Tsunade + Kakashi V.S Jiriaya + Darui

[lndra]

Some of ya'll need to listen to Take Care again.

That shit will always be a classic. I still bump it time to time.

 

[KidGamer65]

Some of ya'll need to listen to Take Care again.

That shit will always be a classic. I still bump it time to time.

Listen to it almost everyday. Most of it anyway.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Not to mention all of Drake's projects except the EP and TML are charting on Billboard, and if people weren't listening to them they wouldn't be charting still. Even ****ing TML re entered the Billboard charts out of nowhere a few months ago. 6 yr old album. Re entered a chart that counts streams.

But nah. No one's listening to Drake's old stuff at all.

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Lmfao, exactly. It's always the same old shit. It must be so hard to be a Drake hater, having to constantly reach for baseless reasons to discredit his legacy. Ain't nobody has more replay value to their music like Drake does. TML and SFG get's played literally every single day. You listen to those songs, and you just reminisce.

Some of ya'll need to listen to Take Care again.

That shit will always be a classic. I still bump it time to time.

Facts. Might just be my favorite album of all time, that shit is crazy. Like if you haven't lived Marvins Room, I don't know what to tell you. The song, the video... Classic.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Can't we just go back to when rap was good.

[video=youtube;Z-mIuYyIytA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-mIuYyIytA[/video]


I agree with Toshi's con of Kendrick but no one is really pleased to listen to drake sing out a ***** hook after rapping about his wealth and hoes for a whole album :lol

I'm not Drake's biggest fan either, but you can't deny that the guy is clearly talented at what he does from a technical standpoint. What you're referring to and arguing about is artistic guile, which is a category distinct from pure skill.

If Drake's desire is only to make stylish music, why should you hold that against him? Or his fans? The condescension isn't needed considering that you don't have to listen to him.

Music, being an art form after all, is inherently subjective. Try to figure out what others use as a benchmark for measuring the depth of a musician (or any artist, really) before assuming that others will follow your own tangential preconceptions. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

 

[King Of Pop]

Some of ya'll need to listen to Take Care again.

That shit will always be a classic. I still bump it time to time.

word. most of my favourite drake tracks are on that album, below is one of them

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[video=youtube;FyBU0JZ3RbY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyBU0JZ3RbY[/video]

incredible shit. i actually find him one of the best when he goes in like this

 

[makosheva7]

I'll help the Drake side out, if you're trying to prove Drake can rap, it's certainly not doing it with those tracks.

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[video=youtube;3t195yz9xCc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t195yz9xCc[/video]

Although he doesn't make tracks like this anymore, so there's that.

You gotta have a balance though imo TPAB was too focused on the art to the point where it took away from the ability to casually listen to it. It's not really an easy album to listen to. If you can make something that's easy to listen to and its complex, then you've got the perfect balance.

For that reason GKMC > TPAB imo.

You have to make something that's pleasing to the ears, we're talking about music afterall. Sometimes Kendrick strays from that, that's one of the only cons I can think of for Kendrick.

I dunno for me being exposed to jazz, soul and classic rock TPAB is one of the easiest albums to listen to. People just need to expand their horizons.

 

[makosheva7]

Are your rap skills worse? No. Overall you may be viewed as a worse rapper but when it comes to your actual technical skills they haven't changed at all. This logic doesn't even make sense to me. So the people who tell more meaningful stories are superior rappers to the people aren't telling stories like that regardless of actual ability?

Please don't say yes.

Lmao you didn't even understand what I said. To answer your question, it depends. When you say "actual ability" in rap you are talking about slick rhymes (and when I say slick rhymes im including the actual rhymes and the rhythmic way the lines in the verse are said) when in actuality rap is about the COMBINATION of slick rhymes and storytelling. Again, ITS THE DEFINITION OF RAP.

Soooo if we say for the sake of argument that Kendrick and Drake both have equal mad rhymes (which they don't) but Kendrick is much better at storytelling through those rhymes (which means he uses more meaningful words, metaphors, similes and more language devices not to mention has meaningful stories to tell) then Kendrick IS THE BETTER RAPPER.

It's all in the definition. I enjoy Drake's music a lot, but Kdot is on another level.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao you didn't even understand what I said. To answer your question, it depends. When you say "actual ability" in rap you are talking about slick rhymes (and when I say slick rhymes im including the actual rhymes and the rhythmic way the lines in the verse are said) when in actuality rap is about the COMBINATION of slick rhymes and storytelling. Again, ITS THE DEFINITION OF RAP.

Soooo if we say for the sake of argument that Kendrick and Drake both have equal mad rhymes (which they don't) but Kendrick is much better at storytelling through those rhymes (which means he uses more meaningful words, metaphors, similes and more language devices not to mention has meaningful stories to tell) then Kendrick IS THE BETTER RAPPER.

It's all in the definition. I enjoy Drake's music a lot, but Kdot is on another level.

I do understand what you are saying, it's just 100% irrelevant to what I'm saying. And no, it doesn't depend, because technical rap ability and subject matter are two separate things. Your example also isn't relevant. Ability is what makes you good at rapping, not what you talk about. If two people have equal rap ability then neither is better than the other when it comes to technical rapping. The only thing that puts them on a higher pedestal is subject matter.

Your example doesn't even hold, because if the bold was true then their rap ability wouldn't be equal. And if they were equal in actual ability then not only would that prove my point, but then you would have no choice but to separate them between what they talk about. You might view someone as a better rapper than someone who isn't telling a story but in reality if someone's technical skills far surpassed someone's who was telling a story then the better rapper would obviously be the former. Not the latter.


And I'm not debating whether or not Drake is better than Kendrick because I never said Drake is a better rapper than Kendrick.

 

[Zexion~]

I'm not Drake's biggest fan either, but you can't deny that the guy is clearly talented at what he does from a technical standpoint. What you're referring to and arguing about is artistic guile, which is a category distinct from pure skill.

If Drake's desire is only to make stylish music, why should you hold that against him? Or his fans? The condescension isn't needed considering that you don't have to listen to him.

Music, being an art form after all, is inherently subjective. Try to figure out what others use as a benchmark for measuring the depth of a musician (or any artist, really) before assuming that others will follow your own tangential preconceptions. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

Don't care if ya'll think he's good I guess I just assumed you all were saying he's better than Kendrick. In my humble opinion Drake won't be an all time great because he drifts so far away from every other great rapper does.

 

[lelerskates]

U *****s don't know music if you think drake is good at anything except being a feg. I'm not surprised KG likes him. Explains all of his feg shit.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade , Dariu isn't enought to give J the time to enter sage mode , tsuande team wins

 

[EZQ]

Rap is a violent genre of music. It's also sexist.

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Bring the neg rep

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Rap comes from RAPE, which is the meaning of this sexist genre of music

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Jesus doesn't want us to listen to Rapers and Rapists (who are the same btw)