Tsunade is definitely NOT the WEAKEST hokage....... she owns everyone except HASHI

[BenjerminGaye]

I can't see tsunade beating minato. I don't know what her slug is going to do to the entire toad army.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

tsunade is the stronger

 

[BenjerminGaye]

tsunade is the stronger

That might be true but hands can't hit what eyes cant see

 

[ESPADA NELIEL]

I can't see tsunade beating minato. I don't know what her slug is going to do to the entire toad army.

he has only seen summoning Gamabunta and Gamatora---the non fighter toad (the scroll bearer),,,kishi said if you sign the contract with bunta you can summon all the frogs, but he also said Katsuyu is the head slug for the slug army, hence if you sign the contract with her you should be able to summon all the slugs, but Tsunade only use her alone, and Minato never summoned any other frog apart from those 2, so we just have to go with what we see ok........

 

[BenjerminGaye]

he has only seen summoning Gamabunta and Gamatora---the non fighter toad (the scroll bearer),,,kishi said if you sign the contract with bunta you can summon all the frogs, but he also said Katsuyu is the head slug for the slug army, hence if you sign the contract with her you should be able to summon all the slugs, but Tsunade only use her alone, and Minato never summoned any other frog apart from those 2, so we just have to go with what we see ok........

Bunta is the hardest toad to summon. He summoned bunta thus he can summon the rest. Most of the toads knew about him too, so its not that far of a stretch. The only known slug on the other hand is katsuyu so you can't just pull slugs out your ass. And where is it said that she is the head of all slugs? Bunta isn't even the head of all the toads. He's just the boss toad. Toad sage is the head of all toads. Fyi.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Here is where the databook stands.

Old Hiruzen > pt 1 Kakashi = pt 1 kabuto > Tsunade

Need I say more?

Databook says:

Tsunade > Old Hiruzen > part1 Kakashi >/= part1 Kabuto

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Well i don't disagree about Tsunade's being weak, but she's definitely not the weakest right now. I mean if people believe Mei Temuri>> Tsunade that's an understatement right there. Tsunade is not stronger than Madara, Naruto, Obito, Sasuke and DSM Kabuto.

 

[Shinobi2000]

i created a Tobirama<<<<Tsunade thread couple days back i dont know if advertising it in this thread is a problem for the mods so its best if you guys check my thread list, i think its the 4 latest thread i have created thus far, but i can possibly re-post it in my post if you guys cant find it.

As for Hiruzen he cant do shit do Tsunade with those C RANK techniques, he hasn't shown great speed feats like Tsunade and top of that, whether he's in his prime or not he still dont have a TANK OF CHACKRA LIKE TSUNADE hence; his stamina his lower, which is a major downfall for him.

RDS can be block, if she drags her soul back into her body orochimaru is no where near in strength to Tsunade....... she can also create earthquakes with her toes spoiling that technique
Leaving Hiruzen dead, since he summon the RDS...

Minato aint doing shitt to Tsunade either, the only thing we know Minato possesses are FTG MARKS, RASENGAN , RDS, AND TRANSPORT BARRIERS FOR LONG RANGE ATTACKS.........
That's no where near sufficient to take out Tsunade in a 1 on 1 combat
Tsunade's base speed equals A's base speed, seen how she traveled with him to stop Naruto, its evidently clear that Raikage didn't have any augmentation intentions of running away from Tsunade to reach Naruto quicker

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Now what am i about to show you is something your not expecting...... disregard what i just said earlier about Tsunade and EI travelling because that wont comes into play until further down....
what i want you people to see, is a mini katsuyu on her shoulder which serves as a relay purpose for info/intel

Now the fact that zesto commented right here that the allied shinobi ninjas equals 80000 PEOPLE that should tell you that, if we divide 80000 people among 5 villages equally, then each village would have APPROXIMATELY 16000 PEOPLE, IT COULD BE LESS; IT COULD BE MORE...........

