Tsunade is the weakest kage

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Bro, i'm saying she is stronger than others. The other Kages haven't done anything impressive. Gaara and Onoki have done a lot, but the other two have been weak targets. She might be either in the middle strongest or who knows. Her techs are powerful. If she has sage mode, she might as well be the strongest.
 

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Tsunade cant block jinton but she might be able to dodge it also Oonoki can fly so there's no way she can hit him Oonoki can also make her body weigh over 1000 pounds just by touching enabling her to move.



Im not talking about most useful kage im talking about her being the weakest and Gaara,Mei and A have all shown feats above hers.



You are not explaining how she beats Mei,Gaara,A and Oonoki.

This is not a Vs. Thread. Also, you clearly have a strong opinion which I can't change or at least make you come to an understanding.
 

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Im talking about her being weaker than all the other kages not about her medical skills.



Look what i said to the other guy.



I just explianed how she's the weakest read before you post or atleast explain she's not the weakest.



Look what i said to the 1st and 2nd guy.



That's irrelvant this is about her being weaker than the others.



Look at what i said to the 1st guy.




That's nice but im talking about her being weaker than the other kages.



A is too fast to get hit by Tsunade and he also has his lightning element techs. No she wont beat Mei.



No she wont i just explained in the thread.



Stop saying that. That has nothing to do with her being the weakest.



1. Just because your a senju dosen't mean your automatically really strong.

2. She can heal herself all she wants she still cant beat the other kages.

3. You just said that in number 2.

4. Hell no! She would lose to all of the kages.

5. Katsuya isn't much of a fighter at what i seen her main purpose is healing.

6. She still cant beat the other kages.

7. That has a risk though the longer she uses it the more it shortens her life span.

No Matter what you Say to disprove us, Your Logic is not in place. You Actually think she is the weakest . . . . Please.
 

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I'm gonna to make a thread that will be awesome thanks Naruto9001.
 

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Well, the more he says stuff without manga backing the more it will be force fed to us. He seems to forget versatility is more important than being good in one hax Jutsu. Tsunade's evasion, highest ranking intellect, summoning, and the way she can change the battlefield with her taijutsu makes her a beast.
 

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Well, the more he says stuff without manga backing the more it will be force fed to us. He seems to forget versatility is more important than being good in one hax Jutsu. Tsunade's evasion, highest ranking intellect, summoning, and the way she can change the battlefield with her taijutsu makes her a beast.

so true lol
 

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Tsunade does not only use Taijutsu. Sasuke extended his reach with his chakra blade. Tsunade can extend her reach beyond that with her SUMMONING (Not Taijutsu). Just because her primary form of attack lies in Taijutsu does not mean that is all she can do. Take into account that like any other trained ninja she must be good at two elements. Plus with her evasion and the ability to create giant fissures to hide in, Tsunade would have ways to bait Tsuchikage in. Oh, and can't Taijutsu be used to damage the terrain and use the boulders and debri as a long range weapon?

Katsuya isn't a fighter she would get destroyed easily by one jinton. Face it Tsunade cant beat Onoki or any of the kages.

Bro, i'm saying she is stronger than others. The other Kages haven't done anything impressive. Gaara and Onoki have done a lot, but the other two have been weak targets. She might be either in the middle strongest or who knows. Her techs are powerful. If she has sage mode, she might as well be the strongest.

Yes they have. Mei was able to melt susano. Gaara is able to pull Madara out of susano he also can seal people with his. A is really fast his able to dodge amaterasu at point blank range.
 

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I can't believe some people actually think she can beat A and gaara and onko. No matter how useful she is in battle she simply can't beat any other kage one on one. I read post of people saying she die cuz of her jutsu but she would run out of chakra b4 the others except for Mei but her ninjutsu is so hignh of a level she just needs to get tsuanda one good time and its over. I honestly don't think she can beat neji
 

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Ok ok, I guess as a Tsunade fan, I should explain why Tsunade is not the weakest kage. She's the third strongest though the argument could be made that she is tied with A for Third Strongest.
But she's the most useful hands down.
  1. She utilizes involuntary reflexes:
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  2. She hits pressure points:
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  3. She uses shockwaves:
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    While the shockwaves are a product of her strength she has still been shown using the resultant shockwaves to her advantage to stop an attack.
  4. She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:
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    She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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  5. She is very aware of her surroundings:
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  6. She has extreme strength:Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    And this K.O.ed a level 2 Susanoo
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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    And According to the Naruto Wiki
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  7. She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect:
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
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    She resourcefully used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point and calculated his appropriate reactions
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
    This was also intelligent
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  8. Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine thrice(3 Yasaka Magatama and 3Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan. Then still having the chakra to turn Oonoki's Jinton into Jinton on steroids.
  9. She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  10. She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
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  11. She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:
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  12. She is capable of blitzing:
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  13. She can knock people out without using her strength:
    If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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  14. She is not slow:
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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    In this image Mei didn't have enough time to respond to Madara's Katon, nor did the other kages have any time to react yet Tsunade effectively protected her team.
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  15. She is incredibly durable:
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    Three Yasaka Magatamas
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    Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles
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    Shinra Tensei Full Powered
    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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      (it looks as though Tsunade was about to fight him based on what the Anbu said)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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      This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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    • This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
    • Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  16. Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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    Though I will grant you that the manga is vague on this point.
  17. Katsuyu- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people. This is the crushing power of one of her minis
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    . She could mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it split into enough slugs that it could heal nearly every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat and each of those slugs can spit acid which would burn through skin as it burned through rock a feat not even Mei's Boil release has. And Note the quantity of acid produced
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    This will either kill the opponent or leave an opening Tsunade to attack. And Katsuyu can be used to heal a mass number of people in addition to being able to be used to instantly relay information from several areas at once and allowing Tsunade to either sense or see what Katsuyu sees.
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    . In addition stab and slice techniques are ineffective against katsuyu
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    and her sheer size will render most elemental releases moot
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  18. She's experienced with war: Apparently Tsunade is the reason Konoha won the second Ninja war.
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    She lived during and possibly fought in the third Ninja war. She is a large reason the Allied Shinobi forces is winning this war.Tsunade's help began when she taught Sakura. In all honesty Sakura has actually played a rather important role in the war. When Zetsu invaded the camp she was able to see through his disguise and neutralize him. If Sakura had not done this he could have assassinated the medical corps within that group. And if there are no medical ninja not only would the army suffer more fatal injuries but they would suffer more so from fatigue. Furthermore Tsunade summoned Katsuyu. Katsuyu has been used to distribute information from battlefield to battlefield instantly. Which is invaluable in war. Tsunade decided to allow Naruto and Bee to pass then helped persuade A to allow pass. She decided she was going to war, decided how she was going to get there, and how to transport Mei to the battlefield. Which aided A in deciding he should go with Tsunade. When she arrived to the battlefield she started by kicking Madara. She then healed Oonoki and Gaara who were near death. She healed Mei and refilled Mei's Chakra. She attacked Madara which allowed the kages to finally make some headway. She broke through a level one Susanoo. And defeated a Madara clone. She broke the Susanoo sword she was impaled with and attacked him with it creating an opening for Oonoki to attack. She tanked 3 Yasaka Magatamas. With two Susanoo swords impaling her she knocked out a Susanoo- Edo Madara clone. She gave more chakra to Oonoki so that he could do his large scale jinton.
  19. Her Taijutsu is powerful:
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    given Raikage's statment that her fighting style was getting sloppy one can infer she had just been stabbed and previous to that she was fighting more efficiently in a superior manner. From what we saw on that page she still was not fighting badly as she had just manhandled a Susanoo clone something only 2/5 kages were doing

