Tsunade is not a weak Senju

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he held his ground on this matter even after she used strength of the hundred, he only said that she's not that weak, but it still implies she's weak

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She's one of the weakest Kage, the 2nd weakest in this generation and the weakest Hokage of all time.

She still got the recognition, someone who isnt a fighter generally but took him on and he took his words back, that is enough for me even changing to shes not THAT weak comign from MADARA thats pretty sweet, sir.
 

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She still got the recognition, someone who isnt a fighter generally but took him on and he took his words back, that is enough for me even changing to shes not THAT weak comign from MADARA thats pretty sweet, sir.

She's still weak.. and yes she is a fighter, just because shes also a medic doesnt mean shes not a fighter. also youre forgetting the fact that Madara was toying with them he could have easily dodged that punch, he was mainly toying with them, especially with her.
 

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Yeah, shes a pretty boss medic, and she can switch to offence and help out if she has to.



Refer to my reasoning for the kabuto thing, she overcame his tricks and had him cornered going in for the kill he spills blood. and you knwo what comes next
The fact that she couldn't wipe the floor with base Kabuto like the other 2 Sannin would have speaks volumes.

-She is however, an awesome healer.
 

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Let the flames begin. People who don't like her, really can't put up any valid reasons why shes weak. -.-

If she were a male character, then the bandwagons would be pretty full.
 

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She's still weak.. and yes she is a fighter, just because shes also a medic doesnt mean shes not a fighter. also youre forgetting the fact that Madara was toying with them he could have easily dodged that punch, he was mainly toying with them, especially with her.

He was toying with them even more of a reason for him not to give her any recognition, he wanted to see what she got and she did something and he commented on it, medics don't fight generally which is why i say she isnt a fighter, her technique she used even more proves she is always thinking about the medical ninja rules, 'medic must be last to die on a team' her jutsu allows her to fight without the worry of dyign and leaving her teammates at the mercy of the enemy if they become injured.

The fact that she couldn't wipe the floor with base Kabuto like the other 2 Sannin would have speaks volumes.

-She is however, an awesome healer.

Plot my friend, naruto had to shine at some point in there, she isnt the main character. Naruto needed someone to show he completed the jutsu on, everyone always makes it look like kabuto had the upper hand straight through their 5 minute rumble, she held her own, someone said to be kakashi level would not have gone down easily against the sanin other than oro maybe even if it was part 1 kakashi he was being compared to, he showed skill.

ofc if you were in mid air you are open to attack (chakara scapel) and she still managed to do damage after being hit by such
 
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Tsunade only ever Punches and Kicks things seems pretty weak if you ask me.
 

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He was toying with them even more of a reason for him not to give her any recognition, he wanted to see what she got and she did something and he commented on it, medics don't fight generally which is why i say she isnt a fighter, her technique she used even more proves she is always thinking about the medical ninja rules, 'medic must be last to die on a team' her jutsu allows her to fight without the worry of dyign and leaving her teammates at the mercy of the enemy if they become injured.

Thanks for proving me right, she's not mainly fighter and that's one of the main reason why she's weak.
She's may be physically strong but the fact that Madara had to stand motionless for her to be able to show off her strength prove that she's weak.
 

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Tsunade only ever Punches and Kicks things seems pretty weak if you ask me.

Imagine if she used jutsu along with that? and shes already a boss female character

Thanks for proving me right, she's not mainly fighter and that's one of the main reason why she's weak.
She's may be physically strong but the fact that Madara had to stand still for her to be able to show off her strength prove that she's weak.

He clearly wasn't standing still, as he counteracted their attacks and she still managed to get in range to break his susano to pieces, i bet he didnt see her breaking his susano sword and using it against him coming either, toying with them doesn't mean he was using no effort, i'm sure you seen at the end of the fight when he unleashed some serious power to show them all just how strong he was.

kishi may have nerfed the kage but he wouldn't totally embarrass the 5 kage

Not being a fighter and still managing to hold your own against madara, his 5 susano clones, tanking an attack to defend the other 4 kage, cut in half still summon and presumably healed the other 4 kage is pretty impressive for a non fighter =D
 

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Because Senju are supposed to be stronger than Uchiha, but every relevant Uchiha are stronger than her.
 

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Imagine if she used jutsu along with that? and shes already a boss female character



He clearly wasn't standing still, as he counteracted their attacks and she still managed to get in range to break his susano to pieces, i bet he didnt see her breaking his susano sword and using it against him coming either, toying with them doesn't mean he was using no effort, i'm sure you seen at the end of the fight when he unleashed some serious power to show them all just how strong he was.

kishi may have nerfed the kage but he wouldn't totally embarrass the 5 kage

Not being a fighter and still managing to hold your own against madara, his 5 susano clones, tanking an attack to defend the other 4 kage, cut in half still summon and presumably healed the other 4 kage is pretty impressive for a non fighter =D


Yes, clearly he was standing still, look at the distance that was separating them, he was toying with her.

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I think you're forgetting that Tsunade wasn't alone fighting Madara.

You're also forgetting that she got humiliated by part 1 Kabuto.
 

