Tsunade is definitely NOT the WEAKEST hokage....... she owns everyone except HASHI

[MickNerks]

if swords couldn't got the job done consecutively what makes you think 2 arrows will, she cant be killed once she has chackra, moreover not to mention her slug that can wipe the floor with that kid........

Did you just say that katasuyu could wipe the floor with sasuke??? smh

you can no longer be taking seriously.lmao

 

[Lightbringer]

your looking at a speed bliz picture of Tsunade...... she maneuvered another susanoo in mid air with too large heavy swords in her gut, that should have slowed her down drastically so your point?

she didn't even got caught in an illusion despite severely out numbered by the greatest uchiha.... unlike my man EI who lost focus, Tsunade is powerfula dn fast indeed her speed is adequate to strike minato at some point with her intelligence and slugs help

I had a hard time trying to figure out what you just said but from what I got out of it, you're saying that Tsunade is more intelligent than Minato? Hell no

Madara only used Genjutsu on A, he never attempted to cast it on Tsunade because he was fooling around with mokuton.....if he wanted to kill them from the start, he would have.


Naruto was able to defeat the 3rd raikage that was just as powerful, if not more powerful than Tsunade and faster....

Tsunade in every battle gets stabbed multiple times and never shown to actually defeat anyone.....her feats are nothing special, and her healing didn't save her from getting cut in half

 

[MickNerks]

ok bro i understand this list perfectly and i would agree with it no doubt but the reason why i would place both Tsunade and Tobirama above minato is the fact that they are both senjus..... SENJUS HAS A TANK OF STAMINA JUST LIKE THE UZUMAKIS.... They dont tire so quickly , we have seen how Minato PANT couple times well when he used that FTG against OBITO

Your logic is flawed. Stamina doesnt decide a match or if someone is stronger than someone else. Kisame has loads more stamina then Might Guy. Yet Might guys defeated kisame twice.

 

[Vin Thora]

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I don't need to state any arguments as to why you're wrong, because there's just too many of them.....

Made my day though, delusional Tsunade fanboy/girl!!!

 

[zesto]

Woooww. You have to stop this madness. Im in no way saying tsunade is weak because she has proved countless times that she is a verypowerful shinobi. But SHE CAN NOT, and i repeat, CAN NOT defeat Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, or Minato.

Hashirama is out of this but the rest dont have an adequate arsenal to take her out

First on all your mistake lies when you judge Hiruzen only from what you've seen in part one and Minato from the techniques he showned in his fight aganist the kyuubi. I'll defend Hiruzen first then make my way to Minato.


IMO Hiruzen still easily beats tsunade. Look at it like this, If orochimaru hadnt summoned the 1st and 2nd hokages in their fight hiruzen would have won easily, as we saw him dominate orochiamru in terms of ninjutsu, taijutsu, and kenjutsu before and after the kages were summoned. Tsunade on the other hand couldnt even defeat a orochimaru who had his hands basically tied behind his back.

your wrong again here she smashed orochimaru face to pieces despite rusty and out of combat for years, she also feared blood back then and he used her weakness against her... its just as simple as that, kabuto had to take drugs to keep up with a rsty slow Tsunade then which indicates how insignificant he his to her in taijutsu and speed....
one last thing all the sannins are different people not because if orochimaru hadn't summoned those 2 means that he kills Tsunade or can beat Jiriaya bro, the 3 are different people with different abilities....

Now you attempted to call hiruzen's techniques C ranked, which is very laughable, because there were shown in pre-shippuden and its common knowlegde now that the power scale in pre-shippuden was very lacking compared to shippuden. Here is an example, the same orochimaru who had arms in pt.1 got defeated by Hiruzen, yet in part 2 that SAME orochimaru w/o arms could go toe to toe with a 4 tails naruto. All the techniques hiruzen has shown us thus far have been S-A ranked but just not as visually power because of the power increase givin to shippuden.

