Tsunade is Slow.

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Part 1 Kabuto is faster than her. They're even in the data book but the manga comes prove my point with clear and obvious evidences.
 

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I'm not calling her a fanboy because she disagrees with me but because she's blaming the plot for Tsunade being slow. The plot is canon anyway , as said earlier.
If she is a girl shouldn't she be called a fangirl??
And the fact that she had a hangover might be a reason for slow reflexes you can't deny that.
In that fight all three of them had a handicap .
 

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Part 1 Kabuto is faster than her. They're even in the data book but the manga comes prove my point with clear and obvious evidences.

Ok, what if he is? He is fast.
 

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If she is a girl shouldn't she be called a fangirl??
And the fact that she had a hangover might be a reason for slow reflexes you can't deny that.
In that fight all three of them had a handicap .

You can say that she had a hangover but I can also say that Kabuto wasn't even trying.
Both of them had handicap and it seems Kabuto was better in every ways.

Ok, what if he is? He is fast.

I know he is but that is still kinda pathetic to get defeated by part 1 Kabuto and becoming Hokage like 1 week later.
 

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Some just thinks she can evade Amaterasu and Minato's blinks... She isn't even nearly as fast as raikage. If he is 10, she is 2-3 max.

Also, the databook is not made to compare character stats. You can find 10 characters with same "speed", but are they really equal? No they aren't. The databook is made to measure shinobi potential. Oro has 5 in genjutsu, but he doesn't use any genjutsu. It simply means, he is as good as genjutsu, as he can be.

Lee has same speed as Kiba, surely Lee is faster than Kiba with the gates. Also Databook does not account for blood line abilities, etc., it just says, how good a person is, in a certain ability. So when Hiruzen is low in stamina, it is to explain us that he was once better. It explains, what a character needs to improve, and what abilities he has mastered. Like 5 in ninjutsu, doesn't make you better than any other with 3 in ninjutsu. The ninjutsu each char uses can be completely different, thus it just means that the one with 5 has mastered the ninjutsu he uses. Tsunade has 5, because she masters medical ninjutsu. It doesn't mean she is as good at ninjutsu as Kakashi.
 

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You can say that she had a hangover but I can also say that Kabuto wasn't even trying.
Both of them had handicap and it seems Kabuto was better in every ways.
I know he is but that is still kinda pathetic to get defeated by part 1 Kabuto and becoming Hokage like 1 week later.
The thread was about Tsunade being slow.Being slower than Kabuto doesn't mean she is slow in general.And we are talking about current Tsunade not part one Tsunade.
Kabuto doesn't have anything to do with that thread.
Apparently the term fanboy is more suitable for you.
 

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The thread was about Tsunade being slow.Being slower than Kabuto doesn't mean she is slow in general.And we are talking about current Tsunade not part one Tsunade.
Kabuto doesn't have anything to do with that thread.
Apparently the term fanboy is more suitable for you.



Frankly we're here comparing the speed of an Hokage to the speed of a high jonin level ninja. The fact that she is slower than a jonin level ninja being an Hokage pretty much gives you the answer about this thread.
Apparently you don't know the definition of the word fanboy. Here's a dictionary next time don't throw out words when you obviously ignore their meanings.

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Strengh > Speed
Speed > hand signs
Brain > all
 
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Look at the difference of where she was.. and how fast she responded.. even in a deadly state.

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Thats how fast she is.
 

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Frankly we're here comparing the speed of an Hokage to the speed of a high jonin level ninja. The fact that she is slower than a jonin level ninja being an Hokage pretty much gives you the answer about this thread.
Apparently you don't know the definition of the word fanboy. Here's a dictionary next time don't throw out words when you obviously ignore their meanings.

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Being Hokage doesn't mean you surpass everyone in the village in every single area.

Jonin's like kurenai (most likely mid jonin at best) > A in Genjutsu, Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the title of Kage just because a Jonin surpasses him in an Area or two.

Kabuto being faster than tsunades does nothing to her Hokage title nor does it mean she deserves it less.
 

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Being Hokage doesn't mean you surpass everyone in the village in every single area.

Jonin's like kurenai (most likely mid jonin at best) > A in Genjutsu, Doesn't mean he doesn't deserve the title of Kage just because a Jonin surpasses him in an Area or two.

Kabuto being faster than tsunades does nothing to her Hokage title nor does it mean she deserves it less.

What about the fact that she is weaker than part 1 Kabuto? Not only he surpasses her in speed but also in overall fighting skills. How does she deserve the Kage title? ;)
 

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Frankly we're here comparing the speed of an Hokage to the speed of a high jonin level ninja. The fact that she is slower than a jonin level ninja being an Hokage pretty much gives you the answer about this thread.
Apparently you don't know the definition of the word fanboy. Here's a dictionary next time don't throw out words when you obviously ignore their meanings.
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Well Gai is a jonin and has better speed than Tsunade.That means that he is overall better than Tsunade and she is not worthy as a kage??You are taking aside so many variables that made Tsunade handicapped in that fight when they are clearly revealed in the manga.
You should use that dictionary to find the definition of slow.In her stats she has 3.5/5.That's average.If your brain cant comprehend simple maths I am really sorry for you.
 