Now she would lose to Oonoki because of Jinton
She would probably lose to Gaara because of ... the sand (I mean that is his main weapon)

However, in terms of A.
In one fight she has healed 3 kages back to seemingly perfect health and refilled their chakras. Donated additional chakra to Oonoki. Healed from Three Susanoo Swords, Three Yasaka Magatamas, a Katon, and The Heavenly Transfer Technique. She has fought five Susanoo clones at once at least putting one down. Took out the first Madara clone. Broke Susanoo.And proved her reaction time was good. People say she won't be able to hit A. For the most part I agree it will be difficult to land a hit on A.
But based on points 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, and 19 in the spoiler. I think it is possible for her to hit A.
In order to kill Tsunade you must exhaust her chakra reserves. Which seem to be similar to A's and if they are smaller are still large. We have seen A doesn't always use his lightening cloak in battle.
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Meaning he was either near his limit or that in tough battles he tries a different approach other than raiton armor. I don't see A exhausting Tsunade's chakra reserves with just taijutsu. I also don't see him exhausting chakra her reserves with one arm. Nor do I think he would go the whole battle without getting touched. And if she touches him while he has his raiton cloak off then he can fall prey to the Body Pathway derangement. Not to mention A doesn't have a counter for point 17.
Tsunade would beat Mei. Yes, Mei has 3 elements and a KKGK. But her lava has does not have speed feats. And given how Tsunade was able to respond to an attack before Mei could use a Suiton (as seen in point 14) I think she would be able to avoid Mei's lava and Suiton releases. Which really only leaves Mei's Doton and Katon's. But if Tsunade can tank Madara's Katon which was meant to burn 5 people, then Tsunade will probably be able to tank Mei's Katon. Because Mei has not been seen using katon or Dotons it serves to reason then that her strongest attacks are suitons which would make sense as Mizukage. But add to that that we've seen her use both kkgk then it serves to reason Katon and Doton are not her preferred elements. And as we've not seen a her use a Doton we don't know the extent to which the Dotons are dangerous. Mei's acid wouldn't really be a problem. We've seen her acid burn skin,
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but considering how well Tsunade handled Madara's Katon, I don't see the acid being a game changer here.
So point 15 works against Mei .
You might say the Hidden Mist Jutsu but seeing how high we've seen Tsunade jump (when she jumped more than Gamabunta's total height while still holding his sword) getting out of the mist shouldn't be a problem. In addition, she could just summon Katsuyu to lift her out of the reach of the mist. And Mei hasn't actually shown any sort of tracking abilities.
 

