Tsunade vs Hiashi

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Distance: 40m
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Intel is full. Who wins?
 

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Tsunade takes this

-Katsuyu's acid
- yin seal's added reaction speed & strength makes this overkill
 
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Distance favors Hiashi here, so I'll go with him.

Tsunade is stronger though.
 

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Could go either way, but I'm thinking Tsunade takes this with her summons
 

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yin seal doesn't add any speed, strength or reflexive capablities.
It simply heals wounds
 

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yin seal doesn't add any speed, strength or reflexive capablities.
It simply heals wounds

Releasing the Yin Seal indirectly increases speed and strength. Agreed on the reflex part, nothing has indicated reflexes are increased.
 

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Releasing the Yin Seal indirectly increases speed and strength. Agreed on the reflex part, nothing has.

no, it doesn't, its just an increase in available chakra that can be used - stamina.
it doesn't make the user more durable either

this is not Bleach or DBZ
 

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no, it doesn't, its just an increase in available chakra that can be used - stamina.
it doesn't make the user more durable either

this is not Bleach or DBZ

i agree with this.
 

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no, it doesn't, its just an increase in available chakra that can be used - stamina.
it doesn't make the user more durable either

this is not Bleach or DBZ

Right, as I have stated it indirectly increases both.

Larger chakra supplied shunshin = faster movement.
Larger chakra supplied CES = stronger attacks (or will you just completely ignore chapter 632?).


Of course it doesn't alter base stats, but a greater flow of chakra makes almost everything more efficient. Don't know why durability came into play here, never argued it.
 
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Tsunade wins with katsuyu tbh considering it tanks Air palm wall
Right, as I have stated it indirectly increases both.

Larger chakra supplied shunshin = faster movement.
Larger chakra supplied CES = stronger attacks.


Of course it doesn't alter base states, but a greater flow of chakra makes almost everything more efficient. Don't know why durability came into play here, never argued it.

An advice that guy is Just what you call boderline of ####
He thinks anyone can kill kaguya with sword
 

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Tsunade wins with katsuyu tbh considering it tanks Air palm wall

An advice that guy is Just what you call boderline of ####
He thinks anyone can kill kaguya with sword

Not sure if I even want to continue my argument, he has already ignored the manga explicitly disproving what he has said.
 

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Right, as I have stated it indirectly increases both.

Larger chakra supplied shunshin = faster movement.
Larger chakra supplied CES = stronger attacks (or will you just completely ignore chapter 632?).


Of course it doesn't alter base stats, but a greater flow of chakra makes almost everything more efficient. Don't know why durability came into play here, never argued it.

It wouldn't change the maximum about of chakra she could use with CES, just the size of the pool she has to draw from.
 

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It wouldn't change the maximum about of chakra she could use with CES, just the size of the pool she has to draw from.

Databook states it increases ones own power
 

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Databook states it increases ones own power

You gonna post the DB or should I just take your word for it?

Either way i don't see how it would make your attacks any stronger, all it is is chakra.
 

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It wouldn't change the maximum about of chakra she could use with CES, just the size of the pool she has to draw from.

What maximum? There is no minimum or maximum. The more chakra you enhance your fist with, the stronger you will punch. I don't know what you're getting at here.

If her chakra is no longer being stored, then more of it can be attributed to CES, resulting in greater strength.
 
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What maximum? There is no minimum or maximum. The more chakra you enhance your fist with, the stronger you will punch. I don't know what you're getting at here.

If her chakra is no longer being stored, then more of it can be attributed to CES, resulting in greater strength.

So theoretically Tsunade could destroy the earth with enough chakra?
 
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