Tsunade At Best High Jounin Level?

[Viewtiful]

Tsunade was high-Jonin level when she fought Hanzo. Of course she's Kage level. Wouldn't be surprised if age dulled her combat abilities some. However, her Taijutsu was still rated as a 5/5 at the time of Jiraiya's death.

 

[Blaze Release]

morning peacock a short range ? even tho its spreading out everywhere and i doubt tsuanade has the speed to counter them all

you go from close combat to short rangeU_U:flaw:
haha this is fun tho lol

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no kisame's chest was blown open by bee and he was still talking and you must have missed the place where kisame's water jutsu slow down the inpact of gai's attack. Kisame is more durable than tsunade. The reason tsunade survived kusanagi stab was be because she is still alive after the stab. Afternoon tiger would kill her before she has any chance to activate creation rebirth and she doesn't have anything that will help her reduced the impact like kisame. She can't tank life treathning tech outside creation rebirth.

Look at it this way. You thinking about power (peacock and noon tiger) > everything. But this is where you are wrong. Internal damage (tsuande's damage) > external damage (gai's taijutsu). Why do you think that the gentle fist is said to be more effective than gai and lee's taijutsu. Internal damage (stabbings) > external damage (gai's taijutsu).

If tsunade is surviving internal damage, i do not see why she cannot survive external

Also its after the stabbings did she use rebirth

 

[sG Taka]

no kisame's chest was blown open by bee and he was still talking and you must have missed the place where kisame's water jutsu slow down the inpact of gai's attack. Kisame is more durable than tsunade. The reason tsunade survived kusanagi stab was be because she is still alive after the stab. Afternoon tiger would kill her before she has any chance to activate creation rebirth and she doesn't have anything that will help her reduced the impact like kisame. She can't tank life treathning tech outside creation rebirth.

As soon as Gai goes into gates, Tsunade can activate CR.

 

[Prince Charles]

Isnt your whole basis of argument being Tsunade not showing some "kage level feats"? Is there a rule book that applies universally whether a feat could be classed as kage level or not? Feats are different and special on their own way upon comparison upon one another.

You underrate Tsunade's medical mastery right? She didnt save a couple of lives, she protected and saved almost the entire villagers with her slugs. Many ninjas cant do that, infact let me ask you a question, name one kage who can offer protection from harm and death at the very same time? If saving lives of your villagers isnt Kage material then I dont know what is U_U

yes it is but i can aruge on other things too U_U
i never underrated her med ninjutsu dont know where you get that from.

saving lives meens what ninjas save lives everytime its no different then tsuanade and its not a feat

which some were brought back by nagato
didnt minato? he stopped a raging attack from a tailed beast would of mostly likely destroyed the whole village and plp
what im saying is saving lives is not a feat yes it is important and good but their are many non kage's who do the same thing

look at part 1 naruto he stopped gaara when he was in bijuu form and if he didnt then gaara would probably go on a rampage on the hidden leaf and take innocent lives so i dont see saving lives as a feat/nor kage material

 

[KimiNiTodoke]

Maybe its that she has big boobs ? jk lol i think its cuz she has the ability to heal and save people, sometimes its not all about fighting skills, you know

 

[Viewtiful]

And to those pointing at Kabuto keeping up with her or whatever, think about it.
Kabuto was a teenager who was at Kakashi's level in Part 1 according to Jiraiya, fighting a woman in her 50s. An extremely dangerous older lady sure, but an fairly old lady all the same. Kabuto's speed was greater than hers, and IIRC, he used a military rations pill to increase his fighting capabilities considerably so that he could keep up.

 

[Prince Charles]

Katsuyu might be able to shield her from it like the individual ninjas when Pain used shinra tensei on the village

hm.. i forgot about that very likely that would happen

 

[warlee]

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Look at it this way. You thinking about power (peacock and noon tiger) > everything. But this is where you are wrong. Internal damage (tsuande's damage) > external damage (gai's taijutsu). Why do you think that the gentle fist is said to be more effective than gai and lee's taijutsu. Internal damage (stabbings) > external damage (gai's taijutsu)

if you are stab w/ kusanagi in a vital point you still got some time before you die,you can either be healed or escape. But against a k.o tech you die instantly. And the gentle fist is a k.o tech 1 hit you die

 

[sG Taka]

lol no he got nothing covered. She will beat kakashi when she can counter kamui.