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Ok ok, I guess as a Tsunade fan, I should explain why Tsunade is not the weakest kage. She's the third strongest though the argument could be made that she is tied with A for Third Strongest.
But she's the most useful hands down.
  1. She utilizes involuntary reflexes:
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  2. She hits pressure points:
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  3. She uses shockwaves:
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    While the shockwaves are a product of her strength she has still been shown using the resultant shockwaves to her advantage to stop an attack.
  4. She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:
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    She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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  5. She is very aware of her surroundings:
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  6. She has extreme strength:Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    And this K.O.ed a level 2 Susanoo
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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    And According to the Naruto Wiki
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  7. She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect:
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
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    She resourcefully used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point and calculated his appropriate reactions
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
    This was also intelligent
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  8. Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine thrice(3 Yasaka Magatama and 3Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan. Then still having the chakra to turn Oonoki's Jinton into Jinton on steroids.
  9. She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  10. She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
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  11. She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:
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  12. She is capable of blitzing:
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  13. She can knock people out without using her strength:
    If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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  14. She is not slow:
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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    In this image Mei didn't have enough time to respond to Madara's Katon, nor did the other kages have any time to react yet Tsunade effectively protected her team.
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  15. She is incredibly durable:
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    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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      This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  16. Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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    Though I will grant you that the manga is vague on this point.
  17. Katsuyu- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people. This is the crushing power of one of her minis
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    . She could mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it split into enough slugs that it could heal nearly every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat and each of those slugs can spit acid which would burn through skin as it burned through rock a feat not even Mei's Boil release has. And Note the quantity of acid produced
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    This will either kill the opponent or leave an opening Tsunade to attack. And Katsuyu can be used to heal a mass number of people in addition to being able to be used to instantly relay information from several areas at once and allowing Tsunade to either sense or see what Katsuyu sees.
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    . In addition stab and slice techniques are ineffective against katsuyu
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    and her sheer size will render most elemental releases moot
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  18. She's experienced with war: Apparently Tsunade is the reason Konoha won the second Ninja war.
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    She lived during and possibly fought in the third Ninja war. She is a large reason the Allied Shinobi forces is winning this war.Tsunade's help began when she taught Sakura. In all honesty Sakura has actually played a rather important role in the war. When Zetsu invaded the camp she was able to see through his disguise and neutralize him. If Sakura had not done this he could have assassinated the medical corps within that group. And if there are no medical ninja not only would the army suffer more fatal injuries but they would suffer more so from fatigue. Furthermore Tsunade summoned Katsuyu. Katsuyu has been used to distribute information from battlefield to battlefield instantly. Which is invaluable in war. Tsunade decided to allow Naruto and Bee to pass then helped persuade A to allow pass. She decided she was going to war, decided how she was going to get there, and how to transport Mei to the battlefield. Which aided A in deciding he should go with Tsunade. When she arrived to the battlefield she started by kicking Madara. She then healed Oonoki and Gaara who were near death. She healed Mei and refilled Mei's Chakra. She attacked Madara which allowed the kages to finally make some headway. She broke through a level one Susanoo. And defeated a Madara clone. She broke the Susanoo sword she was impaled with and attacked him with it creating an opening for Oonoki to attack. She tanked 3 Yasaka Magatamas. With two Susanoo swords impaling her she knocked out a Susanoo- Edo Madara clone. She gave more chakra to Oonoki so that he could do his large scale jinton.
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    given Raikage's statment that her fighting style was getting sloppy one can infer she had just been stabbed and previous to that she was fighting more efficiently in a superior manner. From what we saw on that page she still was not fighting badly as she had just manhandled a Susanoo clone something only 2/5 kages were doing

Now she would lose to Oonoki because of Jinton
She would probably lose to Gaara because of ... the sand (I mean that is his main weapon)

However, in terms of A.
In one fight she has healed 3 kages back to seemingly perfect health and refilled their chakras. Donated additional chakra to Oonoki. Healed from Three Susanoo Swords, Three Yasaka Magatamas, a Katon, and The Heavenly Transfer Technique. She has fought five Susanoo clones at once at least putting one down. Took out the first Madara clone. Broke Susanoo.And proved her reaction time was good. People say she won't be able to hit A. For the most part I agree it will be difficult to land a hit on A.
But based on points 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, and 19 in the spoiler. I think it is possible for her to hit A.
In order to kill Tsunade you must exhaust her chakra reserves. Which seem to be similar to A's and if they are smaller are still large. We have seen A doesn't always use his lightening cloak in battle.
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Meaning he was either near his limit or that in tough battles he tries a different approach other than raiton armor. I don't see A exhausting Tsunade's chakra reserves with just taijutsu. I also don't see him exhausting chakra her reserves with one arm. Nor do I think he would go the whole battle without getting touched. And if she touches him while he has his raiton cloak off then he can fall prey to the Body Pathway derangement. Not to mention A doesn't have a counter for point 17.
Tsunade would beat Mei. Yes, Mei has 3 elements and a KKGK. But her lava has does not have speed feats. And given how Tsunade was able to respond to an attack before Mei could use a Suiton (as seen in point 14) I think she would be able to avoid Mei's lava and Suiton releases. Which really only leaves Mei's Doton and Katon's. But if Tsunade can tank Madara's Katon which was meant to burn 5 people, then Tsunade will probably be able to tank Mei's Katon. Because Mei has not been seen using katon or Dotons it serves to reason then that her strongest attacks are suitons which would make sense as Mizukage. But add to that that we've seen her use both kkgk then it serves to reason Katon and Doton are not her preferred elements. And as we've not seen a her use a Doton we don't know the extent to which the Dotons are dangerous. Mei's acid wouldn't really be a problem. We've seen her acid burn skin,
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but considering how well Tsunade handled Madara's Katon, I don't see the acid being a game changer here.
So point 15 works against Mei .
You might say the Hidden Mist Jutsu but seeing how high we've seen Tsunade jump (when she jumped more than Gamabunta's total height while still holding his sword) getting out of the mist shouldn't be a problem. In addition, she could just summon Katsuyu to lift her out of the reach of the mist. And Mei hasn't actually shown any sort of tracking abilities.

You dont have to list everything Tsunade can do i already know. But she does have her limits she definatly cant beat Onoki and Gaara anyone who says otherwise a fanboy. A also has his Lariat which i doubt Tsunade could dodge due to A's speed so if his lariat knockes her head or lunges off she'll die she cant regenrate that. Mei also has Skilled Mist it was able to melt Sasuke's incomplete susano so im sure it can also melt human skin.
 

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You dont have to list everything Tsunade can do i already know. But she does have her limits she definatly cant beat Onoki and Gaara anyone who says otherwise a fanboy. A also has his Lariat which i doubt Tsunade could dodge due to A's speed so if his lariat knockes her head or lunges off she'll die she cant regenrate that. Mei also has Skilled Mist it was able to melt Sasuke's incomplete susano so im sure it can also melt human skin.

