Tsunade: The Weakest

[China IL]

Good boy. u_u​

I'm not a "Good Boy", I just cam eto reasoning. Plus, it's a bit hard to debate when I have a screaming 2 yo in my ear >.>

 

[Edo Odin]

Yeah, his I'm..., I think that continues to ...out of chakra. It's implied with context clues and Tobirama's frustration.

If their chakra was so unlimited, Minato could have kept spamming, right? But he couldn't, he was out of chakra.

You don't seem to understand the properties of the Edo Tensei's chakra capabilities. They don't have 'Endless Chakra' in the sense of them being able to use it beyond what they were capable of doing in their lifetime [Ex: A planet sized Jinton would be impossible], they simply don't run out. Simply put, it's replenished. However, seeing as that is the case, it can still be absorbed, and the absorption will have it's effect on them. Having a person's chakra absorbed will always affect that person in one way or another, often coming forth in the victim being paralyzed, numb, or unable to perform Jutsu. Hence why Minato was having trouble using techniques while his techniques while the Shinju absorbed his chakra.

As for your assumption on what Minato's next statement would be, I shouldn't have to explain why that argument in beyond invalid.
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[Shura]

I'm not a "Good Boy", I just cam eto reasoning. Plus, it's a bit hard to debate when I have a screaming 2 yo in my ear >.>

Eh, I could debate you later on an official thread if you want. However, I'd like to use a character I usually don't debate for like Kisame or Gaara perhaps? It seems more interesting to me and since you think that Tsunade can beat them while I don't see it happening at all, perhaps we could debate it? And I'm bored anyways.​

 

[China IL]

You don't seem to understand the properties of the Edo Tensei's chakra capabilities. They don't have 'Endless Chakra' in the sense of them being able to use it beyond what they were capable of doing in their lifetime [Ex: A planet sized Jinton would be impossible], they simply don't run out. Simply put, it's replenished. However, seeing as that is the case, it can still be absorbed, and the absorption will have it's effect on them. Having a person's chakra absorbed will always affect that person in one way or another, often coming forth in the victim being paralyzed, numb, or unable to perform Jutsu. Hence why Minato was having trouble using techniques while his techniques while the Shinju absorbed his chakra.

As for your assumption on what Minato's next statement would be, I shouldn't have to explain why that argument in beyond invalid.
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I never said that their chakra reserve's were expended by any means. I also said that Oro's ET could lose chakra, and if Minato could lose chakra, the rest could also. I never said that their chakra could not be absorbed as well. That's proven false by Hashirama himself.

Minato was never even touched by a branche. He says it in both of our scans that transporting the alliance wiped out his chakra.

Are you having trouble with contect clues? It takes no more than that + Common Sense to see that Minato is useless atp. If he could do something, he would have. He wouldn't have just sat there and watched Tobirama and Hiruzen save Naruto.

You tell me what that I'm... would carry on to then?

 

[China IL]

Eh, I could debate you later on an official thread if you want. However, I'd like to use a character I usually don't debate for like Kisame or Gaara perhaps? It seems more interesting to me and since you think that Tsunade can beat them while I don't see it happening at all, perhaps we could debate it? And I'm bored anyways.​

Sure, but I don't debate with Tsunade. This was my first time evr debatign with her actually. I ususally debate with Gaara as well. Maybe Minato?

 

[Optimistic]

You clearly don't knew the begining of debating >.>

There's no beginning since the match up isn't even fair. deidara wins its not debatable.

 

[Shura]

Sure, but I don't debate with Tsunade. This was my first time evr debatign with her actually. I ususally debate with Gaara as well. Maybe Minato?

Minato? Eh, sure, but don't feel like debating stuff like Madara, Sasuke, Naruto vs BM Minato so lets debate something with weaker scale of power. So how about Kisame vs Base Minato?​

 

[China IL]

There's no beginning since the match up isn't even fair. deidara wins its not debatable.

Your back :/

Thats already been debated, I lost >.>

 

[China IL]

Minato? Eh, sure, but don't feel like debating stuff like Madara, Sasuke, Naruto vs BM Minato so lets debate something with weaker scale of power. So how about Kisame vs Base Minato?​

Whos making the thread?

 

[Optimistic]

Your back :/

Thats already been debated, I lost >.>

sorry i had stuff to do.

 

[China IL]

sorry i had stuff to do.

We could always debate another time.

 

[the last shinobi]

Tsunade should be in top10 , she isn't hokage from nothing ..

