News for you, Hidan's body is not remotely near in durability to Susanno.
So something much worse thing than this would happen to Hidan if he decide to take your advice, and try to tank a punch from Tsunade...
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And still you dare stating Hidan cannot be crushed by her and claim i am the one who doesn't read...
1. Wait, hope you don't think Atsugai > Tsunade's strength.
2. Do you see the Yin seal on her forehead? No. This means she hit Orochimaru only with her base power.
1. Wait, hope you don't think Atsugai > Tsunade's strength.
2. Do you see the Yin seal on her forehead? No. This means she hit Orochimaru only with her base power.
1.Lol, what why are you comparing a fist to a hurricane. Kakuzu jutsu has carries a single shot of pressure that enable him to destroy dwarfing trees. If Kakashi hadn't dodged it, a character with normal body, he would of been crushed by the pressure or annihilated. The point still stands that Hidan cannot be crush physically. Nothing happens to him internally, fact. Stabing, piercing, crushing, blowing up are all useless unless intended to use for separation, which Shikimaru did.
2. So what if she used her Yin seal already, that does not prove she ran out of chakra. Moot point. Argument still stands.
1.Lol, what why are you comparing a fist to a hurricane. Kakuzu jutsu has carries a single shot of pressure that enable him to destroy dwarfing trees. If Kakashi hadn't dodged it, a character with normal body, he would of been crushed by the pressure or annihilated. The point still stands that Hidan cannot be crush physically. Nothing happens to him internally, fact. Stabing, piercing, crushing, blowing up are all useless unless intended to use for separation, which Shikimaru did.
2. So what if she used her Yin seal already, that does not prove she ran out of chakra. Moot point. Argument still stands.
1.Lol, what why are you comparing a fist to a hurricane. Kakuzu jutsu has carries a single shot of pressure that enable him to destroy dwarfing trees. If Kakashi hadn't dodged it, a character with normal body, he would of been crushed by the pressure or annihilated. The point still stands that Hidan cannot be crush physically. Nothing happens to him internally, fact. Stabing, piercing, crushing, blowing up are all useless unless intended to use for separation, which Shikimaru did.
2. So what if she used her Yin seal already, that does not prove she ran out of chakra. Moot point. Argument still stands.
It's not any regular fist, her fist managed to crack Susanno. Having this level of power in her arms she would be able to mutilate him with her bare hands.
That Hurricane was a big strong blow of wind, it doesn't cut like other Futon, what did you expect to happen??
If Hidan cannot be crushed fiscally, the explosions wouldn't tear him apart, and neither his own weapon..
It kind of does mean she ran out of chakra when the seal disappears:
1.Cracking Sussanoo doesn't make you smash open an immortal body
2.Crush his bones and body?
3.Explosive didn't tear him apart. I already post 2 scans proving this. What made Shikimaru success was using metal wire strings, tightly griping his body. That, with enough explosion can pressurized the body for the wires to decapitate him.
4.Not in the scenario that I post a scan of.
1.Cracking Sussanoo doesn't make you smash open an immortal body
2.Crush his bones and body?
3.Explosive didn't tear him apart. I already post 2 scans proving this. What made Shikimaru success was using metal wire strings, tightly griping his body. That, with enough explosion can pressurized the body for the wires to decapitate him.
4.Not in the scenario that I post a scan of.
1.Didn't say anything like that. I said comparing Tsunade fist damage does not work here via ABC logic. Orochimaru and Sussanoo. I cannot make that ABC logic that Orochimaru's jaw> Sussanoo because she crack/ ripped off Sussano armor. As much as you saying Hidan<Tsuande because she cracked Susanoo. Having me in your sig right next to Kuripika is not an insult
2.Wrong and not worth the reply for this point. Your simply downplaying the jutsu just to invalidate Hidan's immortality feats.
3.Wooh there, how does this reply have to do with anything I mention..
4. Whatever chakra explain does not matter to the scnerio I post. Tsuande still had chakra to lift up Bunta's weapon and punch Orochimaru in the face. At the end of the day Orochimaru didn't break due to his body-type.