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What about the fact that she is weaker than part 1 Kabuto? Not only he surpasses her in speed but also in overall fighting skills. How does she deserve the Kage title? ;)

You mean like Kabuto needing to nake a soldier pill inorder to fight her
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Him also having to go for her phobia of blood in order to fight her
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For such a "high-jonin" as you class him to take such care in fighting an Old out of shape lady who gave up being a shinobi years ago.
 

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Well Gai is a jonin and has better speed than Tsunade.That means that he is overall better than Tsunade and she is not worthy as a kage??You are taking aside so many variables that made Tsunade handicapped in that fight when they are clearly revealed in the manga.
You should use that dictionary to find the definition of slow.In her stats she has 3.5/5.That's average.If your brain cant comprehend simple maths I am really sorry for you.


Not only she is slow but she is also weak overall.
Lol, Tsunade was slightly handicapped but Kabuto wasn't even going all out, he was toying with her. This right here shows how weak she is as a fighter.

Yes 3.5 is slow considering she doesn't have anything else besides physical strength.

Go ahead kid I enjoy owning noobs like you

You mean like Kabuto needing to nake a soldier pill inorder to fight her
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Him also having to go for her phobia of blood in order to fight her
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For such a "high-jonin" as you class him to take such care in fighting an Old out of shape lady who gave up being a shinobi years ago.


So many wrong things in one reply... Oh my god poor guy I got to guide you.

First, soldier pills are legit combat items, find something else.

Second, he was trashing her even before resorting to use her blood phobia against her, again find something else.

Yes he really did own her, thank you for helping me proving my point.
 
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Not only she is slow but she is also weak overall.
Lol, Tsunade was slightly handicapped but Kabuto wasn't even going all out, he was toying with her. This right here shows how weak she is as a fighter.
Yes 3.5 is slow considering she doesn't have anything else besides physical strength.
Go ahead kid I enjoy owning noobs like you
So many wrong things in one reply... Oh my god poor guy I got to guide you.
First, soldier pills are legit combat items, find something else.
Second, he was trashing her even before resorting to use her blood phobia against her, again find something else.
Yes he really did own her, thank you for helping me proving my point.
Toying her??The same Kabuto that was fodderized by Naruto base part one??
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The only thing he could do is take advantage of her weakness.After this Tsunade got it together took 3 hits with kusanagi blade,heal herself and went in a fight with Oro.How's that weak??
Stop dickriding Kabuto that's Orochimaru's job.
 

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So many wrong things in one reply... Oh my god poor guy I got to guide you.

First, soldier pills are legit combat items, find something else.

Second, he was trashing her even before resorting to use her blood phobia against her, again find something else.

Yes he really did own her, thank you for helping me proving my point.

Be it Legit Items or not, he still an "enhancement" to fight her, Even though he is such a "High level jonin"

Also Yeah he completely owned her
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Punching him here, When she could've quite easily hit him with a chakra enhanced punch and kill him out right.
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As Oro stated right here that one hit would kill him
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Befor taking your time to Guide me, You should try to take youself of your arrogant high horse.
 

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Toying her??The same Kabuto that was fodderized by Naruto base part one??
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The only thing he could do is take advantage of her weakness.After this Tsunade got it together took 3 hits with kusanagi blade,heal herself and went in a fight with Oro.How's that weak??
Stop dickriding Kabuto that's Orochimaru's job.


Nope if you read the entire reply you would understand that I clearly said that Kabuto was trashing her even before resorting to use her blood phobia against her.
The manga page you just posted shows Kabuto after getting hit by a rasengan, what are you trying to prove here kid? It's Naruto who did it. Want me to show you the manga page after she was getting stabbed multiple times by Oro?
Lol yeah, Kabuto spared her life then she went into a fight vs Oro and got trashed again.
She is weak deal with it. Facts are facts.
 
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I'll also add this, She didn't even use Summoning.

I would like to see your views on how Kabuto gets past/defeats Katsuyu.
 

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Be it Legit Items or not, he still an "enhancement" to fight her, Even though he is such a "High level jonin"

Also Yeah he completely owned her
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Punching him here, When she could've quite easily hit him with a chakra enhanced punch and kill him out right.
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As Oro stated right here that one hit would kill him
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Befor taking your time to Guide me, You should try to take youself of your arrogant high horse.

What would be the point of taking soldier pills if it wasn't an enhancement? He beat her legitimetaly, quit whining, and he didn't even go all out.

Rofl, You know what i find it funny? The manga page you just posted shows Kabuto saying that he wouldn't aim for her neck and kill her, in other words he spared her life.

The second manga page you showed where you're saying he could have supposely punched him is totally false. Actually she was in pain and injured trying to stand up , she couldn't have punched him.

Before you reply to me try to review your claims. All your argument here are weak and you're actually just proving me right instead of proving your point. Thank you again, I definitely start to think that you're on my side.
 
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