Tsunade is definitely NOT the WEAKEST hokage....... she owns everyone except HASHI

[zesto]

No, not really. She is a Senju Hokage, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. Logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

or second strongest if Tobirama doesn't show something impressive

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

If they were weaker then her, then there would be no point in Kishi sending the other 3 to the battlefield.

Because Tsunade can't solo Madara, I guess...

or second strongest if Tobirama doesn't show something impressive

Kishi is sexist. Tobirama will be a weaker version of Hashirama, but a stronger version of Minato.
I'm sure he will be stronger then Tsunade.

 

[zesto]

Nah, they would just get pwned in another way. Minato would just be zipping around like an annoying mosquito and hiruzen throwing his fodder techniques, unless hes brave to try his famous RDS.

If kishi nerfed his gokage like that, theres no way minato and Hizuzen should demonstrate anything to put them on par with madara hashi and possibly tobirama (idk what he can do).

That would just be a bit ridiculous, plus im pretty sure current naruto >> hiruzen and minato by alot =/

so i dont think they will be wowing us, we will see

exactly this^^^^^ they have demonstrated there full potential in my opinion, all we will see is more leverage of there jutsus

 

[NagazuDead]

If she can even hit minato once,then i am glad and satisfied,

 

[shelke]

I think she does win against Hizuren given his lack-lustre feats compared to Hashirama and possibily even Minato. She definitely has chances to beat Minato as well with her immortality technique. Anyone who denies is is being highly anti-Tsunade. Tobirama is feat-less, so I wouldn't bring him into this debate just yet.

 

[zesto]

Because Tsunade can't solo Madara, I guess...


Kishi is sexist. Tobirama will be a weaker version of Hashirama, but a stronger version of Minato.
I'm sure he will be stronger then Tsunade.

i think it has already been indicated

 

[MickNerks]

13 YEARS is better than 25-30 years out of battle when they fought Hanzo that was Tsunade's last fight... then she probable was about 25-28 in her dead prime

It doesnt matter whether it was 13 year or 20 years, after 5 years of no combat anyone would be rusty. You cant debate that just because she had not seen battle in 25 years that it makes her more rusty than hiruzen. And you are only speculating that she had not been in battle for 25-30 years. You have no actual idea how long its been since she fought someone.

But the fact that they were both rusty means nothing.

wrong Hiruzen dont know all of lady hokages techniques, shizune made that clear, that when the SANNINS LEFT THE VILLAGE ON THERE separate paths they began to develop new jutsus, hence why Tsunade was able to formulate her own seal from Mito's trade mark........ Right now Hiruzen dont even know about byakugou, a guy like Onoki who encountered Tsunade in the 2nd world war was shock to see her new REGEN MODE NOW.... then are you implying that Hiruzen knows that too along with rebirth?

Thats true. I forgot she developed the techniques after she left. But that does not mean Hiruzen wouldnt have a counter for her taijutsu and techniques, seeing how he has a arsenal of over 1000 jutsu. Dont underestimate hiruzen or his known feats.

Acid slime>>> Enma all day, the monkey dont even possess a long range attack for himself

This is sooo flawed.lol If enma is a Diamond Staff, then Katasuyu's acid wont do anything to him.

And enma has also shown long range feats in his battle against kyuubi and extending his reach to choke orochimaru.

And as for your acid slime being > than enma

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There is no water-based liquid which can decompose diamonds at room temperature. Maybe no room-temperature liquid of any kind.
The bonds between carbons atoms in diamonds need a lot of energy to break, before otherwise natural reactions of carbon can occur. If you put stomach acid in a stainless steel pressure tank and heated it to 200-300C, you might dissolve a little of your diamond. Concentrated Phosphoric Acid dissolves glass and many rocks at 200C, and may have some effect on diamond.
Pure, elemental brown liquid Bromine (Br2) comes close, but probably does not do it at room temperature. Even chlorine gas liquefied by pressure might not. Fluorine gas pressurized to 10 atmospheres could burn it with an intense white flame, but until the flame was ignited, the diamond would not dissolve.
Whether a reaction occurs or stalls might actually depend on subtleties like the color of the diamond, or more precisely, its impurities and electrical carrier type. Yellowish Nitrogen-doped N-type diamonds might require a slightly higher temperature to start to dissolve than boron-doped P-type diamonds, when one is using an oxidizing chemical to dissolve it. Oxygen and Fluorine are oxidizers, liquid sodium is a reducer, and the HCL in stomach acid would be attempting a mixed reduction-oxidation reaction, which works well enough on some crystals.
Molten Sodium Hydroxide + Sodium Nitrate at 400 degrees C might do a fair job of slowly dissolving diamonds completely.

