Tsunade is definitely NOT the WEAKEST hokage....... she owns everyone except HASHI

[Rike Senju]

i look at the user name and i see a die hard troller fanboy of tobirama who is filled with confusion, so please I'll let you explain in details why the others are greater than her (exclude hashirama I'm aware)
statements must come from manga scans or DB scans i dont want your hypocrite irrelevant fanboy opinion

Hiruzen - deafeated healthy oro. Tsunade couldn't even defeat armless oro.
Minato - defeated obito while at the same time saving the village from the strongest tailed beast.
Tobirama - caused the death of an MS user and survived during the hardest era.

 

[zesto]

again....that was part 1 kabuto and an armless orochimaru....that's not impressive. Sasuke even defeated Orochimaru while being crippled....

hello sauke was being trained by oro, while he got sicker by day, what part of training and not training in years dont you understand, plus Tsunade still defeated them both, jiriaya didn't do much at all he was taken out of the equation the entire time until MANDA was summoned, and eeven so, if it wasn't for Tsunade pervy sage and frog would be eaten by now

and we have not seen anything from Tobirama(but judging from him being Hashirama's brother, he's probably close to his level)

sure but he's not stronger than her right now, furthermore Tobirama at hashirama level's is just your assumptions... thats irrelevant

Minato is shown to have godlike reflexes....if he can dodge A, then you can bet your ass he's going to run circles around Tsunade....and we haven't seen all his jutsu either(which we will soon I'm sure)
he wont be able to do that when her slug synchronization with her enables a rennigan link vision attribute

Old Hiruzen defeated prime Orochimaru with 2 edos......he would murder Tsunade regardless of healing

your crazy to believe that Hiruzen can beat her whether or not in his prime, what i can agree on however is that a prime Hiruzen can defeat a teenager Tsunade no doubt

 

[Lightbringer]

hello sauke was being trained by oro, while he got sicker by day, what part of training and not training in years dont you understand, plus Tsunade still defeated them both, jiriaya didn't do much at all he was taken out of the equation the entire time until MANDA was summoned, and eeven so, if it wasn't for Tsunade pervy sage and frog would be eaten by now

sure but he's not stronger than her right now, furthermore Tobirama at hashirama level's is just your assumptions... thats irrelevant

Minato is shown to have godlike reflexes....if he can dodge A, then you can bet your ass he's going to run circles around Tsunade....and we haven't seen all his jutsu either(which we will soon I'm sure)
he wont be able to do that when her slug synchronization with her enables a rennigan link vision attribute


your crazy to believe that Hiruzen can beat her whether or not in his prime, what i can agree on however is that a prime Hiruzen can defeat a teenager Tsunade no doubt

if it wasn't for Naruto Tsunade would have died from the Kabuto fight lol

Hiruzen defeated prime Oro while being old....and Tsunade couldn't even defeat and armless Oro

and you're assuming that Tobirama is weaker than Tsunade with no valid evidence....your point?

Minato defeated Obito and the ninetails....he can defeat a medical nin and a slug

and slug synchronization doesn't give her vision of the battlefield....it just lets her communicate like the jinchuriki with their bijuu

 

[Joshutsu]

I think you are exaggerating her byakugou technique a tad bit. I doubt she can regrow lost limbs maybe she can put it back together but regrowing is another story.

Your thread is pushing Tsunade higher than she actually is, i being a fan myself. You have brough promising reason for her being able to beat hiruzen, and tobirama, minatos is a bit of a stretch since he doesnt have to use the kunais but plant a seal onto her.

 

[Joshutsu]

Its funny how hardcore tsunade fans like this one calls everyone who doesn't agree with the OP's opinion a hater lol @ OP she'll loose to Minato and with the upcoming chapters finally kishi will show us feats of tobi and hiruzen. Tsunade already had her time to shine and ended up being stomped by madara. Now the actual strong shinobis are gonna shine.

Madara >>> edo minato and hiruzen by centuries, the only shining they will get is edo tensei protection.