The only reason she is Hokage is because j-man turned that position down and recommended her

 

[Joshutsu]

She is overall a stronger ninja than many people above her. People just don't realise medical prowess is strength too, and she uses it offensively too. People in NB operate as if ninja she would go up against know anything about her 'cut her head off' 'cut off her limbs' that's all made up here.

This woman has war experience a plenty, new feats arise in different battles. the fact a medical ninja can be considered so highly speaks volumes in itself. IDK what it can take to just make people acknowledge her.

The only reason she is Hokage is because j-man turned that position down and recommended her

Yet their complaint when he did recommend her was that she had left the village. Why would they ever consider someone who was not around, and when they did they chose her. The decision on hokage is not based on someones word. The elder's actually know her and if they didn't see it fit to make her hokage they would not have.

 

[TheEvilOne]

The only reason she is Hokage is because j-man turned that position down and recommended her

Jiraiya himself admitted Tsunade would be a better Hokage.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nah. she's weak

Jiraiya himself admitted Tsunade would be a better Hokage.

Hey, you think that might of had something to do with him not wanting to be hokage?

 

[TheEvilOne]

Hey, you think that might of had something to do with him not wanting to be hokage?

It has nothing to do with it. He even brought up 3 reasons why she would be a better Hokage.

 

[paratise]

This is my list overall (sort of iffy in some places):

I would love to see positive critism, these are all my opinion btw i might forget some Ninja or list might not be overall correct (no one's is correct, they are all opinions)

I won't include featless characters like Sakumo, Sage's sons or Izuna, and count the seen alive prime levels of characters; but this would be my list along with tier lists:

God tier
0)Sage of 6 Paths
1)Obito (Juubi jinchuuriku)
2)Uchiha Madara (current)

Demi God-legend Tier
3)Senju Hashirama

High Legend tier
4)Uzumaki Naruto
5)Uchiha Sasuke
6)Uzumaki Nagato
7)Yakushi Kabuto

Legend tier
8)Namikaze Minato
9)Uchiha Itachi
10)Killer Bee

High kage tier
11)Hoshigaki Kisame
12)3rd raikage
13)Senju Tobirama
14)Muu
15)2nd Mizukage
16)Gaara
17)Jiraiya

Mid-high kage tier:
18)Hatake Kakashi
19)Hanzo
20)Onoki
21)Sasori
22)A
23)Sarutobi Hiruzen
24)Orochimaru
25)Shimura Danzo

mid-kage tier
26)Deidara
27)Maito Gai
28)Kakuzu
29)Terumi Mei
30)Senju Tsunade

Low-mid kage tier
31)4th kazekage

Low-kage tier
32)Zetsu (not spiral one)
33)Konan
34)Hyuuga Hiashi
35)Kitsuchi
36)Haruno Sakura
(list gets iffy after this, so the numbers are not in order):

High jounin tier -From 37 to 47-
Chiyo
Darui
Rock Lee
Kaguya Kimimaro
Hyuuga Neji
Hozuki Mangetsu
Hidan
Momochi Zabuza
Yamato
Temari
Akimichi Chouji

mid jounin tier-From 48 to 61-
Kurotsuchi
Pakura
Gari
Nara Shikaku
Yamanaka Inoichi
Akimichi Choza
Sarutobi Asuma
Kato Dan
Dodai
Aburame Shino
Baki
Sai
Juugo
Hozuki Suigetsu

Low jounin tier-From 62 to 73-
Yuki Haku
Yuuhi Kurenai
Torune
Fu
Nara Shikamaru
Akatsuchi
Cee
Inuzuka Kiba
Choujuro
Kidomaru
Sakon/Ukon
Shizune

High chuunin tier-from 74 to 78-
Anko
Gekko Hayate
Tayuya
Jirobou
Hyuuga Hinata

Mid-chuunin tier-from 79 to 82-
Karui
Omoi
Yamanaka Ino
Tenten

Low chuunin tier-from 83 to 86-
Dosu
Konohamaru
Iruka
Mizuki

Even if few charactes change, i don't see her at top 15-20.

 

[Made in Heaven]

It has nothing to do with it. He even brought up 3 reasons why she would be a better Hokage.

Better hokage doesn't mean stronger; Jiriaya lacks leadership and responsibility. But tsunade does; however, she is still weak.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Better hokage doesn't mean stronger; Jiriaya lacks leadership and responsibility. But tsunade does; however, she is still weak.

Well I guess you can have an opinion.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Well I guess you can have an opinion.

Well, I guess your opinion can be the wrong one.