Tsunade is the strongest female in Naruto.

Itachi75

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Feb 11, 2013
Messages
3,281
Reaction score
325
1. Mei/tsunade
2. Tsunade/mee
3. hinata/temari
4. Temari/hinata
5. Tenten
6. Sakura.
 

Bieber

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 4, 2013
Messages
3,665
Reaction score
292
You are so wrong. :/

Exactly how? Tsunade can't hit her.

Gai stunned the Saiken with Asa Kujaku; a couple of thousand paper bombs can take care of Katsuyu. Not unless you think Katsuyu is stronger than a tailed beast. Tsunade can regenerate but, if her limbs are cut off she won't be recovering.

Also if Tsunade loses too much chakra Katsuyu disappears. So am I "so wrong"?
 

Itachi75

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Feb 11, 2013
Messages
3,281
Reaction score
325
ignore my above post my internets slow and i can't delete it
 

Bantos

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
7,182
Reaction score
391
Exactly how? Tsunade can't hit her.

Gai stunned the Saiken with Asa Kujaku; a couple of thousand paper bombs can take care of Katsuyu. Not unless you think Katsuyu is stronger than a tailed beast. Tsunade can regenerate but, if her limbs are cut off she won't be recovering.

Also if Tsunade loses too much chakra Katsuyu disappears. So am I "so wrong"?

Konan has NOTHING she can use against Tsunade that would actually kill her. And besides we have seen only ONCE that she even uses paper bombs, and that was in the jutsu that required years of planning. And Tsunade can always let Katsuyu absorb herself and just stay inside her and let Katsuyu kill Konan.
I do believe that Katsuyu is more durable than a bijuu. Not stronger, but can take more damage.
 

Joshutsu

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 19, 2012
Messages
6,563
Reaction score
396
Tsunade is the strongest hands down, no question. Soon hopefully Sakura would have officially taken her place. She would be happy about that anyways.
 

Bieber

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Apr 4, 2013
Messages
3,665
Reaction score
292
Konan has NOTHING she can use against Tsunade that would actually kill her. And besides we have seen only ONCE that she even uses paper bombs, and that was in the jutsu that required years of planning. And Tsunade can always let Katsuyu absorb herself and just stay inside her and let Katsuyu kill Konan.
I do believe that Katsuyu is more durable than a bijuu. Not stronger, but can take more damage.

I'm pretty sure Konan's paper shurikens can cut Tsunades arms/legs off with ease. Tsunade isn't immortal and byakugou has a limit, Konan can wait it out or cut her up into pieces. It doesn't take years of planning to get 10,000 paper bombs especially when you are "made" of paper. Katsuyu splits if she gets cut; she's a fairly large summon so, making her split will take no effort. Don't underestimate Konan's ability to fly and split up into paper either; acid isn't going to hit her.

It's idiotic to think Katsuyu is more durable than Saiken. The only thing she "tanked" was a pushing force and rocks falling on her. Like I said though if Tsunade uses too much chakra say bye to Katsuyu.
 

Tazzilla88

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
2,505
Reaction score
302
YHHH iknow but she is the only female to ever almost defeat obito. if tsunade had faced obito instead he wouldve smacked her seconds

Because A>B>C logic is a valid way to compare strength? Because Gamabunta's oil alone wouldn't clustfu*k Konan.
It's about matchups so spouting that same A>B>C argument is ridiculous.

Nextly if I really wanted to go in I'd point out Konan died from a kunai stab as opposed to the woman who survived her actual body being cut in half.

And in terms of overall prowess Tsunade is the victor

In terms of a toe to toe fight, it's a battle of attrition. And its down to who has the best stamina feats.
 

Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Apr 8, 2013
Messages
5,773
Reaction score
397
Because A>B>C logic is a valid way to compare strength? Because Gamabunta's oil alone wouldn't clustfu*k Konan.
It's about matchups so spouting that same A>B>C argument is ridiculous.

Nextly if I really wanted to go in I'd point out Konan died from a kunai stab as opposed to the woman who survived her actual body being cut in half.