I listed Tsunade's abilities so that they are easier to refer to. Without having to keep linking manga pages. That said.
You say Tsunade cannot respond to A coming in for a Lariat. His Lariat is weaker than Base Bee's Lariat.
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Tsunade's has shown more Durability feats than Sasuke.
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Here Sasuke is about to die.
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Now Tsunade has these feats.
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Her abdomen and bicep muscles were just cut and she countered.
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Her respiratory muscles in addition to the above muscles were cut and she still blitzed Kabuto.
All the muscles Tsunade had cut were still cut and she was battling hemophobia, and was cut by the sword of Kusunagi thrice and still counter attacked
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Here the Heavenly transfer technique should have ripped Tsunade apart but it didn't. She got cut but not compared to how she should have be ripped apart. She was intact enough to attack Madara before healing with no signs of dying.
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She tanked the Susanoo sword and three Yasaka Magatama
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and Tsunade tanked a Shinra Tensei up close with no healing of herself. Bee's Hachi cloak Lariat did serious damage to Sasuke's chest
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But as it was shown in the next page Sasuke was still alive and breathing which means Bee's Lariat wasn't destructive enough to take out Sasuke's Heart and Lungs.
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In fact we can still see Sasuke's ribs here
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So I doubt A's Lariat would be an insta-kill.
Additionally Tsunade appears to be rather familiar with A
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However he was totally shocked to see she survived the Susanoo sword.
And it took the Hachibi cloak to screw up Sasuke's chest.
So no I don't say see A chopping of Tsunade's neck so easily. I know I know, A broke Hachibi's horn. Let's start with the fact that a horn is made of the same thing as nails, and let's talk about how Hachibi's horn doesn't have any durability feats, and even more about how we know A's strength compare's with Base Bee's and the effects of Bee's Hachibi enhanced Lariat. I think Tsunade would survive Lariat just find. Bee did, and technically when Bee ran directly into A's Lariat he made the Lariat stronger because his force was going in the opposite of A's force making a stronger clash. Two Lariates together are a decap move. A single lariat is not, otherwise Bee wouldn't have been needed for their A-B team move.

And we've seen the effects of Mei's acid on human skin already.
 
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Ok ok, I guess as a Tsunade fan, I should explain why Tsunade is not the weakest kage. She's the third strongest though the argument could be made that she is tied with A for Third Strongest.
But she's the most useful hands down.
  1. She utilizes involuntary reflexes:
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  3. She uses shockwaves:
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    While the shockwaves are a product of her strength she has still been shown using the resultant shockwaves to her advantage to stop an attack.
  4. She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:
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    She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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  5. She is very aware of her surroundings:
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  6. She has extreme strength:Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    And this K.O.ed a level 2 Susanoo
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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  7. She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect:
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
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    She resourcefully used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point and calculated his appropriate reactions
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
    This was also intelligent
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  8. Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine thrice(3 Yasaka Magatama and 3Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan. Then still having the chakra to turn Oonoki's Jinton into Jinton on steroids.
  9. She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  10. She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
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  11. She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:
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  12. She is capable of blitzing:
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  13. She can knock people out without using her strength:
    If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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  14. She is not slow:
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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    In this image Mei didn't have enough time to respond to Madara's Katon, nor did the other kages have any time to react yet Tsunade effectively protected her team.
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  15. She is incredibly durable:
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    Three Yasaka Magatamas
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    Madara's Katon
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    Shinra Tensei Full Powered
    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  16. Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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    Though I will grant you that the manga is vague on this point.
  17. Katsuyu- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people. This is the crushing power of one of her minis
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    . She could mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it split into enough slugs that it could heal nearly every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat and each of those slugs can spit acid which would burn through skin as it burned through rock a feat not even Mei's Boil release has. And Note the quantity of acid produced
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    This will either kill the opponent or leave an opening Tsunade to attack. And Katsuyu can be used to heal a mass number of people in addition to being able to be used to instantly relay information from several areas at once and allowing Tsunade to either sense or see what Katsuyu sees.
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    . In addition stab and slice techniques are ineffective against katsuyu
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    and her sheer size will render most elemental releases moot
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  18. She's experienced with war: Apparently Tsunade is the reason Konoha won the second Ninja war.
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    She lived during and possibly fought in the third Ninja war. She is a large reason the Allied Shinobi forces is winning this war.Tsunade's help began when she taught Sakura. In all honesty Sakura has actually played a rather important role in the war. When Zetsu invaded the camp she was able to see through his disguise and neutralize him. If Sakura had not done this he could have assassinated the medical corps within that group. And if there are no medical ninja not only would the army suffer more fatal injuries but they would suffer more so from fatigue. Furthermore Tsunade summoned Katsuyu. Katsuyu has been used to distribute information from battlefield to battlefield instantly. Which is invaluable in war. Tsunade decided to allow Naruto and Bee to pass then helped persuade A to allow pass. She decided she was going to war, decided how she was going to get there, and how to transport Mei to the battlefield. Which aided A in deciding he should go with Tsunade. When she arrived to the battlefield she started by kicking Madara. She then healed Oonoki and Gaara who were near death. She healed Mei and refilled Mei's Chakra. She attacked Madara which allowed the kages to finally make some headway. She broke through a level one Susanoo. And defeated a Madara clone. She broke the Susanoo sword she was impaled with and attacked him with it creating an opening for Oonoki to attack. She tanked 3 Yasaka Magatamas. With two Susanoo swords impaling her she knocked out a Susanoo- Edo Madara clone. She gave more chakra to Oonoki so that he could do his large scale jinton.
  19. Her Taijutsu is powerful:
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    given Raikage's statment that her fighting style was getting sloppy one can infer she had just been stabbed and previous to that she was fighting more efficiently in a superior manner. From what we saw on that page she still was not fighting badly as she had just manhandled a Susanoo clone something only 2/5 kages were doing

Now she would lose to Oonoki because of Jinton
She would probably lose to Gaara because of ... the sand (I mean that is his main weapon)