 

[zesto]

Kabuto has nothing to do with this argument. And your point that tsunade was rusty is irrelavent becuase hiruzen was rusty as well. He hasnt seen a battle since the nine-tails attacked with was 13 year before his battle with oro. And he still had orochimaru scared and defeated.

13 YEARS is better than 25-30 years out of battle when they fought Hanzo that was Tsunade's last fight... then she probable was about 25-28 in her dead prime

Hiruzen has more then fire release (is my point). He knows all jutsu which exist within the leaf which means he knows how to use all elements and knows all of tsunades techniques as well. And seeing how the man is hailed as a genius im sure he can come up with a way to defeat tsunade since he has such a vast arsenal and superior knowledge and battle prowess.

wrong Hiruzen dont know all of lady hokages techniques, shizune made that clear, that when the SANNINS LEFT THE VILLAGE ON THERE separate paths they began to develop new jutsus, hence why Tsunade was able to formulate her own seal from Mito's trade mark........ Right now Hiruzen dont even know about byakugou, a guy like Onoki who encountered Tsunade in the 2nd world war was shock to see her new REGEN MODE NOW.... then are you implying that Hiruzen knows that too along with rebirth?

1. Katasuyu is NOT greater than enma

2. Tsuande cant cut enma in half, unless you are trying to say tsunade is strong enough to cut thru diamond (which she's not)


Whithout her head she cant regenerate which means she will die. Orochimaru never tried to cut her neck off so i dont see understand what you mean by saying "why didn't her head fall out by that sharp kusanagi sword, when oro sliced her in hall", and please show me where enma's fingers fell off because you may be the ONLY person who has seen that. And yes enma was sore, but he wasnt harmed. Tsunade as i said earlier will get bashed by enma. The same enma who bashed the 1st and 2nd.

Acid slime>>> Enma all day, the monkey dont even possess a long range attack for himself

This should have end her no doubt (with her head falling from her body)

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So you are admiting that you are going based only off what you have seen. Thats fine, but its not gonna help your case. You still haven provided a counter to how tsunade will respond if minato seals her yin seal off so that she cant access it.

i know the guy learn sealing jutsus from kushina same thing with Tsunade she learned sealing jutsu from mito, but you honestly cant jump to conclusions by saying such things bro........ we have never seen Minato used another seal tech except RDS.... furthermore saying that Minato is that good to shut of her rengen technique because we all know kushina taught him seals; its like your saying Tsunade can go slug mode because we all know shikkotsurin is the slug forest, since its humid and warm.......
The fact that Katsuyu and Tsunade carries a rennigan link vision attribute (when fused) counters Minato's FTG attacks, besides its no different from a reverse summoning jutsu once placed on the foe, he can also port back to you since he has to have a mark on him for the seals to correspond/work

They were called the ultimate team because the hokages had not come back yet. And the kages were all solo'd by ONE man. Now when the hokages are ressurected they are called the Biggest of the Big Fish. Do you know what that expression means?

Nice try, they are called biggest of the big fish because THEY ARE BETTER THAN THE EDO TENSEI KAGES, IN NO WAY KISHI every contradicts himself, its people who misinterpret or miscalculate things..... in no way they are more ultimate than Tsunade's team....... but will will just have to hang tight and watch

Tsunade doesnt have slug sage mode. Nothing in the manga suggest that she does. You are seriously overrating her.

at no point i SAID TSUNADE HAD SLUG MODE, I THINK YOU ARE THE ONE WHO ARE CONSTRUCTING IRRELEVANT POINTS TO PROVE YOUR LUDICROUS STATEMENTS

 

[Redhothabanero]

no all hokage solo's her U_U

 

[zesto]

Hiruzen - deafeated healthy oro. Tsunade couldn't even defeat armless oro.

she did bro, she pummelled him to Bunt's large sword and he could do nothing after that, he admitted his defeat your point?, plus he had Kabuto to aid him and rusty Tsunade owned him too Lol bro please stop

Minato - defeated obito while at the same time saving the village from the strongest tailed beast.

It was stated that the 9 tails isn't the strongest tailed beast by hachibi statement so i will go with manga, SO6P just created them that way, also Hirzuen and gang dealt with Kurama your statement is not precise.... Minato only save the statues from being blizzed

Tobirama - caused the death of an MS user and survived during the hardest era.

