Tsunade Sakura A 3rd Raikge Gai Rocklee vs Kakuzu Sasori & Kisame

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....He didn't make any sense? Its the only place his Nukite would enter...What?

The scar is where Nukite hit him the last time, where is your proof for the baseless assumption that his scar is weaker than the rest of his body? Such a thing was never stated or even hinted at in the manga.

Also your not getting it, gold is pretty damn hard to scratch and penetrate (as is most metals) however they can be crushed with a great amount of force,Like a car for example as well...
This doesn't invalidate my point in any way shape or form considering we aren't talking about metal, we are talking about a human body but much much much more durable.

lol? A car can be pierced easier than it is to crush it, further helping my point here.

You people are overestimating his durabilitiy greatly.......

You are overestimating Kakuzu's elemental jutsu..as usual.

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Having hard skin is not saving him from getting crushed...Its that simple really

I hope you are joking. Obviously it'll be hard to crush something that is hard than it is to crush something that is soft. Atsugai isn't doing shit to him.
 

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The scar is where Nukite hit him the last time, where is your proof for the baseless assumption that his scar is weaker than the rest of his body? Such a thing was never stated or even hinted at in the manga.


This doesn't invalidate my point in any way shape or form considering we aren't talking about metal, we are talking about a human body but much much much more durable.

lol? A car can be pierced easier than it is to crush it, further helping my point here.



You are overestimating Kakuzu's elemental jutsu..as usual.



I hope you are joking. Obviously it'll be hard to crush something that is hard than it is to crush something that is soft. Atsugai isn't doing shit to him.

....So stab a car with a knife see how that gets you..

Anyways i never said it actually would hurt This mother****er,

But when people start throwing around the 0 diff, Tanking everything because his skin is so hard..

Which doesn't even make sense...As he's clearly been sliced with 0 difficulty..Is rather stupid

If anything Kakuzu's raiton can damage him U_U
 

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....So stab a car with a knife see how that gets you..

Of course you decide to pick the weakest kind of stabbing weapon for this example.

Try crushing a car with a hammer and see how far that gets you.....see what I did there?

Anyways i never said it actually would hurt This mother****er,
You said he'd be crushed.

But when people start throwing around the 0 diff, Tanking everything because his skin is so hard..
He tanks Atsugai 0 diff.

Which doesn't even make sense...As he's clearly been sliced with 0 difficulty..Is rather stupid
He was cut into by an attack better than Atusgai.


If anything Kakuzu's raiton can damage him U_U

Its tanked with ease. If Raiton Armor is up its no diff.
 

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Of course you decide to pick the weakest kind of stabbing weapon for this example.

Try crushing a car with a hammer and see how far that gets you.....see what I did there?


You said he'd be crushed.


He tanks Atsugai 0 diff.


He was cut into by an attack better than Atusgai.




Its tanked with ease. If Raiton Armor is up its no diff.

Wind style regardless of whether you think he tanks it or not Negates the Lightning Armor, and then Raiton kills him,

Boulders> Steel

Take a giant Knife, as big as a car compresser still not getting very far :|

I said he may be crushed U_U

Again, all his skin has shown is that he has been penetrated ...Twice, does it even have any tanking feats?

Actually didn't by itself .it tanked a FRS?
 

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How do you know this, nothing really has shown how strong or weak it crushes....

Exactly! So how are you saying it can crush someone as strong as Sandaime, who has been shown to survive the instant teleportation, which would crush a normal body, a Rasenshuriken, and Temari's Kiri Kiri Mae. The burden of proof is on you, as you cannot prove it has the crushing power to destroy someone as strong as Sandaime; what, it destroyed some trees... is that it?
 

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Exactly! So how are you saying it can crush someone as strong as Sandaime, who has been shown to survive the instant teleportation, which would crush a normal body, a Rasenshuriken, and Temari's Kiri Kiri Mae. The burden of proof is on you, as you cannot prove it has the crushing power to destroy someone as strong as Sandaime; what, it destroyed some trees... is that it?

And the ground :hint:

But yes i knew you would say this, but i mean, its not like his Skin has tanked much anyways
 

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And the ground :hint:

But yes i knew you would say this, but i mean, its not like his Skin has tanked much anyways

The ground, lol.

It hasn't tanked much, but I think we can agree that he's tanked enough to prove he can withstand Atsugai.
 

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Exactly! So how are you saying it can crush someone as strong as Sandaime, who has been shown to survive the instant teleportation, which would crush a normal body, a Rasenshuriken, and Temari's Kiri Kiri Mae. The burden of proof is on you, as you cannot prove it has the crushing power to destroy someone as strong as Sandaime; what, it destroyed some trees... is that it?
On top of it, humans in NV are overly durable themselves compared to us. Crushing trees/ground/rocks is more easier for them to do against humans.
Even part 1 Lee tanked a point blank crushing force which gauged a hole in wall and would kill or atleast cripple any of us:

A pressure type of crushing attack at Atsugai's caliber would do zlich to Sandaime.
 

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On top of it, humans in NV are overly durable themselves compared to us. Crushing trees/ground/rocks is more easier for them to do against humans.
Even part 1 Lee tanked a point blank crushing force which gauged a hole in wall and would kill or atleast cripple any of us:

A pressure type of crushing attack at Atsugai's caliber would do zlich to Sandaime.

Real talk nigga.
 

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The ground, lol.

It hasn't tanked much, but I think we can agree that he's tanked enough to prove he can withstand Atsugai.

>.> Seriously though has it tanked...Anything?

On top of it, humans in NV are overly durable themselves compared to us. Crushing trees/ground/rocks is more easier for them to do against humans.
Even part 1 Lee tanked a point blank crushing force which gauged a hole in wall and would kill or atleast cripple any of us:

A pressure type of crushing attack at Atsugai's caliber would do zlich to Sandaime.