However, in terms of A.
In one fight she has healed 3 kages back to seemingly perfect health and refilled their chakras. Donated additional chakra to Oonoki. Healed from Three Susanoo Swords, Three Yasaka Magatamas, a Katon, and The Heavenly Transfer Technique. She has fought five Susanoo clones at once at least putting one down. Took out the first Madara clone. Broke Susanoo.And proved her reaction time was good. People say she won't be able to hit A. For the most part I agree it will be difficult to land a hit on A.
But based on points 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, and 19 in the spoiler. I think it is possible for her to hit A.
In order to kill Tsunade you must exhaust her chakra reserves. Which seem to be similar to A's and if they are smaller are still large. We have seen A doesn't always use his lightening cloak in battle.
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Meaning he was either near his limit or that in tough battles he tries a different approach other than raiton armor. I don't see A exhausting Tsunade's chakra reserves with just taijutsu. I also don't see him exhausting chakra her reserves with one arm. Nor do I think he would go the whole battle without getting touched. And if she touches him while he has his raiton cloak off then he can fall prey to the Body Pathway derangement. Not to mention A doesn't have a counter for point 17.
Tsunade would beat Mei. Yes, Mei has 3 elements and a KKGK. But her lava has does not have speed feats. And given how Tsunade was able to respond to an attack before Mei could use a Suiton (as seen in point 14) I think she would be able to avoid Mei's lava and Suiton releases. Which really only leaves Mei's Doton and Katon's. But if Tsunade can tank Madara's Katon which was meant to burn 5 people, then Tsunade will probably be able to tank Mei's Katon. Because Mei has not been seen using katon or Dotons it serves to reason then that her strongest attacks are suitons which would make sense as Mizukage. But add to that that we've seen her use both kkgk then it serves to reason Katon and Doton are not her preferred elements. And as we've not seen a her use a Doton we don't know the extent to which the Dotons are dangerous. Mei's acid wouldn't really be a problem. We've seen her acid burn skin,
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but considering how well Tsunade handled Madara's Katon, I don't see the acid being a game changer here.
So point 15 works against Mei .
You might say the Hidden Mist Jutsu but seeing how high we've seen Tsunade jump (when she jumped more than Gamabunta's total height while still holding his sword) getting out of the mist shouldn't be a problem. In addition, she could just summon Katsuyu to lift her out of the reach of the mist. And Mei hasn't actually shown any sort of tracking abilities.

You are the wisest person I encounterd here....thank you for this brilliant summary :D
 

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Ok ok, I guess as a Tsunade fan, I should explain why Tsunade is not the weakest kage. She's the third strongest though the argument could be made that she is tied with A for Third Strongest.
But she's the most useful hands down.
  1. She utilizes involuntary reflexes:
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  3. She uses shockwaves:
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    While the shockwaves are a product of her strength she has still been shown using the resultant shockwaves to her advantage to stop an attack.
  4. She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:
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    She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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  5. She is very aware of her surroundings:
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  6. She has extreme strength:Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    And this K.O.ed a level 2 Susanoo
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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  7. She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect:
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
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    She resourcefully used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point and calculated his appropriate reactions
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  8. Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine thrice(3 Yasaka Magatama and 3Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan. Then still having the chakra to turn Oonoki's Jinton into Jinton on steroids.
  9. She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  10. She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
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  11. She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:
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  12. She is capable of blitzing:
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  13. She can knock people out without using her strength:
    If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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  14. She is not slow:
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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    In this image Mei didn't have enough time to respond to Madara's Katon, nor did the other kages have any time to react yet Tsunade effectively protected her team.
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  15. She is incredibly durable:
    Sword of Kusanagi:
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    Three Yasaka Magatamas
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    Shinra Tensei Full Powered
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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      This is Tsunade after she's realized he's got more up his sleeves than what has already been used the seal is still unbroken (using this picture to show that Tsunade isn't running away from the epicenter of Shinra Tensei in the picture above)
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    • This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  16. Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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    Though I will grant you that the manga is vague on this point.
  17. Katsuyu- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people. This is the crushing power of one of her minis
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    . She could mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it split into enough slugs that it could heal nearly every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat and each of those slugs can spit acid which would burn through skin as it burned through rock a feat not even Mei's Boil release has. And Note the quantity of acid produced
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    This will either kill the opponent or leave an opening Tsunade to attack. And Katsuyu can be used to heal a mass number of people in addition to being able to be used to instantly relay information from several areas at once and allowing Tsunade to either sense or see what Katsuyu sees.
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    . In addition stab and slice techniques are ineffective against katsuyu
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    and her sheer size will render most elemental releases moot
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  18. She's experienced with war: Apparently Tsunade is the reason Konoha won the second Ninja war.
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    She lived during and possibly fought in the third Ninja war. She is a large reason the Allied Shinobi forces is winning this war.Tsunade's help began when she taught Sakura. In all honesty Sakura has actually played a rather important role in the war. When Zetsu invaded the camp she was able to see through his disguise and neutralize him. If Sakura had not done this he could have assassinated the medical corps within that group. And if there are no medical ninja not only would the army suffer more fatal injuries but they would suffer more so from fatigue. Furthermore Tsunade summoned Katsuyu. Katsuyu has been used to distribute information from battlefield to battlefield instantly. Which is invaluable in war. Tsunade decided to allow Naruto and Bee to pass then helped persuade A to allow pass. She decided she was going to war, decided how she was going to get there, and how to transport Mei to the battlefield. Which aided A in deciding he should go with Tsunade. When she arrived to the battlefield she started by kicking Madara. She then healed Oonoki and Gaara who were near death. She healed Mei and refilled Mei's Chakra. She attacked Madara which allowed the kages to finally make some headway. She broke through a level one Susanoo. And defeated a Madara clone. She broke the Susanoo sword she was impaled with and attacked him with it creating an opening for Oonoki to attack. She tanked 3 Yasaka Magatamas. With two Susanoo swords impaling her she knocked out a Susanoo- Edo Madara clone. She gave more chakra to Oonoki so that he could do his large scale jinton.
  19. Her Taijutsu is powerful:
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    given Raikage's statment that her fighting style was getting sloppy one can infer she had just been stabbed and previous to that she was fighting more efficiently in a superior manner. From what we saw on that page she still was not fighting badly as she had just manhandled a Susanoo clone something only 2/5 kages were doing