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However Tsunade's slug can split up to at least 16000-17000 TIMES, the fact that she told katsuyu to consume her chackra and attached herself to everyone in the village which includes NON SHINOBIS....... This also tells you the amount of chackra this woman has in store, because she healed everyone, then protected everyone from a massive attack after that, and was still capable to move faster than a fresh anbu black ops with the action of RAISING HER HAND IN TIME TO DESTROY ASURA PATH in a helpless state......

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Now the fact that katsuyu can consumed her chackra at will, relay info telepathically and divide rapidly thousands of times indicates that Minato cant beat Tsunade, he has no counters for Byakugou, body pathway derangement and chackra scalpel, he could block rebirth becomes it deals with hands, but she can regrow her cells and form a new hand... we have seen Tsunade damage pressure points and rendered Naruto's rasengan futile, so she can executed this job as well to Minato.......

Think about all those mini katsuyu which serves as land marks for Tsunade and relaying information instantly...........
This is exactly like the RENNIGAN LINK'S VISION but better since it also deals with sensing..... (her bottom tentacles) Take a look

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So by now you should all get the picture...... when katsuyu fuses her chackra with her master and lies on her shoulder, whatever one sees or sense the other knows...
Abilities hmmn, Monster strength can always scatter kunais knives and bury them deep away......
space time barrier isn't working with Tsunade when she has katsuyu that can sense atmospheric conditions, plus its also dominant, even Choza and Shikamaru's dad saw it, Reapers death seal can be block and omit i've said that above in Hiruzen section and Rasengan well Tsunade can tank that several times, I'm aware Minato will hit Tsunade couple times well, so will Tsunade (because no one in the narutoverse is invincible, you must hit them at some point/SPEED ISN'T EVERYTHING----Raikage got destroyed by madara)
But the overall effect and impact Minato will have is quite frankly lesser than Tsunade's also the longer this battle prolongs she has this, (huge--STAMINA)

so there you have it currently its
Tsunade
Tobirama
Minato
Hiruzen
Hashirama solos anyone of them No diff, perhaps his brother low-mid diff

i stated all the manga facts i could and I'm not bias I'm proving that Tsunade is better than these guys, its up to you to prove me wrong by indicating how the others gets around her jutsus

But here you are:
Tsunade, going by manga and her feats may regenerate herself thanks to her jutsu, she can even be cut in half and survive O_O, she's got shit load of chakra stored up, I agree, yet... Going by feats and manga again, Minato is far faster then her and, again manga fact he can cut in half a Biiju tail/tentacle with his kunai, whether he's enhancing his kunai with wind release or not I don't know but fact remains, he can cut it, so I'm sure he can cut off Tsunade's head, he's fast enough to do it, that's how he counters her jutsu, you say she can use Katsuyu like a shared vision as in Pain's case Minato can teleport himself home and back to the battlefield starting off with dropping toads at her and split into many Katsuyu, that deprives her somewhat of the intel at least for a moment, and that's all Minato needs to finish the fight how it's shown in manga several times, he's fight's lasts seconds.

I admit i can't find anything to defend Hiruzen, what we've seen from him wasn't impressive, but we should remember that what we've seen was in the first part of manga when powers were shown on less scale. Yet still even in the first part Tsunade seemed more impressive.

Now Tobirama, I'm sorry i can't find your thread, if you can give me the link I'll be happy to read and discuss. I anyway don't see him loosing to Tsunade. He's got Izuna, he's got Suiton, he was told not to be at his full power when summoned for the first time...
Anyway, I said your opinion is bias because it's the four Hokage who are coming for the rescue, Tsunade had her chance already...

 

[Bantos]

She is definately stronger than Hiruzen. She beats Tobirama according to the feats he has shown right now. And Minato and Tsunade are pretty much equals, but with more stamina and the fact he can't really harm Tsunade she would win in the end. So yes, currently Tsunade is the second best hokage.

1. Hashirama
2. Tsunade/Minato
3. Minato/Tsunade
4. Tobirama
5. Hiruzen

 

[Masked man]

Joke of the day

Yeah, this..