What? Obviously that means the jutsu that are stated to crush humans and kill humans are comparable to the NV's Humans..Not the one IRL
 

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Having hard skin is not saving him from getting crushed...Its that simple really
Having hard skin saved Kimimaro from getting crushed by Gaara's coffin of crushing sand yet it can't save the 3rd Raikage, who is much more durable than Kimimaro, against a pressure wind attack that Hidan tanked, a guy who can't tank sand coffin.
The scar is where Nukite hit him the last time, where is your proof for the baseless assumption that his scar is weaker than the rest of his body? Such a thing was never stated or even hinted at in the manga.
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The scar is obviously weaker than the rest of his body. When the Sandaime first accidentally stabbed himself, he managed to live through it but as an edo, due to the wound already being present, the hell stab went through this time completely. Also if you already have a cut, it is much easier to reopen that particular cut compared to normal healthy skin for the simple fact because there is no scar.
Exactly! So how are you saying it can crush someone as strong as Sandaime, who has been shown to survive the instant teleportation, which would crush a normal body, a Rasenshuriken, and Temari's Kiri Kiri Mae. The burden of proof is on you, as you cannot prove it has the crushing power to destroy someone as strong as Sandaime; what, it destroyed some trees... is that it?
The Sandaime Raikage never tanked a Kiri Kiri Mae from Temari for the simple fact that Temari hasn't used Kiri Kiri Mae in all of Shippuden.

OT: Team 1 wins low difficulty.
 

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>.> Seriously though has it tanked...Anything?



What? Obviously that means the jutsu that are stated to crush humans and kill humans are comparable to the NV's Humans..Not the one IRL

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İt said "inflicting severe damage to the target and surroinding"
Sandaime is not a normal target and he is not lacking durability like possible surroindings in NV such as trees, rocks, walls etc. Hence it does not even says it kills something, just damage. This guy survived heavenly transfer which kills about any human (aka: a normal "target" in NV).
Even a 13 yer old Lee survived a crushing force, what suggests Sandaime can't?
There is nothing suggests -absolutely nothing- Atsugai can kill or even harm 3rd.
 

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Having hard skin saved Kimimaro from getting crushed by Gaara's coffin of crushing sand yet it can't save the 3rd Raikage, who is much more durable than Kimimaro, against a pressure wind attack that Hidan tanked, a guy who can't tank sand coffin.

The scar if obviously weaker than the rest of his body. When the Sandaime first accidentally stabbed himself, he managed to live through it but as an edo, due to the wound already being present, the hell stab went through this time completely. Also if you already have a cut, it is much easier to reopen that particular cut than normal skin which isn't scarred.

The Sandaime Raikage never tanked a Kiri Kiri Mae from Temari for the simple fact that Temari hasn't used Kiri Kiri Mae in all of Shippuden.

OT: Team 1 wins low difficulty.

Bone=/= Skin entirely
 

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İt said "inflicting severe damage to the target and surroinding"
Sandaime is not a normal target and he is not lacking durability like possible surroindings in NV such as trees, rocks, walls etc. Hence it does not even says it kills something, just damage. This guy survived heavenly transfer which kills about any human (aka: a normal "target" in NV).
Even a 13 yer old Lee survived a crushing force, what suggests Sandaime can't?
There is nothing suggests -absolutely nothing- Atsugai can kill or even harm 3rd.

What....You were trying to use the fact that NV shinobi are more durable then normal Humans....

Which means that all these attacks are comparable to NV shinobi and therefore your little ....Evidence is void and rather pointless
 

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Bone=/= Skin entirely
It doesn't change the fact that the 3rd Raikage's outer and internal body is much more durable than Kimimaro's who survived an attack that Hidan can't. That same attack that Hidan survives you are saying can do damage to the Sandaime Raikage.

BTW Kakuzu can't even beat the fourth Raikage much less the third. Atsugai is dodged, let's just leave it at that or the best it can do is strip lightning armour from the Sandaime but that is all. I guess it can blow the Third Raikage off his feet as well but that doesn't help Kakuzu finish him off.
 

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Having hard skin saved Kimimaro from getting crushed by Gaara's coffin of crushing sand yet it can't save the 3rd Raikage, who is much more durable than Kimimaro, against a pressure wind attack that Hidan tanked, a guy who can't tank sand coffin.

The scar is obviously weaker than the rest of his body. When the Sandaime first accidentally stabbed himself, he managed to live through it but as an edo, due to the wound already being present, the hell stab went through this time completely. Also if you already have a cut, it is much easier to reopen that particular cut compared to normal healthy skin for the simple fact because there is no scar.

The Sandaime Raikage never tanked a Kiri Kiri Mae from Temari for the simple fact that Temari hasn't used Kiri Kiri Mae in all of Shippuden.

OT: Team 1 wins low difficulty.

Oh shit, yeah, that was the jutsu she used on Tayuya, right? I know jack all about Temari; I just remembered it was win cast net.

@Zexion

Rasenshuriken?
Wind cast net?
Lightning transmission?

Is that not enough?
 

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It doesn't change the fact that the 3rd Raikage's outer and internal body is much more durable than Kimimaro's who survived an attack that Hidan can't. That same attack that Hidan survives you are saying can do damage to the Sandaime Raikage.

BTW Kakuzu can't even beat the fourth Raikage much less the third. Atsugai is dodged, let's just leave it at that or the best it can do is strip lightning armour from the Sandaime but that is all. I guess it can blow the Third Raikage off his feet as well but that doesn't help Kakuzu finish him off.

Kakuzu can beat the fourth .....
 
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