Ok i understand this perfectly but your still underestimating the WOMAN WHO DIDN'T EVEN CARE OR SURPRISED TO GET EXTERMINATED BY UCHIHA MADARA'S ULTRA FIRE KATON because she knew that cant kill her, she TANK another ultra FIRE HEAD DRAGON (dissipated the attack with her punches) SO WHATS YOUR POINT BRO? Hiruzen still cant harm her, Madara was known for the greatest fire releases

Hiruzen's taijutsu is said to already be superior to tsuandes, as he has completely mastered it. And his Ninjutsu, Genjutsu, Kenjutsu, Finjutsu are also on a completely diffrent level then her own.

When did manga state such thing or databook, Tsunade has a 5 for taijutsu bro plus we have seen so many times how she pounded madara infront of the kages

And then you also forget Hiruzen's secret weapon which is enma. And tsunade cant fight Enma and hiruzen at once. Enma would pound the $#!+ out of tsunade.

Katsuyu>>>Enma dont for get that, moreover if Hiruzen swings that monkey in a bamboo form she can also slice it in half with her infused raiton scalpel

All it would take was one paper bomb to the back of the head and Kaboom!!! no more tsunade, becuase without a brain her body cant control chakra to heal. And i know you are gonna say "hiruzen wouldnt land a paper bomb on tsunade because she it to fast", well if you got one on hash and tobi, im very postive that he could land one on her. Also because she is a close range fighter it would make it easier for hiruzen to take advantage with his long range justu.

how many times we have seen that attacking her head is futile when the jutsu source comes FROM HER BRAIN.... SIGH dude debating with you is pointless, why didn't her head fall out by that sharp kusanagi sword, when oro sliced her in hall, the monkey's fingers fell off and it cut right via his hand and left him sore so whats your point about headless, why didn't Tsunade die after Madara USED YASAKA MAGATAMA FACE FIRST IN HER HEAD?

Saying Tsunade is greater than minato is absolutely ridiculous. All he would have to do is seal of her yin seal on her forehead, which will take away her immortality and then just FTG her head off.[

Tsunade is greater than Minato indeed his low chackra potential and his weak arsenal of offensive abilities we have seen so far cant kill her so yes TSUNADE>>>>MINATO BRO... I'm not overrating her nor underrating Yellow flash but until i've seen something he can do to kill her then yes i will place him above her..

She is not on the level of the previous 4 kages, which is why kishi clearly called them the four strongest soldiers.

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And why would you even post this when the kages are about to go to war and show their full power. You've never seen hiruzen or tobirama's power in shippuden, so shouldnt you have waited till after the war to post this. Because after they pull off some godly feats (which they will), you will have to eat your words.

she is on the level bro KAGES TEAM WAS CALL ULTIMATE TEAM, those guys are call big dogs, do you know the definition for ULTIMATE?

Tsunade can beat Tobirama and others but she just cant beat Hashirama I'm not stupid to think or even right a statement pertaining to that, she needs SLUG mode to rival his power............

 

[donut1939]

Hashirama- yea I agree she'd definitely lose no matter which way you slice it, hell he could probably sit there and tank her punches in sage mode if he wanted to =P (mabye not actually but you get the point)

Tobirama- We haven't really seen all of his capabilities but based on what we have seen I wouldn't say Tsunade>Tobirama so quickly. He has the bringer of darkness technique which would be a hard counter to Tsunade's very linear taijutsu style. Next up he has a huge, and very powerful, chackra-he essentially made the 3rd and fourth hokage, juugo, suigetsu, sasuke, and orochimaru scared into battle readiness simply by raising his finger, and none of them are sensor types or are known for being able sense others' chakra. So that counts for something. He also had the flying thunder god slash, which was fast enough to kill Izuna Uchiha, who had MS, from this we can take that at the very least he has 1 attack that tsunade likely can't effectively counter except with her Creation Rebirth technique. Also Tobirama is known as the greatest user of water style jutsu to ever live and we really haven't seen any of that. For these reasons and the fact that the ninja of the past (Madara, Hashi, etc) are made out to be stronger and he's made out to be #3 in the pecking order, I would not be so quick to dismiss him against tsunade.