1.Didn't say anything like that. I said comparing Tsunade fist damage does not work here via ABC logic. Orochimaru and Sussanoo. I cannot make that ABC logic that Orochimaru's jaw> Sussanoo because she crack/ ripped off Sussano armor. As much as you saying Hidan<Tsuande because she cracked Susanoo. Having me in your sig right next to Kuripika is not an insult
2.Wrong and not worth the reply for this point. Your simply downplaying the jutsu just to invalidate Hidan's immortality feats.
3.Wooh there, how does this reply have to do with anything I mention..
4. Whatever chakra explain does not matter to the scnerio I post. Tsuande still had chakra to lift up Bunta's weapon and punch Orochimaru in the face. At the end of the day Orochimaru didn't break due to his body-type.
Wrong, i never said Tsuande defeats Hidan only because of her strength, and fists, and that the combination of both can mutilate him easily. She also has Byakugou, and Creation Rebirth to heal all the injuries the Jashin ritual may leave, in case he gets some of her blood.
Ok, you didn't get Tsunade's jutsu, the Yin Seal is basically chakra stored in a seal, that the user can use at pleasure.
While she has it on his forehead her reserve of chakra from the seal still works, and she can use it for whatever she wants, like putting more chakra into her fists, making them more deadly.
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In this scan, Tsunade has released all the seal's chakra, so there was no more reserve. She used Creation Rebirth, summoned Katsuyu, carryed Gamabunta's sword, and punched Orochimaru. And the seal that was missing the entire time formed in her forehead after the battle ended. In that punch she used all her remaining chakra, that's why she turn old, there was no more chakra left to keep her young, and why she said what she said to Naruto before Madara's fight:
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Part 2 Tsunade, apparently has more chakra reserves, since she used Creation Rebirth and Byakugou while fighting Madara.
Then why Kakashi survived it? Did they explain that? Some of his clothes were reaped off, so i am guessing he tanked part of the jutsu.
He is inmortal, i never deny that, but he is not invulnerable, see?
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Go try and throw a shuriken to Madara's Susanno.
Because you spoke like Hidan only got decapitated by Shikamaru's trap. And how it isn't clear if the wires were the responsible of the damage to his body. I always guessed that the explosions tear him apart.
Read point 1.
Ok, i am starting to get tired here, if you don't understand how a material that can be cut, can be crushed as well using the necessary amount of strength, you should study physics more.
Cause Hidan may be immortal, but he is not invulnerable, and he doesn't have feats that makes his body any more durable (or injury-poof) than a regular shinobi.
If i am wrong, be my guest and prove it...
PD: I would never quote in my sig someone whose opinion i don't share, I was only trying to warn you from some Madara's fan or whatever...
What does this mean to you?
Wrong, i never said Tsuande defeats Hidan only because of her strength, and fists, and that the combination of both can mutilate him easily. She also has Byakugou, and Creation Rebirth to heal all the injuries the Jashin ritual may leave, in case he gets some of her blood.
Ok, you didn't get Tsunade's jutsu, the Yin Seal is basically chakra stored in a seal, that the user can use at pleasure.
While she has it on his forehead her reserve of chakra from the seal still works, and she can use it for whatever she wants, like putting more chakra into her fists, making them more deadly.
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In this scan, Tsunade has released all the seal's chakra, so there was no more reserve. She used Creation Rebirth, summoned Katsuyu, carryed Gamabunta's sword, and punched Orochimaru. And the seal that was missing the entire time formed in her forehead after the battle ended. In that punch she used all her remaining chakra, that's why she turn old, there was no more chakra left to keep her young, and why she said what she said to Naruto before Madara's fight:
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Part 2 Tsunade, apparently has more chakra reserves, since she used Creation Rebirth and Byakugou while fighting Madara.
Then why Kakashi survived it? Did they explain that? Thogh, some his clothes were reaped off, so i am guessing he tanked part of the jutsu, or at least some of it.
He is inmortal, i never deny that, but he is not invulnerable, see?