Yea your right, he killed Izuna when he wasn't focusing on him, instead hashirama, it was a cheap shot, your overreacting RIKE SENJU....
Tobirama had to strike at somepoint when he was off gaurd because the senjus were surrounded......
if your trying to say a ftg slash will kill Tsunade your out of your mind dude...
Tobirama almost got destroyed by UCHIHA TAJIMA, if it wasn't for his brother, so he didn't survived on his own, remember that... it was the help of his clan that caused him to survived via WAR ZONES/TIMES

 

[iKaras]

i look at the user name and i see a die hard troller fanboy of tobirama who is filled with confusion, so please I'll let you explain in details why the others are greater than her (exclude hashirama I'm aware)
statements must come from manga scans or DB scans i dont want your hypocrite irrelevant fanboy opinion

^"who is filled with confusion" I lol'd.

And the biggest diehard fanboy here is you by miles bro...Maybe bigger than some Itachi fans...I thought this was a troll thread but you might be serious.

If Tsunade was as strong as you say, Madara wouldn't have "played" with her along with the other 4 kages.

Could Madara "play" with Minato? Hell no. He'll win but he'd wouldn't/couldn't troll him like he did Tsunade.

Madara called Tsunade weak AND backed it up.

3rd Hokage(even past his prime) > Sannin. He could solo Tsunade. He can solo J-man. He can solo Oro.

Oro wasn't dumb enough to try and solo the 3rd so he edo'd the 1st, 2nd, and tried to bring the 4th back as well. That alone should be enough proof.

-Don't tell me Oro would go so far to defeat Tsunade. He wouldn't because they were at LEAST on par.

2nd Hokage I can't really say nothing on. Can't put him over nor under Tsunade till Kishi shows what he can/cannot do on the battlefield.

 

[zesto]

I think you are exaggerating her byakugou technique a tad bit. I doubt she can regrow lost limbs maybe she can put it back together but regrowing is another story.

Your thread is pushing Tsunade higher than she actually is, i being a fan myself. You have brough promising reason for her being able to beat hiruzen, and tobirama, minatos is a bit of a stretch since he doesnt have to use the kunais but plant a seal onto her.

i explained the knives part in my second to last post

 

[Rike Senju]

Madara >>> edo minato and hiruzen by centuries, the only shining they will get is edo tensei protection.

They would still do a better job than tsunade and we will see it in the next chapters U_U

she did bro, she pummelled him to Bunt's large sword and he could do nothing after that, he admitted his defeat your point?, plus he had Kabuto to aid him and rusty Tsunade owned him too Lol bro please stop

Armless oro got away unharmed even while tsunade had jirayia as back up U_U

It was stated that the 9 tails isn't the strongest tailed beast by hachibi statement so i will go with manga, SO6P just created them that way, also Hirzuen and gang dealt with Kurama your statement is not precise.... Minato only save the statues from being blizzed

LOL going by the manga 9 tails has shown much much more power than the hachibi get real fanboy.

Yea your right, he killed Izuna when he wasn't focusing on him, instead hashirama, it was a cheap shot, your overreacting RIKE SENJU....
Tobirama had to strike at somepoint when he was off gaurd because the senjus were surrounded......
if your trying to say a ftg slash will kill Tsunade your out of your mind dude...
Tobirama almost got destroyed by UCHIHA TAJIMA, if it wasn't for his brother, so he didn't survived on his own, remember that... it was the help of his clan that caused him to survived via WAR ZONES/TIMES

Proof or false. Hashirama and madara were engaging in combat while tobirama took on izuna. Also I've never said that's how tobi would beat tsunade U_U

 

[Space Cowboy]

Only Hokage shes stronger than is Hiruzen, thats it

 

[zesto]

if it wasn't for Naruto Tsunade would have died from the Kabuto fight lol

I can agree with this possibly

Hiruzen defeated prime Oro while being old....and Tsunade couldn't even defeat and armless Oro

she did bro, she pawned him

and you're assuming that Tobirama is weaker than Tsunade with no valid evidence....your point?