Hiruzen-Pretty hard to tell with this one really. Hiruzen trained her so he'd have extensive knowledge of her skills and techniques, and also he knows every jutsu in the leaf that is not based around a kekkei genkai. Also for those of you who say these are all c-rank techniques and useless, remember its who is using them (Shikamaru is a prime example) and they are largely the lower levels of most clan's techniques that we've seen, so he probably knows the B,A, and S rank versions of many of these techniques. He also has enma, who is a fairly powerful summon. However we haven't seen most of these in action, so until we do, Tsunade has the edge but again I wouldn't count Hiruzen down and out until we see him in upcoming chapters as an edo to see his techniques.

Minato-Actually a decent argument was made for Minato above by pandu but I'll just add a few things. He made A in lightning armor and B, a future kage and a perfect Jinchuuriki, look hilariously under-powered and slow using only taijutsu and FTG (Also I know its in the anime but A is shown losing an arm wrestle to A b/c of his speed/reaction time and Minato is faster and has bttr time than A as a comparison to speed if you want to count it). If the fight would've gone on its clear who would've had the edge. Also where are you getting he lost to Obito? As I recall he figured out how kamui worked (on a practical basis) after seeing it once and countered it. To date he's the only we've seen do that (only once being the key word here) and make obito run for the hills in his "more adult" (there's disputes as to the time frame on a couple of threads I've read), again the only person to date to do that. If you count him being hit by Kurama as a loss, remember he was hit on purpose (and I believe that's the only time we've seen him hit by anyone) and he didn't have to lose that fight, if you want I can post the page. Lastly he's also the only one any village has put flee on sight orders out for, kage don't even have that (granted hopefully there's some common sense involved on the opposing sides, such as Gennin probably shouldn't fight a kage but jounin might). Due to the very hard counter Minato is style wise to Tsunade I have to say Minato>Tsunade in a straight fight, unfortunately even if you have a 1 hit KO its no good if you can't hit him unless he wants you to.

So yea that's my thoughts, she's not the strongest and likely not the weakest but until we see more it's hard to tell =) good thread though. Lastly as far as the Sannin go my two cents is Jiraiya>Oro>Tsunade but again that's just an opinion =P I love the pervy sage =)

 

[Champ]

its a sin to here to say she will lose to sasuke when she can simple store that BLACK FLAMES IN HER YIN SEAL AND ALSO HEAL FROM IT... arrows aint doing her shitt we all know that and susanoo is weak she will smashed that just removed this sasuke issue he dont even have the YEARS OF EXPERIENCE LIKE TSUNADE much less to beat her, if you had been paying attention you would realized that all of sasuke's fight HE ALWAYS GETS HELP SILLY

Amaterasu disintegrates her

 

[zesto]

Your logic is flawed. Stamina doesnt decide a match or if someone is stronger than someone else. Kisame has loads more stamina then Might Guy. Yet Might guys defeated kisame twice.

this is true i agree, kisame had more chakra than guy, because of samehada, but more importantly he underestimated guy wich had lead to his defeat...

 

[zesto]

Hashirama- yea I agree she'd definitely lose no matter which way you slice it, hell he could probably sit there and tank her punches in sage mode if he wanted to =P (mabye not actually but you get the point)

Tobirama- We haven't really seen all of his capabilities but based on what we have seen I wouldn't say Tsunade>Tobirama so quickly. He has the bringer of darkness technique which would be a hard counter to Tsunade's very linear taijutsu style. Next up he has a huge, and very powerful, chackra-he essentially made the 3rd and fourth hokage, juugo, suigetsu, sasuke, and orochimaru scared into battle readiness simply by raising his finger, and none of them are sensor types or are known for being able sense others' chakra. So that counts for something. He also had the flying thunder god slash, which was fast enough to kill Izuna Uchiha, who had MS, from this we can take that at the very least he has 1 attack that tsunade likely can't effectively counter except with her Creation Rebirth technique. Also Tobirama is known as the greatest user of water style jutsu to ever live and we really haven't seen any of that. For these reasons and the fact that the ninja of the past (Madara, Hashi, etc) are made out to be stronger and he's made out to be #3 in the pecking order, I would not be so quick to dismiss him against tsunade.

your right i shouldn't jump to conclusions about this but in my opinon what we will see is just a higher usage of his techs nothing new, The bringer of darkness is not much of a problem for Tsunade when she has her slug katsuyu who can sense atmospheric conditions and vibrations with her bottom sensors, she could relay info instantly by telepathically.... for Tsunade to counter any sneak attacks.......
Also i want to correct you about something, the reason why he was called the greatest water style user was because he could used a great amount of water jutsu where there was no signs of water or liquid to support his technique and the fact that his jutsus consumed a considerable amount of energy to perform........