Now she would lose to Oonoki because of Jinton
She would probably lose to Gaara because of ... the sand (I mean that is his main weapon)

However, in terms of A.
In one fight she has healed 3 kages back to seemingly perfect health and refilled their chakras. Donated additional chakra to Oonoki. Healed from Three Susanoo Swords, Three Yasaka Magatamas, a Katon, and The Heavenly Transfer Technique. She has fought five Susanoo clones at once at least putting one down. Took out the first Madara clone. Broke Susanoo.And proved her reaction time was good. People say she won't be able to hit A. For the most part I agree it will be difficult to land a hit on A.
But based on points 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, and 19 in the spoiler. I think it is possible for her to hit A.
In order to kill Tsunade you must exhaust her chakra reserves. Which seem to be similar to A's and if they are smaller are still large. We have seen A doesn't always use his lightening cloak in battle.
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Meaning he was either near his limit or that in tough battles he tries a different approach other than raiton armor. I don't see A exhausting Tsunade's chakra reserves with just taijutsu. I also don't see him exhausting chakra her reserves with one arm. Nor do I think he would go the whole battle without getting touched. And if she touches him while he has his raiton cloak off then he can fall prey to the Body Pathway derangement. Not to mention A doesn't have a counter for point 17.
Tsunade would beat Mei. Yes, Mei has 3 elements and a KKGK. But her lava has does not have speed feats. And given how Tsunade was able to respond to an attack before Mei could use a Suiton (as seen in point 14) I think she would be able to avoid Mei's lava and Suiton releases. Which really only leaves Mei's Doton and Katon's. But if Tsunade can tank Madara's Katon which was meant to burn 5 people, then Tsunade will probably be able to tank Mei's Katon. Because Mei has not been seen using katon or Dotons it serves to reason then that her strongest attacks are suitons which would make sense as Mizukage. But add to that that we've seen her use both kkgk then it serves to reason Katon and Doton are not her preferred elements. And as we've not seen a her use a Doton we don't know the extent to which the Dotons are dangerous. Mei's acid wouldn't really be a problem. We've seen her acid burn skin,
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but considering how well Tsunade handled Madara's Katon, I don't see the acid being a game changer here.
So point 15 works against Mei .
You might say the Hidden Mist Jutsu but seeing how high we've seen Tsunade jump (when she jumped more than Gamabunta's total height while still holding his sword) getting out of the mist shouldn't be a problem. In addition, she could just summon Katsuyu to lift her out of the reach of the mist. And Mei hasn't actually shown any sort of tracking abilities.

there nothing to say......:ice:
just try to save me in my grave ( i'm still alive though, just burried)
 

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Hahahahaha Tsunade could beat a few kages....

Tsunade vs Mei-There is no way that Mei is faster than tsunade cause we have proof that tsunades pretty fast(jumping and protecting the kages before Mei could make a hand sign) and WTF CAN MEI DO TO KATSUYU?!?!?

i also think she could beat
-Garaa
-4th Kazekage
-2nd mizukage
-yagura(maybe)
-Danzo(just put him here)
-old hiruzen
-Mei
-A(possibly with KATSUYU)
-3rd Kazekage(good chance)

so how could this TANK of a woman be the weakest kage?!?!?!?

also just think about this
-they have to deal with the situation being 1 direct hit from her is instant death
-she is a BEAST TANK
-she can mess up there body
-she can regenerate any damage done to her(ahe has IMMENSE chakra reserves to do this)
-she is decently fast
-SUMMON-that can spit ACID, create many smaller versions, and can tank PAINS ULTIMATE ATTACK!!!!, and be used to heal and share info
-PS-she fought Kabuto (who is about kakashi level) and would of won without all the HANDICAPS SHE HAD!!!!!
1.hasnt fought in 20 years
2.out of shape
3.fear of blood
4.KABUTO HAD TO TAKE PILLS TO HIMSELF STRONGER,FASTER,AND SMARTER!!!
5.he had information about her abilities from orochimaru
so beating someone that is HIGH JONNIN with 5 HANDICAPS is definatly at KAGE level....
(lets see mei do all that XD)
 