And in terms of overall prowess Tsunade is the victor

In terms of a toe to toe fight, it's a battle of attrition. And its down to who has the best stamina feats.

funny how you consider ABC logic invalid and still use it
Oro > being cut in half > Tsunade > Oro (yeah she didn't die but became unable to fight Karin had to restore her)

in the terms of physical power
 

Tazzilla88

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
2,505
Reaction score
302
seeing that naruto could do a miniature version of a tbb long before he fully controlled it.

yugito > tsunade, unless tsunade finds a way to tank a tbb.
Naruto didn't develop TBB until 4 tails. Yugito has 2 tails. The one tails when he had complete control did not use TBBs he used an elemental jutsu similar to it. So in her unmastered state she has less chakra to create the mini TBB that Naruto did. In fact the idea of two tailed Naruto using TBB seems ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure Konan's paper shurikens can cut Tsunades arms/legs off with ease. Tsunade isn't immortal and byakugou has a limit, Konan can wait it out or cut her up into pieces. It doesn't take years of planning to get 10,000 paper bombs especially when you are "made" of paper. Katsuyu splits if she gets cut; she's a fairly large summon so, making her split will take no effort. Don't underestimate Konan's ability to fly and split up into paper either; acid isn't going to hit her.

It's idiotic to think Katsuyu is more durable than Saiken. The only thing she "tanked" was a pushing force and rocks falling on her. Like I said though if Tsunade uses too much chakra say bye to Katsuyu.
What real durability feats does Saiken have dear?
Katsuyu
1. Cutting has no effect on her
2. She withstood the corrosive chakra of the 9 tails
3. She withstood Chou Shinra Tensei... you know that jutsu that destroyed a whole city when Bunta was taken out by a much weaker shinra tensei
4.She endured the pressure from Chibaku Tensei.
I would also add that Katsuyu is the size of a bijuu so what does you're argument really come down to?
And I would tell you that Saiken didn't show hirself to have the same properties that Katsuyu has so you can't really say because Saiken couldn't do this therefore Katsuyu can't do this. That's like me saying during the Chuunin exam because Sakura was smarter than Sasuke and she might not have scored a 100, Sasuke obviously could not have scored a 100. But that's not true because his sharingan allowed him to copy answers from people who knew the answers. The difference in abilities though one seemed superior in one regard, is what made the difference.

Also whose arms and legs did Konan cut off? Your saying her paper has a certain amount of power that we haven't really seen from metal shuriken that have been thrown. And you're assuming Tsunade's going to stand there going "herp de dur heh heh te papaz be flyin' at meh" She's going to be able to evade the same way she was able to drunkenly evade Naruto's shuriken and the same way she avoided Kabuto's kunai without looking.

I think your forgetting nothing says Katsuyu has to split apart if something cuts her, and if she does split apart she can come back together at will.
funny how you consider ABC logic invalid and still use it
Oro > being cut in half > Tsunade > Oro (yeah she didn't die but became unable to fight Karin had to restore her)

in the terms of physical power
How exactly did I use A>B>C logic. I didn't. I was making a point that matchups were what was relevant and you misinterpreted. So shut that down.

Karin wouldn't have had to restore Tsunade's chakra if Tsunade only concerned herself with her own wounds. But no, she helped the other 4 kage who were mortally wounded as well. So she was treating herself, the 4 other mortally wounded kage, while maintaining her summoning jutsu.
No overall prowess as a shinobi.
If you can create a thread that rivals (my no longer accurate [ ] because of newer feats) that shows how Konan has the same or even greater prowess than Tsunade then fine. But I doubt you can.
 
Last edited:

Bantos

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Feb 12, 2013
Messages
7,182
Reaction score
391
I'm pretty sure Konan's paper shurikens can cut Tsunades arms/legs off with ease. Tsunade isn't immortal and byakugou has a limit, Konan can wait it out or cut her up into pieces. It doesn't take years of planning to get 10,000 paper bombs especially when you are "made" of paper. Katsuyu splits if she gets cut; she's a fairly large summon so, making her split will take no effort. Don't underestimate Konan's ability to fly and split up into paper either; acid isn't going to hit her.

It's idiotic to think Katsuyu is more durable than Saiken. The only thing she "tanked" was a pushing force and rocks falling on her. Like I said though if Tsunade uses too much chakra say bye to Katsuyu.

And Saiken sure has a lot of durability feats right? Tsunade would just hide in Katsuyu and let the slug kill Konan. Konan loses to Katsuyu. Even without Tsunade. ._.
 

Erin

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
4,164
Reaction score
665
Naruto didn't develop TBB until 4 tails. Yugito has 2 tails. The one tails when he had complete control did not use TBBs he used an elemental jutsu similar to it. So in her unmastered state she has less chakra to create the mini TBB that Naruto did. In fact the idea of two tailed Naruto using TBB seems ridiculous.
1. Yugito's two tails in the maxed out tailed beast form, naruto wasn't even half maxed and he could use it.
2. Has shikaku ever been known to use a tbb? The jutsu wasn't even introduced until part 2.
3. You must be joking, 2 tails naruto isn't the same as the full nibi, by your logic the 2 tails can't use a tbb at all, yet she did. Yugito has already shown a transformation into the complete nibi, while she was living, so she can definitely use it.
 