Hiruzen-Pretty hard to tell with this one really. Hiruzen trained her so he'd have extensive knowledge of her skills and techniques, and also he knows every jutsu in the leaf that is not based around a kekkei genkai. Also for those of you who say these are all c-rank techniques and useless, remember its who is using them (Shikamaru is a prime example) and they are largely the lower levels of most clan's techniques that we've seen, so he probably knows the B,A, and S rank versions of many of these techniques. He also has enma, who is a fairly powerful summon. However we haven't seen most of these in action, so until we do, Tsunade has the edge but again I wouldn't count Hiruzen down and out until we see him in upcoming chapters as an edo to see his techniques.

Hence why people shouldn't place him above her currently, in my opinion we will only see Hiruzen techniques stronger since now he's an edo tensei and has unlimited chackra

Minato-Actually a decent argument was made for Minato above by pandu but I'll just add a few things. He made A in lightning armor and B, a future kage and a perfect Jinchuuriki, look hilariously under-powered and slow using only taijutsu and FTG (Also I know its in the anime but A is shown losing an arm wrestle to A b/c of his speed/reaction time and Minato is faster and has bttr time than A as a comparison to speed if you want to count it). If the fight would've gone on its clear who would've had the edge. Also where are you getting he lost to Obito? As I recall he figured out how kamui worked (on a practical basis) after seeing it once and countered it. To date he's the only we've seen do that (only once being the key word here) and make obito run for the hills in his "more adult" (there's disputes as to the time frame on a couple of threads I've read), again the only person to date to do that. If you count him being hit by Kurama as a loss, remember he was hit on purpose (and I believe that's the only time we've seen him hit by anyone) and he didn't have to lose that fight, if you want I can post the page. Lastly he's also the only one any village has put flee on sight orders out for, kage don't even have that (granted hopefully there's some common sense involved on the opposing sides, such as Gennin probably shouldn't fight a kage but jounin might). Due to the very hard counter Minato is style wise to Tsunade I have to say Minato>Tsunade in a straight fight, unfortunately even if you have a 1 hit KO its no good if you can't hit him unless he wants you to.

So yea that's my thoughts, she's not the strongest and likely not the weakest but until we see more it's hard to tell =) good thread though. Lastly as far as the Sannin go my two cents is Jiraiya>Oro>Tsunade but again that's just an opinion =P I love the pervy sage =)

ok can you make the last part clearer and shorter, i can add that bee got Minato at one point with his sword (without bijuu or km mode) despite his ftg, so that should give you an hint that he isn't unstoppable, as for the sannins i rate jiriaya too but because the other 2 are immortal over jiraiay i would place them above him.... even when kishi made it clear that they are all equal

 

[zesto]

Amaterasu disintegrates her

how will it disintegrates her when she seals it, dont you understand the meaning of sealing, Jiriaya sealed it, gaara infused his chackra in his sand and it couldn't burn via it, Tsunade can also sealed it in that Fuuninjutsu, it has been proven and confirmed by DB so your point champ? you are always bringing a twurp like Sasuke in major battles that he's not suited for Lol, black flames isn't everything and thats the only thing he has over many ninjas today that he uses like his crotch to survive Lol

Tsunade>>Sasuke Jiriaya>>Sasuke Gaara>>Sasuke

 

[Rike Senju]

Look Out for the Amount Of Hate you Will Get.
OT: Nice Thread...

Its funny how hardcore tsunade fans like this one calls everyone who doesn't agree with the OP's opinion a hater lol @ OP she'll loose to Minato and with the upcoming chapters finally kishi will show us feats of tobi and hiruzen. Tsunade already had her time to shine and ended up being stomped by madara. Now the actual strong shinobis are gonna shine.

 

[zesto]

I had a hard time trying to figure out what you just said but from what I got out of it, you're saying that Tsunade is more intelligent than Minato? Hell no

Madara only used Genjutsu on A, he never attempted to cast it on Tsunade because he was fooling around with mokuton.....if he wanted to kill them from the start, he would have.