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Plot my friend, naruto had to shine at some point in there, she isnt the main character. Naruto needed someone to show he completed the jutsu on, everyone always makes it look like kabuto had the upper hand straight through their 5 minute rumble, she held her own, someone said to be kakashi level would not have gone down easily against the sanin other than oro maybe even if it was part 1 kakashi he was being compared to, he showed skill.

ofc if you were in mid air you are open to attack (chakara scapel) and she still managed to do damage after being hit by such
Lol plot eh? Alright then fair enough ill leave it be since you already have enough debaters here. GL with the rest of the thread.

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Because Senju are supposed to be stronger than Uchiha, but every relevant Uchiha are stronger than her.

Stronger doesn't always mean who can win in a fight, some strengths lie elsewhere i was not hyping her totally on battle skill, alot of senju have died in war against the uchiha and wise versa it wasnt a one sided battle between clans ever.

Since when are senju suppose to be stronger than uchiha?

All relevant uchihas are assumed to be stronger than her, fine. If that is what you would like to believe i can't bring facts to how she could beat them. I'm sure if the situation occured she could handle a fight them the relevant ones, what is the difference between them and madara other than the fact they are weaker, she might not win but i mean thats a given in naruto, that big woman troll
 

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Yes, clearly he was standing still, look at the distance that was separating them, he was toying with her.

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I think you're forgetting that Tsunade wasn't alone fighting Madara.

You're also forgetting that she got humiliated by part 1 Kabuto.

I was referring to after this scene when he followed up with a katon.

She wasnt humiliated by that punk kabuto, she was humiliated because of her hemophbia. He knew it was over when he resorted to using her fear against her. pfft.
 
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But out of all Hokages, she's the weakest.
she owns tobirama and hiruzen

She's one of the weakest Kage, the 2nd weakest in this generation and the weakest Hokage of all time.
nope. shes one of the strongest in all categories you mentioned. incomparable in healing and medical ninjutsu. she owns tobirama



youre forgetting the fact that Madara was toying with them he could have easily dodged that punch, he was mainly toying with them, especially with her
madara doesnt find any joy in fighting weaklings. toying is the last thing he wants. he wants to be able to test his jutsus

Very diluted senju = Very diluted power
you mean massively high power

Tsunade is the weakest senju no doubt lol
theres only 3 known senjus so the pool your selecting from is low

Tsunade=Sakura with bigger boobs and btw she couldnt beat Kabuto before he got sage mode pretty pathetic for a hokage
she wasnt hokage yet, and she was in fact beating him till he used her weakness on her. which she overcame in that very fight

she's weak compared to Tobirama
what the **** has he ever done?
 

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I was referring to after this seen when he followed up with a katon.

She wasnt humiliated by that punk kabuto, she was humiliated because of her hemophbia. He knew it was over when he resorted to using her fear against her. pfft.

Yes I have already refuted that, she wasnt alone fighting madara, madara was busy attacking mei and onoki and the raikage had also helped.

Last time I checked there was no such thing as an unfair match, you do know that exploiting the enemy's weakness is what ninjas are supposed to do in a fight right? He destroyed her fair in square.
 

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The fact that she couldn't wipe the floor with base Kabuto like the other 2 Sannin would have speaks volumes.
the fact she was rusty, mentally messed up, and saving chakra to take on orochimaru, and his snakes might have something to do with it
You're also forgetting that she got humiliated by part 1 Kabuto.
you mean kicked his ass till he sprayed blood on her. and that was while she was rusty, unfocused and saving chakra for orochimaru. and thats part 1 tsunade. much much weaker than tsunade now
Tsunade only ever Punches and Kicks things seems pretty weak if you ask me.
and summons slugs that spit acid. and fries peoples nerves. and makes poison. and heals any injury. also gai only punches and kicks too
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Thanks for proving me right, she's not mainly fighter and that's one of the main reason why she's weak.
She's may be physically strong but the fact that Madara had to stand still for her to be able to show off her strength prove that she's weak.
shes the completely opposite of weak, given shes the strongest woman ever, and third strongest hokage. youd be hard pressed to find a stronger person than her,
 

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Yes I have already refuted that, she wasnt alone fighting madara, madara was busy attacking mei and onoki and the raikage had also helped.

Last time I checked there was no such thing as an unfair match, you do know that exploiting the enemy's weakness is what ninjas are supposed to do in a fight right? He destroyed her fair in square.

I'm aware she wasn't fighting alone at the time she broke his susano what help did she recieve other than mei intercepting his katon which she woulda ran straight through, since she could tank his other katon technique, i forget its name.

The exploiting part is not of my concern, the fact he had to resort to it after he realized she was too much for him is more than enough proof of her skill, you think he woulda stepped in after she came to her senses and started pounding oro. He still didn't take her out after that he just punched her and left her alone, hardly 'destroying' her IMO.
 

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Weak? No.

But pathetically weak when compared to the rest of the Hokages (she is still powerful though).
 

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Weak? No.

But pathetically weak when compared to the rest of the Hokages (she is still powerful though).

I can agree with that it is hard to say of the hokage before her who she could beat, but she is far from weak
 
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