please just read my Tobirama's thread (manga scans and facts provided)

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Minato defeated Obito and the ninetails....he can defeat a medical nin and a slug

we dont know for sure, but i know he will give her a hard time thats for sure.......

and slug synchronization doesn't give her vision of the battlefield....it just lets her communicate like the jinchuriki with their bijuu

and if katsuyu can relay a message in an instant and divide herself rapidly all over the place, then when Minato starts FTG she can tell Tsunade where and which direction he his coming from, its just as simple as that LIGHT-BRINGER... Now you see it acts like a rennigan,(remember her sensors records vibrations quickly) moreover we dont know for sure if katsuyu can use reverse kuchiyose no jutsu, because Tsunade was seeing using space time jutsu in the anime ... and saiken (six tailed slug) grew hands which summoned Utaka...... however if she does then it limits Minato FTG chances even more...

 

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I don't need to state any arguments as to why you're wrong, because there's just too many of them.....

Made my day though, delusional Tsunade fanboy/girl!!!

he's just a terrible troll U_U

 

[Joshutsu]

They would still do a better job than tsunade and we will see it in the next chapters U_U

Nah, they would just get pwned in another way. Minato would just be zipping around like an annoying mosquito and hiruzen throwing his fodder techniques, unless hes brave to try his famous RDS.

If kishi nerfed his gokage like that, theres no way minato and Hizuzen should demonstrate anything to put them on par with madara hashi and possibly tobirama (idk what he can do).

That would just be a bit ridiculous, plus im pretty sure current naruto >> hiruzen and minato by alot =/

so i dont think they will be wowing us, we will see

 

[Rainbow Dash]

If they turn out to be weaker than Tsunade, then that would just be ass cheek writing.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

If they turn out to be weaker than Tsunade, then that would just be ass cheek writing.

No, not really. She is a Senju Hokage, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. Logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

 

[zesto]

^"who is filled with confusion" I lol'd.

And the biggest diehard fanboy here is you by miles bro...Maybe bigger than some Itachi fans...I thought this was a troll thread but you might be serious.

Really, I'm not happy to here that

if Tsunade was as strong as you say, Madara wouldn't have "played" with her along with the other 4 kages.

let me see if you were reading carefully you would have saw when Tsunade stated her 4 rules, its obvious that Tsunade wasn't going full power the fact that she didn't summon katsuyu or another slug, that could slip in madara's clothes and screed his attacks

Could Madara "play" with Minato? Hell no. He'll win but he'd wouldn't/couldn't troll him like he did Tsunade.

of course Madara can toy with yellow flash, his rasengan can barely put a dent on his susanoo's not to mention is flower tree world and wood dragon jutsu etc....... Kages were only trolled due to plot bro dont forget that, if Madara had lose then it wouldn't make much sense now, would it?

Madara called Tsunade weak AND backed it up.

yes your right he called her weak and had to take back his words when she effortlessly kick his entire susanoo off him and healed without any hand signs.........

3rd Hokage(even past his prime) > Sannin. He could solo Tsunade. He can solo J-man. He can solo Oro.

BRO WTF XD are you serious? hahah hehe hehe heahah

Oro wasn't dumb enough to try and solo the 3rd so he edo'd the 1st, 2nd, and tried to bring the 4th back as well. That alone should be enough proof.

-Don't tell me Oro would go so far to defeat Tsunade. He wouldn't because they were at LEAST on par.

he wouldn't defeat Tsunade because he couldn't even with kabuto's help Lol...

2nd Hokage I can't really say nothing on. Can't put him over nor under Tsunade till Kishi shows what he can/cannot do on the battlefield.

ok i see your views here

 

[Rainbow Dash]

No, not really. She is a Senju Hokage, just like Hashirama and Tobirama. Logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

If they were weaker then her, then there would be no point in Kishi sending the other 3 to the battlefield.

 

[zesto]

If they turn out to be weaker than Tsunade, then that would just be ass cheek writing.

how is that ass cheeking writing,?