Naruto was able to defeat the 3rd raikage that was just as powerful, if not more powerful than Tsunade and faster....

Tsunade in every battle gets stabbed multiple times and never shown to actually defeat anyone.....her feats are nothing special, and her healing didn't save her from getting cut in half

she defeated orochimaru and kabuto and despite stab multiple times she's not dead plus when byakugou was out she didn't activated it when Dan refill her, besides she's still alive after that, something Tobirama, Minato nor Hiruzen isn't capable of doing.... go anmd re-read manga and DB bro

 

[zesto]

Its funny how hardcore tsunade fans like this one calls everyone who doesn't agree with the OP's opinion a hater lol @ OP she'll loose to Minato and with the upcoming chapters finally kishi will show us feats of tobi and hiruzen. Tsunade already had her time to shine and ended up being stomped by madara. Now the actual strong shinobis are gonna shine.

ok bro Lol whatever you say hopefully they dont get toss aside like shitt, because i would laugh my ass off

 

[Rike Senju]

ok bro Lol whatever you say hopefully they dont get toss aside like shitt, because i would laugh my ass off

Like tsunade did? lol Please they are all stronger than her and by feats 3 of them are above tsunade.
Minato - defeated obito and kyuubi.
Hashi- defeated EMS mad + kyuubi
Hiruzen- even though he was old and against weak versions of zombies managed to pull out a draw. Tsunade couldn't defeat armless oro lol

 

[Lightbringer]

she defeated orochimaru and kabuto and despite stab multiple times she's not dead plus when byakugou was out she didn't activated it when Dan refill her, besides she's still alive after that, something Tobirama, Minato nor Hiruzen isn't capable of doing.... go anmd re-read manga and DB bro

Dude you really need to start conveying things more clearly

Tsunade had jiraiya's help.....and she fought against part 1 Kabuto and a crippled Orochimaru who couldn't use his arms.....way too impressive bro

Can you link me the manga page that shows that Hashirama can't heal himself like Tsunade? Oh wait....he can

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her being able to heal doesn't make her any better at fighting....it just means it'll take more effort to kill her

 

[iKaras]

Joke of the day

Oh god yes...yes it is. I would Rep you but I must of rep you recently.

 

[MickNerks]

your wrong again here she smashed orochimaru face to pieces despite rusty and out of combat for years, she also feared blood back then and he used her weakness against her... its just as simple as that, kabuto had to take drugs to keep up with a rsty slow Tsunade then which indicates how insignificant he his to her in taijutsu and speed....
one last thing all the sannins are different people not because if orochimaru hadn't summoned those 2 means that he kills Tsunade or can beat Jiriaya bro, the 3 are different people with different abilities....

Kabuto has nothing to do with this argument. And your point that tsunade was rusty is irrelavent becuase hiruzen was rusty as well. He hasnt seen a battle since the nine-tails attacked with was 13 year before his battle with oro. And he still had orochimaru scared and defeated.

Ok i understand this perfectly but your still underestimating the WOMAN WHO DIDN'T EVEN CARE OR SURPRISED TO GET EXTERMINATED BY UCHIHA MADARA'S ULTRA FIRE KATON because she knew that cant kill her, she TANK another ultra FIRE HEAD DRAGON (dissipated the attack with her punches) SO WHATS YOUR POINT BRO? Hiruzen still cant harm her, Madara was known for the greatest fire releases

Hiruzen has more then fire release (is my point). He knows all jutsu which exist within the leaf which means he knows how to use all elements and knows all of tsunades techniques as well. And seeing how the man is hailed as a genius im sure he can come up with a way to defeat tsunade since he has such a vast arsenal and superior knowledge and battle prowess.

When did manga state such thing or databook, Tsunade has a 5 for taijutsu bro plus we have seen so many times how she pounded madara infront of the kages Katsuyu>>>Enma dont for get that, moreover if Hiruzen swings that monkey in a bamboo form she can also slice it in half with her infused raiton scalpel how many times we have seen that attacking her head is futile when the jutsu source comes FROM HER BRAIN.... SIGH dude debating with you is pointless, why didn't her head fall out by that sharp kusanagi sword, when oro sliced her in hall, the monkey's fingers fell off and it cut right via his hand and left him sore so whats your point about headless, why didn't Tsunade die after Madara USED YASAKA MAGATAMA FACE FIRST IN HER HEAD?

