[VS] Tsunade vs kakuzu

[ItachiStyle]

Tsunade can heal from wounds lots of times, not just once... mortal or otherwise... again, stuff is just getting invented by the pro-Kakuzu side.

 

[robihurstferenc]

The question remains: Can she use Creation Rebirth 10 or more times in a row to heal huge amounts of cells that have been cut off/seared off/blasted off? And will she have any chakra left after all the healing to actually seal the deal and defeat kakuzu?

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

The question remains: Can she use Creation Rebirth 10 or more times in a row to heal huge amounts of cells that have been cut off/seared off/blasted off? And will she have any chakra left after all the healing to actually seal the deal and defeat kakuzu?

See my previous posts. Btw, why Creation Rebirth? Why not Byakugou?

 

[robihurstferenc]

Oh, right, i got the two confused. I meant byakugou. But the same applies, i'm not sure that she can sustain even Bykugou for as long as she needs to to win the fight.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Oh, right, i got the two confused. I meant byakugou. But the same applies, i'm not sure that she can sustain even Bykugou for as long as she needs to to win the fight.

Against Madara she was able to sustain like 4/ 5 hours. And she healed the Kages and replenished their chakras too.

 

[robihurstferenc]

Wow, I guess I never truly grasped how OP she is. I personally blame Kishi (with all due respect). He gave Kakashi basically unlimited chakra during the war, and then he gave Kakashi a 3 in stamina in the Databook, so I am not surprised that he gave it to Tsunade too, who got a 4 in stamina. Meanwhile Kakuzu got a 4.5 in stamina in the Databook, but I am willing to pass this up as superficial evidence, as i do not believe that the numbers tell the whole story. If I were to go with the general trends of the plot-line, and not use specific events to explain a character's overall ability, I would still tip Kakuzu to edge this one, but if we are judging by specific feats, and generalizing them to the characters ability, I would say that they both run out of chakra and it is a tie. Remember, these are opinions based on how I interpret the facts, not facts themselves.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

She can't tank it without recovering ALOT of damage from Kakuzu's. She is bound to fall



I agree of Kakuzu winning but damn lol, Chatte is right about the underrating.

It's not ABC logic.I'm pretty sure a lot of characters can dodge Kakuzu's hearts attack without the sharingan.They're not that fast.
Even if she gets damaged,she could recover successfully,so I disagree,she can tank.Just look how many times she got hit by Madara.I can't see Kakuzu winning.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

It's not ABC logic.I'm pretty sure a lot of characters can dodge Kakuzu's hearts attack without the sharingan.They're not that fast.
Even if she gets damaged,she could recover successfully,so I disagree,she can tank.Just look how many times she got hit by Madara.I can't see Kakuzu winning.

This is ABC logic, and heres why:

Put Tsunade in Kakashi's shoes in the scenario you claim she can dodge the same way Kakashi did:

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I am aware that Sharigan is not the only way to dodge it but they're other ways to do it. For example, Raikage's body flicker. So the question is, by what feat can she just "dodge" the attack.

How many times did Madara HIT her with jutsus that could disintegrate the body?

 

[Wik]

This is ABC logic, and heres why:

Put Tsunade in Kakashi's shoes in the scenario you claim she can dodge the same way Kakashi did:

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I am aware that Sharigan is not the only way to dodge it but they're other ways to do it. For example, Raikage's body flicker. So the question is, by what feat can she just "dodge" the attack.

How many times did Madara HIT her with jutsus that could disintegrate the body?

Tsunade herself stated that the most important skill for a mednin is to be able to dodge. You don't think she follows her own advice? I am not saying this weights up for a sharingan. But sharingan isn't THAT useful in a fight against many foes (It can only see one opponent at once.) in that case the byakugan is more useful. Also remember this, if Kakashi is hit= GG. Tsunade can be hit over and over and over and it still wont matter until her chakra runs out. These attacks are mere gennin stuff in comparison to Madara as well. She was pretty damn resilient facing him.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Never take the numbers in the databook seriously. They are frequently inaccurate... my favourite error is Itachi's genjutsu score- a 5... the exact same as Oro... who he can one shot with Genjutsu... huh?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tsunade herself stated that the most important skill for a mednin is to be able to dodge. You don't think she follows her own advice? I am not saying this weights up for a sharingan. But sharingan isn't THAT useful in a fight against many foes (It can only see one opponent at once.) in that case the byakugan is more useful. Also remember this, if Kakashi is hit= GG. Tsunade can be hit over and over and over and it still wont matter until her chakra runs out. These attacks are mere gennin stuff in comparison to Madara as well. She was pretty damn resilient facing him.

Show me scans that she tanked that would benefit your argument. I want to see why those attacks look like gennin stuff to her.

Never take the numbers in the databook seriously. They are frequently inaccurate... my favourite error is Itachi's genjutsu score- a 5... the exact same as Oro... who he can one shot with Genjutsu... huh?

That's because they both have different jutsu. Oro mastered his personal Genjutsu while Itachi did too. It wasn't meant to be looked at that they are in the same level. Unlike Speed, Strength, and Stamina. Those categories is can be looked at when comparing characters.

 

[ItachiStyle]

If the numbers aren't a consistent metric for worth, then you shouldn't invoke them (ever).

 

[Brother Numpsay]

If the numbers aren't a consistent metric for worth, then you shouldn't invoke them (ever).

Then you should use the same argument for Ninjutsu. Hidan has a 5 when he only has one justu. Ninjutsu and Genjutsu just shows their skill and mastery personally. We can't argue that "Oh How did Hidan get 5 when Itachi's Ninjustu is >>>>>>".

At the end of the day, our opinion<Kishi

 

[ItachiStyle]

Kishi didn't write the databooks, and even if he had it's clear the numbers he put didn't make any sense, and thus shouldn't be used as a point of comparison.

 

[Edo Odin]

Kishi didn't write the databooks, and even if he had it's clear the numbers he put didn't make any sense, and thus shouldn't be used as a point of comparison.

lmao, Kishi wrote them.

But I do agree with the rest, it clearly doesn't make sense, our opinion>Kishi

That was sarcasm btw.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Even if Kishi did write it (he didn't), if Kishi writes 2 things that contradict each other, we go with the one that has the better and more consistent evidence. The numbers in the book have been wholly discredited as arbitrary and meaningless.

 

[Unorthodox]

kakuzu wins this

 

[RicardoA]

Tsunade high diff.

 

[Edo Odin]

Even if Kishi did write it (he didn't), if Kishi writes 2 things that contradict each other, we go with the one that has the better and more consistent evidence. The numbers in the book have been wholly discredited as arbitrary and meaningless.

So, in conclusion, you consider your opinion to outrule Kishi's since you don't feel that his statements make sense ?

 

[Jobrjo]

Kakazu would swamp Tsuande. His fighting style puts him at an advantage vs Tsunade's.