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Ok ok, I guess as a Tsunade fan, I should explain why Tsunade is not the weakest kage. She's the third strongest though the argument could be made that she is tied with A for Third Strongest.
But she's the most useful hands down.
  1. She utilizes involuntary reflexes:
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  2. She hits pressure points:
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  3. She uses shockwaves:
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    While the shockwaves are a product of her strength she has still been shown using the resultant shockwaves to her advantage to stop an attack.
  4. She is capable of offensive Medical Ninjutsu:
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    She would have no way to compare her and Kabuto's fighting style unless she had a similar style with her chakra scalpels
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  5. She is very aware of her surroundings:
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  6. She has extreme strength:Her strength is unparalleled. According to the databook and Naruto Wiki Tsunade naturally has monster strength. However she adds to her punches and kicks by building chakra in the body part that is going to make contact then releasing it as soon as contact is made... essentially it's chakra explosions. She took Orochimaru out with one punch when his body was fairly healthy. (not his arms but his body). In perspective a sick Oro withstood 4tails naruto attacks
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    Heavenly Kick of Pain (keeping in mind the feet are the most difficult place to gather chakra and she destroyed two buildings with the shockwave of her kick and created ample rubble to throw)
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    Just one finger
    Again in perspective naruto fell into the chasm created by one finger and his whole body fit inside of it
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    Tanzuka Town
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    Susanoo
    This cracked Susanoo
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    And this broke it
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    And this broke the sword
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    And this K.O.ed a level 2 Susanoo
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    Madara's clone
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    Gamabunta's Sword - Because this is not a strike and thus no chakra explosion this is her legendary strength unamplified
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    And According to the Naruto Wiki
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  7. She's intelligent: Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive.Even in battle she's shown intellect:
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    Apparently she messed up his nervous system which allowed her to attack, and to heal herself.
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    She resourcefully used the tools of her surrounding to defeat Manda with one move. She just put Orochimaru in check.
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    She just put Orochimaru in Check Mate by ensuring he had no choice but to take the full brunt of her punch. She decided to end the battle with one punch.
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    She figured out exactly where Kabuto was going to attack, dodged, and counter attacked.
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    She was well aware of the potential damage done by a complete rasengan and decided not to tank the jutsu but to diffuse the power before it even reached her.
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    She completely disarmed him and attacked a pressure point and calculated his appropriate reactions
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    She must have calculated the force necesssary to send Naruto away and making him feel pain in conjunction to how much force to put into throwing the kunai in order to make sure she didn't kill him but scare him and make realize she could've killed him. And the timing necessary for the dramatics.
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    Healing the other kages was a very bad idea because Oonoki was on his death bed.... This was a great a move.
    Just from the rules of medical ninja you can tell she understands warfare and battle strategy.
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    I know you may try to use this as a counter-argument
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    But all of the kage were tricked, WE don't even know when he switched himself with a clone, he said he was the only person able to see through the wood clone, and Tsunade had enough sense to prepare Byakougou in advance in case she should be surprised by something.
    This was also intelligent
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    As you can see it actually pierced Susanoo
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    but she used the attack as a distraction
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    And as Tsunade points out they did force Madara into a position where the wood clone he used was necessary.
  8. Huge Chakra Reserves: I think this point really expresses itself. Being a Senju and being gifted with the Senju body of the Sage and the Uzumaki longevity she has been granted a lot of chakra which is how she healed the entire village during Pein's attack twice or how she could heal from the Heavenly transfer technique, heal 3 kages back to 100% attack Madara and regenerate her stomach, organs and spine thrice(3 Yasaka Magatama and 3Susanoo Sword) when Kabuto couldn't heal from the damage of a rasengan. Then still having the chakra to turn Oonoki's Jinton into Jinton on steroids.
  9. She has Precise Chakra Control: Once again fairly self explanatory and I think her yin seal proves it. In addition to her strength. And the fact that she is heralded as the greatest Medical Ninja in the world and medical ninjutsu is known to require precise chakra control, or how she is able to use more than one technique at once (Transformation+Byakougou+Chakra Enhanced Strength)
  10. She can use Body Pathway Derangement: This technique would disable nearly anyone who does not have a lightening cloak. Kabuto was a prodigy and it took him some time to figure out how to move. Should she use this technique she could smash her opponent while they were unable to move or you know slit their throat.
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  11. She attacks with more than just her fist and feet:
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  12. She is capable of blitzing:
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  13. She can knock people out without using her strength:
    If Tsunade had used her strength Shizune would have flown backwards.
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  14. She is not slow:
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    Here she protects Naruto three times with great speed as no one saw her get into position to protect him they only saw her getting hit (these were her out of combat and still terrorized by blood)
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    Notice where she starts and Jiraiya only gets to form one hand seal before the blade is there
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    In this image Mei didn't have enough time to respond to Madara's Katon, nor did the other kages have any time to react yet Tsunade effectively protected her team.
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  15. She is incredibly durable:
    Sword of Kusanagi:
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    Three Yasaka Magatamas
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    Cut abdomen and Bicep Muscles
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    Shinra Tensei Full Powered
    • Here she is healing the village and the seal in unbroken.
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    • Here she is talking to Pein after she's healed the village. The seal is still unbroken (using multiple pictures to show its not a mistake like when Kishi accidently gave raikage back his arm)
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    • This is Tsunade chasing after Pein to stop him, making her closer to the initial point of contact for Shinra Tensei FP - seal unbroken
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    • This is Tsunade after Shinra Tensei hits -no seal
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      What's even more impressive is that she didn't use Creation Rebirth on herself as she's bleeding.
    • Tsunade used Katsuya to protect the other villagers but there is not Katsuyu with her.
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    • Bearing in mind Tsunade has already expended a lot of chakra to heal the villagers, then tanking a full Shinra Tensei up close in personal is quite a feat.
    • And she had the stamina to climb from under the collaspbed building and beat the Anbu to the scene
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      before ... being blitzed.
    • So My point being after healing the village, and summoning Katsuyu (which as Jiraiya and Naruto showed us requires a bit of chakra to summon large creatures)
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      she tanked Shinra Tensei and rehealed the village.
  16. Capable of visually keeping up with A and Naruto
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    Though I will grant you that the manga is vague on this point.
  17. Katsuyu- I think Katsuya is underated. No she isn't really a battle slug but consider this a hundred of those kid-sized katsuyas spitting acid. Or given how Tsunade was able to heal the village through Katsuya and she was going to kill Orochimaru with Medical Ninjutsu if a small katsuya a few inches long is stuck on an opponent Tsunade needs only to channel the technique through Katsuya to kill an opponent. I can see Tsunade inacting this jutsu while multitasking as she always holds the jutsu that keeps her looking young, while using augmented monster strength, while using forbidden jutsus, or how she keeps up her technique while she heals.In addition to the obvious fact that Katsuya can crush people. This is the crushing power of one of her minis
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    . She could mulitply into a huge amount of slugs keep in mind it split into enough slugs that it could heal nearly every person in the hidden leave village, that is a great feat and each of those slugs can spit acid which would burn through skin as it burned through rock a feat not even Mei's Boil release has. And Note the quantity of acid produced
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    This will either kill the opponent or leave an opening Tsunade to attack. And Katsuyu can be used to heal a mass number of people in addition to being able to be used to instantly relay information from several areas at once and allowing Tsunade to either sense or see what Katsuyu sees.
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    . In addition stab and slice techniques are ineffective against katsuyu
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    and her sheer size will render most elemental releases moot
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  18. She's experienced with war: Apparently Tsunade is the reason Konoha won the second Ninja war.
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    She lived during and possibly fought in the third Ninja war. She is a large reason the Allied Shinobi forces is winning this war.Tsunade's help began when she taught Sakura. In all honesty Sakura has actually played a rather important role in the war. When Zetsu invaded the camp she was able to see through his disguise and neutralize him. If Sakura had not done this he could have assassinated the medical corps within that group. And if there are no medical ninja not only would the army suffer more fatal injuries but they would suffer more so from fatigue. Furthermore Tsunade summoned Katsuyu. Katsuyu has been used to distribute information from battlefield to battlefield instantly. Which is invaluable in war. Tsunade decided to allow Naruto and Bee to pass then helped persuade A to allow pass. She decided she was going to war, decided how she was going to get there, and how to transport Mei to the battlefield. Which aided A in deciding he should go with Tsunade. When she arrived to the battlefield she started by kicking Madara. She then healed Oonoki and Gaara who were near death. She healed Mei and refilled Mei's Chakra. She attacked Madara which allowed the kages to finally make some headway. She broke through a level one Susanoo. And defeated a Madara clone. She broke the Susanoo sword she was impaled with and attacked him with it creating an opening for Oonoki to attack. She tanked 3 Yasaka Magatamas. With two Susanoo swords impaling her she knocked out a Susanoo- Edo Madara clone. She gave more chakra to Oonoki so that he could do his large scale jinton.
  19. Her Taijutsu is powerful:
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    given Raikage's statment that her fighting style was getting sloppy one can infer she had just been stabbed and previous to that she was fighting more efficiently in a superior manner. From what we saw on that page she still was not fighting badly as she had just manhandled a Susanoo clone something only 2/5 kages were doing