Basically this is saying that acid at near room temp cant melt diamond and since tsunade doesnt have fire jutsu to heat the acid, it highly unlikely that it will hurt enma.

Sooo Noo, Katasuyu can not harm Enma

This should have end her no doubt (with her head falling from her body)

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You must be forgetting the fact that tsunade is a uzumaki which means that she SHOULD easily be able to survive that cut.

Did you not see kushina get a jinchuuriki get ripped out of her (which should have killed her) and then also get impaled by kyuubi, yet she was still alive and able to give naruto alittle bit of her chakra.

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That is because of the uzumaki longevity. And also that wasnt a cut to her head, that was a cut across her chest, so it wouldnt have decapitated her.

i know the guy learn sealing jutsus from kushina same thing with Tsunade she learned sealing jutsu from mito, but you honestly cant jump to conclusions by saying such things bro........ we have never seen Minato used another seal tech except RDS.... furthermore saying that Minato is that good to shut of her rengen technique because we all know kushina taught him seals; its like your saying Tsunade can go slug mode because we all know shikkotsurin is the slug forest, since its humid and warm.......
The fact that Katsuyu and Tsunade carries a rennigan link vision attribute (when fused) counters Minato's FTG attacks, besides its no different from a reverse summoning jutsu once placed on the foe, he can also port back to you since he has to have a mark on him for the seals to correspond/work

That statement is SUPER FALSE

Minato has used:

Death Reaper seal
Contract Seal
Eight trigram Seal
Four symbol seal
FTG v2
And 2 summonings

He has many finjutsu at his disposal and we havent even seen them all. He has shown way more then tsunade.


There is no such thing as slug sage mode. Shikkotsurin does not mean slug forrest, it means Humid Bone Forest, and since Hashirama was the next person seen in sage mode its highly possible that thats where he got his from.


Katasuyu and tsunades shared vision means nothing since she cant move as fast as him.

Nice try, they are called biggest of the big fish because THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE EDO TENSEI KAGES, IN NO WAY KISHI every contradicts himself, its people who misinterpret or miscalculate things..... in no way they are more ultimate than Tsunade's team....... but will will just have to hang tight and watch

???? Yet madara stated himself that hashirama would have put up a better fight. Wouldnt that mean Hashirama, Minato, Tobirama, and Hiruzen are a better team then your 5 kages???

I would think so.

I never said kishi contradicted himself. I was just saying that The Hokage team is stronger than the Kage Team. This si common sense.

at no point i SAID TSUNADE HAD SLUG MODE, I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ARE CONSTRUCTING IRRELEVANT POINTS TO PROVE YOUR LUDICROUS STATEMENTS

Your right. I miss read what you had written. You didnt say that she had sage mode. My mistake.

 

[zesto]

If she can even hit minato once,then i am glad and satisfied,

yes she can and will, read my last part of the thread, with the slug ability similar to RENNIGAN LINK VISION

 

[Rike Senju]

If they turn out to be weaker than Tsunade, then that would just be ass cheek writing.

That'll be the worst troll kishi will pull lol but I highly doubt it since he saved the hokages (first 4) to accomplish something the 5 kage would have never accomplished. Which is to put down Edo madara U_U

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

That'll be the worst troll kishi will pull lol but I highly doubt it since he saved the hokages (first 4) to accomplish something the 5 kage would have never accomplished. Which is to put down Edo madara U_U

That's Naruto's job. He is the main character and not Hashirama or any other Kage.