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Go try and throw a shuriken to Madara's Susanno.
Because you spoke like Hidan only got decapitated by Shikamaru's trap.
Read point 1.
Ok, i am starting to get tired here, if you don't understand how a material that can be cut, can be crushed as well using the necessary amount of strength, you should study physics more.
Cause Hidan may be immortal, but he is not invulnerable, and he doesn't have feats that makes his body any more durable (or injury-poof) than a regular shinobi.
If i am wrong, be my guest and prove it...
1. I never said you didn't I was merely arguing the claim of Tsunade's fist able to break Hidan apart. I'm am frankly tired of his match up use countless of times. If Tsunade gets curse its over. She cannot heal properly if Hidan leaves a stake inside his heart. Tsunade always pull of Madara's sword in order for her to heal properly. And even that kind of damage catches up on her[
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1.a) What was the point of breaking down her reserves. That didn't disprove that she use her chakra to punch Oro in the face. In the end raw strength or chakra enhance, he took the damage and decided to retreat. What happen to him is what I am implying to what the attack would do to Hidan's body.
2.They explain what happen to Kakashi. Sharingan read through the attack and he dodged it [
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2a. I have been implying that cutting damage is Hidan's Kryptonite this whole time. Crushing and Physical damage like Kakuzu's wind jutsu and explosive jutsus don't work.
3. I'm pretty sure I didn't. I can show all the scans were Hidan was separated from his body and all of it applied cutting.
4. Same
Physics doesn't apply to someone who breaks the laws of nature, when it comes to his body. You can't talk with your head separated. He shouldn't be able to move when he stab his femur. Shikimaru shadow stitches should of destroyed his internal organ, thus unable to move.
1. I never said you didn't I was merely arguing the claim of Tsunade's fist able to break Hidan apart. I'm am frankly tired of his match up use countless of times. If Tsunade gets curse its over. She cannot heal properly if Hidan leaves a stake inside his heart. Tsunade always pull of Madara's sword in order for her to heal properly. And even that kind of damage catches up on her[
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1.a) What was the point of breaking down her reserves. That didn't disprove that she use her chakra to punch Oro in the face. In the end raw strength or chakra enhance, he took the damage and decided to retreat. What happen to him is what I am implying to what the attack would do to Hidan's body.
2.They explain what happen to Kakashi. Sharingan read through the attack and he dodged it [
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2a. I have been implying that cutting damage is Hidan's Kryptonite this whole time. Crushing and Physical damage like Kakuzu's wind jutsu and explosive jutsus don't work.
3. I'm pretty sure I didn't. I can show all the scans were Hidan was separated from his body and all of it applied cutting.
4. Same
Physics doesn't apply to someone who breaks the laws of nature, when it comes to his body. You can't talk with your head separated. He shouldn't be able to move when he stab his femur. Shikimaru shadow stitches should of destroyed his internal organ, thus unable to move.
1)She might not heal properly with stakes in her heart, but she can keep fighting, you showed the scans, it's there, with her vital organs being pierced she still could fight.
You don't understand, with or without intel Tsunade takes this, look at this:
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All this torture and the lady was able to Release her seal and heal. So stabbing her heart it's not changing this match result, all she has to do i use Byakugou and keep fighting...
Oh god, not again... Tsuande punched Orochimaru with all her chakra left, and she didn't have much, that's the reason the punch didn't make the same impact done against Madara's Susanno. I cannot explain this again.
2) You don't understand, it's like you are trolling me. Is just the same thing!
You don't realize crushing is the same thing as cutting on a broader scale.
So if you hit stronger enough you will mutilate the target:
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Although, this was just a clone, i am just showin how strength can "cut" someone.
Said that, let me remind you Edo-Madara had his human durability, remember how Edo-Third Raikage had his impressive durability he had while he was alive.
And this is Edo-Madara true Edo-body, and was pierced by Lee at full speed:
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Another example is how Bee's Lariat injured Sasuke's body:
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3 and 4 are irrelevant now...
