic Marking. XD

All this happens if they stops her before she releases her forehead mark ;)
 

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I already addressed that she still has monster strength without chakra. As stated in the manga.

If she is in byakugou mode which lasts for hours i doubt shino could suck her dry before she did anything about it. Neji and shika combo is not that hard tbh.

Tsunade can easily break up team work if she feels pressured IMO. Altering the terrain in a second (assuming her chakra points have not been severed yet) Would most likely break up the shika neji combo (for a bit)and she can rush and take out either of them.

I'm pretty confident that Tsunade would by instinct alter the terrain knowing a hyuga is closing in on her and shika is trying to get her. That itself would mess up majority of the battlefield. Great distraction.

so that's two of them. At the beginning of the fight if they start off with neji shika combo.

Then as you said kiba and choiju are gone.

5 down.

Sakura and temari. Well Sakura cannot use byakugou as of yet so idk but im sure temari can keep her at bay.

Take that as it may if u switch the circumstances im pretty sure she still takes 4 at least.

Afterall vs threads are all about scenario people can say what they feel would happen. Since none of us know what actually would.

Ill be back later so if i dont reply for a while just know i had to leave. Waiting for a ride.

Soooooooo?? i never said she didnt.

Your missing the point, She would be supplying Shino and the others with more chakra since the bugs are constantly sapping her chakra AS she is using it. How is it not that hard?? explain.

Ill tell you why the damaged terrain idea wont work regardless, because Knowing that the terrain is destroyed and that both Neji and Shikamaru are geniuses they will pick up on her strategy and will find a tactic to slow her down or detain her long enough for the rest to come. This is easier for Neji than Shkia.

So why would she distract them??? getting space form Neji would mean that she fears the juuken which she should, she would be prolonging the inevitable if she done this.

You seem to forget that with shadow posession he can control allies and foes alike. This skill comes in handy for evasion and restricting the foe.

All you said is that she stalls, in your scenario she hasn't taken out anyone yet. i respect your scenarios but elaborate and look at both sides.
 

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So supplying yourself with more chakra stops the juuken effect?? nothing changes all byaku does is supply more chakra, more chakra will be getting blocked

Not really since its blocking chakra points no damage is being taken. Byaku isn't doing anything

1. If her chakra points aren't blocked the Byakugou would heal her.
2. Not a damage? Wtf? So if its not a damage then Tsunade's chakra points aren't blocked I guess.

Not to mention Neji has to touch her first. Neji never fought a strong opponent like Tsunade. His strongest enemy was a chuunin level guy.
 

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1. If her chakra points aren't blocked the Byakugou would heal her.
2. Not a damage? Wtf? So if its not a damage then Tsunade's chakra points aren't blocked I guess.

Not to mention Neji has to touch her first. Neji never fought a strong opponent like Tsunade. His strongest enemy was a chuunin level guy.
What makes you think that Neji, whose speed is considered greater than Tsunade's in the Databook, wouldn't be able to land a successful (and possibly fatal) blow at her while being backed up by handful other combatants, when Kabuto alone managed to catch her off guard and hit her several times despite of lower Taijutsu and speed? While it's true that Tsunade is a strong opponent to handle, Neji would be backed up by several other individuals. Choji alone, who can grow himself to the size of the Mazo and has a Bijuucloak is dangerous.
 

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1. If her chakra points aren't blocked the Byakugou would heal her.
2. Not a damage? Wtf? So if its not a damage then Tsunade's chakra points aren't blocked I guess.

Not to mention Neji has to touch her first. Neji never fought a strong opponent like Tsunade. His strongest enemy was a chuunin level guy.

And when they do get blocked she cant heal, simple logic
your stopping her from using chakra hows that hurting her?? your logic is somewhat very twisted
LOOOL i dont think you know hwo fast neji is and going by your beloved databook hes faster. e has even demonstrated superior speed via 64 palms. Juuken users have to be fast and efficient
 

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Soooooooo?? i never said she didnt.

Your missing the point, She would be supplying Shino and the others with more chakra since the bugs are constantly sapping her chakra AS she is using it. How is it not that hard?? explain.

Ill tell you why the damaged terrain idea wont work regardless, because Knowing that the terrain is destroyed and that both Neji and Shikamaru are geniuses they will pick up on her strategy and will find a tactic to slow her down or detain her long enough for the rest to come. This is easier for Neji than Shkia.

So why would she distract them??? getting space form Neji would mean that she fears the juuken which she should, she would be prolonging the inevitable if she done this.

You seem to forget that with shadow posession he can control allies and foes alike. This skill comes in handy for evasion and restricting the foe.


All you said is that she stalls, in your scenario she hasn't taken out anyone yet. i respect your scenarios but elaborate and look at both sides.

If you aren't saying she doesnt have monster strength without chakra. Then your neji point is only relevant when it comes to healing. She hardly needs it. Besides my scenario is she starts in byakugou mode and is using it.

Shino gets the chakra his bugs suck from the opponent? Clarify that for me. That would only give himself chakra if u can clarify that not the others. And he would have to have her swarmed in bugs before he could recieve any significant chakra.

Chakra scapel takes care of any swarming bugs.

Tsunade is not exactly stupid. Shes a woman who has been through two shinobi world wars. Besides they would have to survive the first tactic before coming up with something. As they would attempt to attack her and she does it. While they are thrown off she can hit neji/shikamaru with BPD and finish them off or just take either out with her strength should be easy especially when debris is flying everywhere and they are paying attention to more than one thing.

She can do whatever she wants. Distracting them as i said above would break up their team work and she could take out one or both of them.

I'd love to see shika controlling neji while worrying about staying alert in a series of exploding earth and rocks flying about.

Even if he does while this is happening. He's still open.

So far, shikamaru is dead.


So Leaves the rest against her. Chouji will most likely expand and try to take her on in that way, he would lose, if kiba combos with him he would also lose.

She can kill shino as i said he would be limited with the amount of bugs he could use on her esp in the open it will be easier for her to get him.

Neji vs Tsunade would be tricky but he would still get beaten if he tries to cut her chakra points off, he would think she was done with and she could catch him by surprise with her natural strength.

^even if you may not want to consider that.

By my scenario she takes 4/7. High diff there.

Temari can't really help when all her other teammates besides Shino are short ranged fighters. I don't know why she is there. So really she only comes into considerable action after her teammates attempted to take tsunade close range get stomped.
 
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