Now she would lose to Oonoki because of Jinton
She would probably lose to Gaara because of ... the sand (I mean that is his main weapon)

However, in terms of A.
In one fight she has healed 3 kages back to seemingly perfect health and refilled their chakras. Donated additional chakra to Oonoki. Healed from Three Susanoo Swords, Three Yasaka Magatamas, a Katon, and The Heavenly Transfer Technique. She has fought five Susanoo clones at once at least putting one down. Took out the first Madara clone. Broke Susanoo.And proved her reaction time was good. People say she won't be able to hit A. For the most part I agree it will be difficult to land a hit on A.
But based on points 3, 5, 7, 11, 14, and 19 in the spoiler. I think it is possible for her to hit A.
In order to kill Tsunade you must exhaust her chakra reserves. Which seem to be similar to A's and if they are smaller are still large. We have seen A doesn't always use his lightening cloak in battle.
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Meaning he was either near his limit or that in tough battles he tries a different approach other than raiton armor. I don't see A exhausting Tsunade's chakra reserves with just taijutsu. I also don't see him exhausting chakra her reserves with one arm. Nor do I think he would go the whole battle without getting touched. And if she touches him while he has his raiton cloak off then he can fall prey to the Body Pathway derangement. Not to mention A doesn't have a counter for point 17.
Tsunade would beat Mei. Yes, Mei has 3 elements and a KKGK. But her lava has does not have speed feats. And given how Tsunade was able to respond to an attack before Mei could use a Suiton (as seen in point 14) I think she would be able to avoid Mei's lava and Suiton releases. Which really only leaves Mei's Doton and Katon's. But if Tsunade can tank Madara's Katon which was meant to burn 5 people, then Tsunade will probably be able to tank Mei's Katon. Because Mei has not been seen using katon or Dotons it serves to reason then that her strongest attacks are suitons which would make sense as Mizukage. But add to that that we've seen her use both kkgk then it serves to reason Katon and Doton are not her preferred elements. And as we've not seen a her use a Doton we don't know the extent to which the Dotons are dangerous. Mei's acid wouldn't really be a problem. We've seen her acid burn skin,
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but considering how well Tsunade handled Madara's Katon, I don't see the acid being a game changer here.
So point 15 works against Mei .
You might say the Hidden Mist Jutsu but seeing how high we've seen Tsunade jump (when she jumped more than Gamabunta's total height while still holding his sword) getting out of the mist shouldn't be a problem. In addition, she could just summon Katsuyu to lift her out of the reach of the mist. And Mei hasn't actually shown any sort of tracking abilities.

get your facts straight tsunade would never loose to oonoki jinton she maybe slower than A but she's very fast she's the second fastest among the kages right now. she can just dodge oonoki's jinton like nothing n dont think because she only uses katsuyu states that she only has one slug. i hope when the rest of the kages die and fifth hokage is the last one to go one on one with madara you ppl will pay her the respect she deserves. gaara is very weak; he even got beaten by deidara the weakest among the akatsuki, he may have a lot of jutsu than the other kages but he's still a child and lacks experience; the main thing to win a war, he needs to develop more jutsu to defeat tsunade. its not the amount of jutsu a shinobi wields that determines his/her strength, but the intelligence of how to defeat an enemy n the will to never give up. tsunade tends to pick up on her enemy weak spot real quick both gaara n Mei were the first to loose hope in the war so how can you say that shinobi can defeat tsunade ppl. furthermore if hokage wasn't around every and I MEAN EVERY OTHER KAGE WOULD OF DIED A LONG TIME AGO. the only 2 kages that can give her a hard time is oonoki and A n i know she can beat A because he's too hot headed/blunt he doesn't think before he attacks, he almost lost one of his leg to sasuke. riakage it only powerful because of his speed if tsunade finds away to cancel that (slows him down the battle his over)
 

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i don't care , she got big OO

i love her for that
 

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Right now it goes

1.Onoki
2. A
3.Tsunade
4.Garaa
5.Mei
 
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