Physics doesn't apply to someone who breaks the laws of nature, when it comes to his body. You can't talk with your head separated. He shouldn't be able to move when he stab his femur. Shikimaru shadow stitches should of destroyed his internal organ, thus unable to move.
"Breaks the law of nature", you keep repeating this, and i have to say you have no proof that this rule-breaking involve more than just immortality. It was never stated in the manga that he cannot be crushed but only cut.
I know all the facts that made him immortal, but it wan't stated anywhere that he cannot be mutilated with Chakra Enhanced Stregth, if you can't understand how punches would do it, forget about it, and think in Tsunade mutilating him piece by piece, by pulling his limbs off. That works for you?
By the way, I am no discussing any further with you until you can prove, with manga facts he cannot be crushed.
There is nothing about rules of nature in the manga, or the fact that he cannot be teared apart by applying brute force, and you keep repeating it like it's legit.
I proved everything with manga scans, i demand you do the same.
The slug should be restricted for more of a fair fight; but even then Hidan is still slightly outclassed. Tsunade wins medium difficulty without the aid of Katsuyu.
1)She might not heal properly with stakes in her heart, but she can keep fighting, you showed the scans, it's there, with her vital organs being pierced she still could fight.
You don't understand, with or without intel Tsunade takes this, look at this:
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All this torture and the lady was able to Release her seal and heal. So stabbing her heart it's not changing this match result, all she has to do i use Byakugou and keep fighting...
Oh god, not again... Tsuande punched Orochimaru with all her chakra left, and she didn't have much, that's the reason the punch didn't make the same impact done against Madara's Susanno. I cannot explain this again.
2) You don't understand, it's like you are trolling me. Is just the same thing!
You don't realize crushing is the same thing as cutting on a broader scale.
So if you hit stronger enough you will mutilate the target:
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Although, this was just a clone, i am just showin how strength can "cut" someone.
Said that, let me remind you Edo-Madara had his human durability, remember how Edo-Third Raikage had his impressive durability he had while he was alive.
And this is Edo-Madara true Edo-body, and was pierced by Lee at full speed:
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3 and 4 are irrelevant now...
"Breaks the law of nature", you keep repeating this, and i have to say you have no proof that this rule-breaking involve more than just immortality. It was never stated in the manga that he cannot be crushed but only cut.
I know all the facts that made him immortal, but it wan't stated anywhere that he cannot be mutilated with Chakra Enhanced Stregth, if you can't understand how punches would do it, forget about it, and think in Tsunade mutilating him piece by piece, by pulling his limbs off. That works for you?
By the way, I am no discussing any further with you until you can prove, with manga facts he cannot be crushed.
There is nothing about rules of nature in the manga, or the fact that he cannot be teared apart by applying brute force, and you keep repeating it like it's legit.
I proved everything with manga scans, i demand you do the same.
1. If your bringing Orochimaru stabs as an example, there you can see it was only nearly her heart that was stabbed not her actual heart. But reguarless yes, I think she can heal from it even if it did. But for her to properly heal her heart from actual being stab is to remove the stake. Since the curse leaves the stake there, she can't pull it out, thus leaving a hole in her heart. She is not fighting with a hole in her heart thats constantly trying to regenerate back, to properly pump her blood. Thus ends it[
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Proof that she didn't have much chaka. She she punch Oro right after picking up Bunta's weapon. At the end of the day or in your context, that "last" of her chakra didn't smash Oro's jaw. If you imply if she had full chakra doing the same hit, your going to need proof that it will blow up Oro's head.
2. Applying that crushing and cutting is merely trolling me behind your frustration. Indeed that they keep their durability, but your comparisons do not work here. Since Hidan does not have Madara's durability. Add Madara in Hidan's situation to what he has taken. Meaning how will Madara body deal with explosions and how will he deal with Kakuzu's Wind Release.
I can also post Sakura, stronger punch, knocking out a Juubi Minion: So you see its body mutilate?[
Tsunade mid-high diff. She can render Hidan practically useless with a Body Pathway technique. Hidan doesn't seem like the type to figure it out quickly.