 

[spike2068]

Tobirama got defeated bY GIN-KIN BROTHERS WHO LOST TO DARUI someone who is inferior to Tsunade SO YEA HE'S ALSO A F7CKING WEAK CRAP
Minato lost to OBITO who is losing to kakashi currently and whom is also weaker than Tsunade, sakura figured out obito attacks something that Took Minato a long time Lol sop yea he's also weak and pathetic

Hiruzen well i dont want to drag him in this

minato did not lose to obito you idiot he chose to die in order to protect his son obito did not kill him. And as far as beating tsunade, minato uses his high level base speed to hit her once and put a marking on her, then teleports behind her and knocks her out by hitting the base of her neck. Then he can do whatever he wants, he could cut her throa decapitate her anything really once he marks her hes already won the match and there is nothing she can do to stop it

 

[spike2068]

bro Tsunade was out of combat for years, Kabuto had to take DRUGS to keep up with a RUSTY 50 YEAR OLD TSUNADE SO WHATS YOUR POINT ABOUT TSUNADE CANT LAND BLOWS?
SHE INCAPACITATED HIM BODY PATHWAY EASILY... Lol

Tsunade is also FUUNINJUTSU MASTER remember she devised that YIN SEAL FROM MITO THE GREATEST SEALER?>>>KUSHINA so seal techs is out of this question
I'm aware Minato is very smart but Tsunade is also intelligent too, dont underestimate her, incapacitated madara without he saw that coming (and sharigan suppose to read through moves) in addition to lay a trap on him so ONOKI could finished him off.....

also dude i think what you and others are MISUNDERSTANDING IS THE ENTIRE FTG JUTSU it doesn't makes someone run PHYSICALLY, and like any other jutsu it consumes a lot of chackra, Minato isn't noted for this because Obito pushed him to his limits, when he only used the jutsu a few times.......... Bro Tsunade take this one period
she has so many ways to undo is jutsu while Minato still haven't got any counters for body pathway, BYAKUGOU, Scalpels which will rendered his only offensive battle thus known RASENGAN

minato ran out of chakra because he was teleporting extremely large objects all over the place, i would say the space time barrier that saved the hokage monuments took the most, then he had to summon gambunta then he had to teleport the fox and have an all out fight with another s/t user (who he beat easily). Thats why he ran out of chakra. if he was just fighting 1vs1 against a mainly close quarters fighter he could probablly last for a very long time

 

[Exaar]

No, not really. She is a Senju Hokage, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. Logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

She is Half senju, Plus since when did being senju mean "Logically" you're automatically At/Close to the Top or above None Senju's?.

 

[KidGamer65]

If Tsunade had a dick you'd be the first person hanging off of it.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

She is Half senju, Plus since when did being senju mean "Logically" you're automatically At/Close to the Top or above None Senju's?.

Half Senju and half Uzumaki.
And the Senju clan is the strongest clan.

 

[spike2068]

I think she does win against Hizuren given his lack-lustre feats compared to Hashirama and possibily even Minato. She definitely has chances to beat Minato as well with her immortality technique. Anyone who denies is is being highly anti-Tsunade. Tobirama is feat-less, so I wouldn't bring him into this debate just yet.

minato gets behind her and knocks her out. imortal doesnt mean you cant be KOd

 

[spike2068]

yes she can and will, read my last part of the thread, with the slug ability similar to RENNIGAN LINK VISION

lol how, minato just dodges constantly how would she ever hit him

 

[Exaar]

Half Senju and half Uzumaki.
And the Senju clan is the strongest clan.

Your logic is laughable.
Senju were/are the strongest clan as a whole yes, Doesn't mean every Senju member > every Non-Senju clan members. Nor does it mean simply because they're senju they're automatically put above a regular shinobi.

 

[KidGamer65]

Half Senju and half Uzumaki.
And the Senju clan is the strongest clan.

Poor logic is poor. Extremely poor.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Your logic is laughable.
Senju were/are the strongest clan as a whole yes, Doesn't mean every Senju member > every Non-Senju clan members. Nor does it mean simply because they're senju they're automatically put above a regular shinobi.

Tsunade isn't just a random Senju. She is the granddaughter of Hashirama Senju.

Poor logic is poor. Extremely poor.

Says the guy who thinks Tsunade can't beat Manda.


But anyways, I never said Tsunade can defeat Minato. All I said 'logically she should be stronger then him'.