1. Katasuyu is NOT greater than enma

2. Tsuande cant cut enma in half, unless you are trying to say tsunade is strong enough to cut thru diamond (which she's not)


Whithout her head she cant regenerate which means she will die. Orochimaru never tried to cut her neck off so i dont see understand what you mean by saying "why didn't her head fall out by that sharp kusanagi sword, when oro sliced her in hall", and please show me where enma's fingers fell off because you may be the ONLY person who has seen that. And yes enma was sore, but he wasnt harmed. Tsunade as i said earlier will get bashed by enma. The same enma who bashed the 1st and 2nd.

Tsunade is greater than Minato indeed his low chackra potential and his weak arsenal of offensive abilities we have seen so far cant kill her so yes TSUNADE>>>>MINATO BRO... I'm not overrating her nor underrating Yellow flash but until i've seen something he can do to kill her then yes i will place him above her..

So you are admiting that you are going based only off what you have seen. Thats fine, but its not gonna help your case. You still haven provided a counter to how tsunade will respond if minato seals her yin seal off so that she cant access it.

she is on the level bro KAGES TEAM WAS CALL ULTIMATE TEAM, those guys are call big dogs, do you know the definition for ULTIMATE?

They were called the ultimate team because the hokages had not come back yet. And the kages were all solo'd by ONE man. Now when the hokages are ressurected they are called the Biggest of the Big Fish. Do you know what that expression means?

Tsunade can beat Tobirama and others but she just cant beat Hashirama I'm not stupid to think or even right a statement pertaining to that, she needs SLUG mode to rival his power............

Tsunade doesnt have slug sage mode. Nothing in the manga suggest that she does. You are seriously overrating her.

 

[zesto]

Dude you really need to start conveying things more clearly

Tsunade had jiraiya's help.....and she fought against part 1 Kabuto and a crippled Orochimaru who couldn't use his arms.....way too impressive bro

Can you link me the manga page that shows that Hashirama can't heal himself like Tsunade? Oh wait....he can

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her being able to heal doesn't make her any better at fighting....it just means it'll take more effort to kill her

sigh i said tobirama, minato nor hiruzen NOT hashirama, keep to the point yes i accepted the fact that it was a crippled orochimaru with no hands but its time you and everyone else accepts the facts that it was a rusty Tsunade out of training who feared blood and oro apprentice had to take pills to enhance his speed, so to keep up with her, you also need to accept the fact that she incapacitated kabuto more times than what he did with her and she rip orochimaru's face and broke his bones even when her CTS was rendered by kabuto

 

[Lightbringer]

sigh i said tobirama, minato nor hiruzen NOT hashirama, keep to the point yes i accepted the fact that it was a crippled orochimaru with no hands but its time you and everyone else accepts the facts that it was a rusty Tsunade out of training who feared blood and oro apprentice had to take pills to enhance his speed, so to keep up with her, you also need to accept the fact that she incapacitated kabuto more times than what he did with her and she rip orochimaru's face and broke his bones even when her CTS was rendered by kabuto

again....that was part 1 kabuto and an armless orochimaru....that's not impressive. Sasuke even defeated Orochimaru while being crippled....

and we have not seen anything from Tobirama(but judging from him being Hashirama's brother, he's probably close to his level)

Minato is shown to have godlike reflexes....if he can dodge A, then you can bet your ass he's going to run circles around Tsunade....and we haven't seen all his jutsu either(which we will soon I'm sure)

Old Hiruzen defeated prime Orochimaru with 2 edos......he would murder Tsunade regardless of healing

 

[zesto]

Oh god yes...yes it is. I would Rep you but I must of rep you recently.

i look at the user name and i see a die hard troller fanboy of tobirama who is filled with confusion, so please I'll let you explain in details why the others are greater than her (exclude hashirama I'm aware)
statements must come from manga scans or DB scans i dont want your hypocrite irrelevant fanboy opinion