Last edited:

Tazzilla88

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
2,505
Reaction score
302
1. Yugito's two tails in the maxed out tailed beast form, naruto wasn't even half maxed and he could use it.
2. Has shikaku ever been known to use a tbb? The jutsu wasn't even introduced until part 2.
3. You must be joking, 2 tails naruto isn't the same as the full nibi, by your logic the 2 tails can't use a tbb at all, yet she did. Yugito has already shown a transformation into the complete nibi, so she can definitely use it.

My point was not that he had the same power at two tails, but that she wouldn't have the necessary power in her unperfected form. She really wouldn't. If we compare his 4tails TBB to his final TBB no comparison
Now her the two tails final TBB is less 1/7 as strong as Naruto's final TBB considering they collided.
Now if we take the math and know that he couldn't do a TBB until he was in BM, or a mindless fighting machine we know she would have had to lose complete control of herself before she is capable of doing a TBB. And when do you think she can no longer handle the two tails' chakra? We know if she could actually make TBB's that she couldn't do it consciously. And even then it would be significantly weaker to Naruto's mini TBB because he had more chakra to give in his unconscious state than she did.
 

Erin

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
4,164
Reaction score
665
My point was not that he had the same power at two tails, but that she wouldn't have the necessary power in her unperfected form. She really wouldn't. If we compare his 4tails TBB to his final TBB no comparison
Now her the two tails final TBB is less 1/7 as strong as Naruto's final TBB considering they collided.
Now if we take the math and know that he couldn't do a TBB until he was in BM, or a mindless fighting machine we know she would have had to lose complete control of herself before she is capable of doing a TBB. And when do you think she can no longer handle the two tails' chakra? We know if she could actually make TBB's that she couldn't do it consciously. And even then it would be significantly weaker to Naruto's mini TBB because he had more chakra to give in his unconscious state than she did.
1. No, a tbb is a tbb, it's a condensed ball of chakra, we have seen exactly how much damage the nibi's tbb's can do, and it still makes a large crater.
Yugito could control the full nibi, meaning she could use all of it's powers, and of those, it's proven she can use a tbb, we have see exactly how powerful the nibi's tailed beast bombs are and one would be enough to vaporize tsunade.

There is nothing else to it, there is nothing restricting a full tailed beast from using a tbb.
 

Tazzilla88

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
2,505
Reaction score
302
1. No, a tbb is a tbb, it's a condensed ball of chakra, we have seen exactly how much damage the nibi's tbb's can do, and it still makes a large crater.
Yugito could control the full nibi, meaning she could use all of it's powers, and of those, it's proven she can use a tbb, we have see exactly how powerful the nibi's tailed beast bombs are and one would be enough to vaporize tsunade.

There is nothing else to it, there is nothing restricting a full tailed beast from using a tbb.

This is blatantly false. What she did was produce a mode similar two that of the Nibi but it was only slightly larger than Hidan. Let's not overexxagerate in order to make her seem better than she really was.
Also let's talk about what a TBB is, it is a Rasengan that uses yin and yang chakra. That's all it is. And if she could and that's a big if, considering how pitiful her Nibi looked in comparison to the actual Nibi, it would be a pretty sad TBB. But nothing suggests she could use a TBB.
 

Erin

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Jan 15, 2013
Messages
4,164
Reaction score
665
This is blatantly false. What she did was produce a mode similar two that of the Nibi but it was only slightly larger than Hidan. Let's not overexxagerate in order to make her seem better than she really was.
Also let's talk about what a TBB is, it is a Rasengan that uses yin and yang chakra. That's all it is. And if she could and that's a big if, considering how pitiful her Nibi looked in comparison to the actual Nibi, it would be a pretty sad TBB. But nothing suggests she could use a TBB.

slightly larger than hidan?

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

please stop.

The nibi was half the size of the full one, meaning that the tbb would just be 1/2 as potent.
 
Last edited:

nandachikara

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Dec 15, 2012
Messages
10,673
Reaction score
101
tsunade is strong but how is she going to deal with mei's lava and boil release is she going to punch it common.
 

TheEvilOne

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jan 31, 2013
Messages
14,251
Reaction score
689
slightly larger than hidan?

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

please stop.

The nibi was half the size of the full one, meaning that the tbb would just be 1/2 as potent.

Yes, actually its slightly larger. It's as big as the maxi Katsuyu [ ] [ ] who protected Tsunade.
A Bijuu is slightly bigger than the Sannin's boss summons.
This wasn't even the half of the Niibi, maybe not even its quarter.
 
Top