 

[Vin Thora]

Tsunade isn't just a random Senju. She is the granddaughter of Hashirama Senju.

But anyways, I never said Tsunade can defeat Minato. All I said 'logically she should be stronger then him'.

Poor logic. Asuma is Hiruzen's son, and we know he's pretty pathetic.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Tobirama got defeated bY GIN-KIN BROTHERS WHO LOST TO DARUI someone who is inferior to Tsunade SO YEA HE'S ALSO A F7CKING WEAK CRAP
Minato lost to OBITO who is losing to kakashi currently and whom is also weaker than Tsunade, sakura figured out obito attacks something that Took Minato a long time Lol sop yea he's also weak and pathetic

Hiruzen well i dont want to drag him in this

you have literally no idea what you're talking about

QUOTE: wiki
Name: Katsuyu
Animal: Slug
Rank: Sage
Description: This slug is the personal summon of Tsunade and she is the head of all slugs.
Jutsu:



QUOTE: wiki
Name: Manda
Animal: Snake
Rank: Sage
Descripiton: This snake is the personal summon of Orochimaru and he is the head of all snakes.
Jutsu: Unknown

what more can be said :shrug:

wiki isn't made by kishi. Manda isn't head of all snakes when we've specifically seen the snake sage during kabuto's fight with the uchiha.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Poor logic. Asuma is Hiruzen's son, and we know he's pretty pathetic.

He is on pair with part1 Kakashi. That's not pathetic at all.

 

[Nagato The Sage]

1. Hashi
2. Minato
3. Tobirama (Hype)
4. Tsunade
5. Hiruzen (Old)
6. Tobirama (Feats)

He is on pair with part1 Kakashi. That's not pathetic at all.

Wave Arc Kakashi or Zabuza would Beat Asuma

 

[Ultimatum]

Dang dude, sometimes I think that Tsunade's boobs are hypnotizing you!

 

[zamki]

Joke of the day

Definetely this^^

No just no. Tobirama > Tsunade
Minato > Tsunade
Hiruzen > Tsunade

And this^^

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Wave Arc Kakashi or Zabuza would Beat Asuma

Zabuza is not even close to Asuma's level.
How can Kakashi beat him?

 

[Fire Lord Azula]

Shes top 10 smh for her

 

[Ultimatum]

Minato​

Minato isn't exactly an idiot, he deduced Obito's Kamui technique and developed an effective countermeasure in one run, the longer you keep Minato alive, the more he's going to get a feel for your fighting style and your techniques ( and if Tsunade can't end the battle quickly, she is going to lose due to Minato's intellect ). Minato is a genius that was said to only come once in a decade, and what makes it worse is that Tsunade is a close range fighter with barely any speed feats ( so please don't BS us by saying that Tsunade is as fast as A, that is an incredibly asinine thing to say to try and prove your point =D ). If Tsunade summons Katsuya then Minato will just summon Gamabunta and then have him to hold her off, but seriously, couldn't you have just waited until Minato shows all he has so we could actually have both sides fight at full power?

Tobirama: Featless, wait until he actually shows what he has until you start making these types of " Tsunade stomps everyone!!! " threads.

Hiruzen: Pretty much featless, we haven't even seen a whole lot from Old Hiruzen, so wait until he actually shows his full power before you make threads like these and then thinking that you've actually proved something.

Anyway we should wait and see what each of the Hokage's can do at full power because out of all the Hokage's, the one we've seen the most of is Tsunade ( so we know exactly what her limits are, but barely any from the other side ), making this thread pointless since we have barely seen anything from the Four Hokage's ( with Hashirama being the only exception ).

( and please stop wanking Tsunade, you're really not doing her fanbase any favors by doing this )

 

[Micho22]

Even madara who is one of the strongest charackters in this whole manga did say that tsunade isnot weak and aknowledge her power and even before seing her instant regneration powers like hashirama

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Just pathetic haters woud say that she is weak