Ahh I see, you're one of those people who believe Kakashi will have the time to stand ground, aim Kamui and successfully get Tsunade's brain (little target). And on top of this, since Kamui only works effectively on targets that are either standing still or moving in a straight line (i.e Pain's needle or Susanoo's arrows), you assume Tsunade will be either standing still or running in a straight line. AND on top of all this, she won't be attacking, y'know...to give Kakashi a safe environment in which he doesn't need to worry about incoming attacks so he can perform his Kamui.

Yeah, this sounds like something logical.

if you are stab w/ kusanagi in a vital point you still got some time before you die,you can either be healed or escape. But against a k.o tech you die instantly. And the gentle fist is a k.o tech 1 hit you die

OK one hit from the gentle fist and you die? Sure.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

yes it is but i can aruge on other things too U_U
i never underrated her med ninjutsu dont know where you get that from.

saving lives meens what ninjas save lives everytime its no different then tsuanade and its not a feat

which some were brought back by nagato
didnt minato? he stopped a raging attack from a tailed beast would of mostly likely destroyed the whole village and plp
what im saying is saving lives is not a feat yes it is important and good but their are many non kage's who do the same thing

look at part 1 naruto he stopped gaara when he was in bijuu form and if he didnt then gaara would probably go on a rampage on the hidden leaf and take innocent lives so i dont see saving lives as a feat/nor kage material

Oh dear now how did I know that you wouldnt be able to come up with an answer to my question..oh right its because that 'feat' is unrivalled of; no one else can probably save its villagers from harm and death at the same time. You talk of saving lives but yet fail to see the bigger picture that Tsunade is on whole another level when it comes to saving lives. Her medical abilities itself are a feat no one can match so far.

And why are you comparing people's feat? Since when was this a top ninja contest? Nagato is arguably top 5 ninja.The whole point of you not being able to understand plot comes again, you do realise that Minato was the perfect opposition for Tobi?

Anyway I'm done for now as its late here so I'll get back to you tomorrow if you are still holding high expectations of what a kage should be U_U.

 

[warlee]

As soon as Gai goes into gates, Tsunade can activate CR.

gai can last long in 6 gates if both activates at the same time tsunade will turn into an old hag b4 gai enter 7gates.

 

[Prince Charles]

Katsuyu might be able to shield her from it like the individual ninjas when Pain used shinra tensei on the village

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Look at it this way. You thinking about power (peacock and noon tiger) > everything. But this is where you are wrong. Internal damage (tsuande's damage) > external damage (gai's taijutsu). Why do you think that the gentle fist is said to be more effective than gai and lee's taijutsu. Internal damage (stabbings) > external damage (gai's taijutsu).

If tsunade is surviving internal damage, i do not see why she cannot survive external

Also its after the stabbings did she use rebirth

your right it saids short range but if you look at the picture on the link you gave me kisame is basically on guy or really near him when hes doing it in the manga chapter
shown right here

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kisame wasnt near guy like in the picture in like link you gave me

 

[Viewtiful]

OK one hit from the gentle fist and you die? Sure.

Apparently, Gentle Fists users can kill simply by blocking the chakra points around the heart. Otherwise, they can simply damage an opponents organs directly.

 

[Vexorian]

i fail to see how is she a better hokage then kakashi all she did was sheild some fodder ninja and thats about it she went down pretty quick where as kakashi atleast fought pain and almost won he did way more for the village during the pain then tsuanade they wouldnt even know the 5 second interval and other things about pain if it wasnt for kakashi saving choji and stuff. i do agree shes op in medical nin but being up against a opponent like madara uchia that medical nin is pretty much uselss.

Seems to me like you're just a hater. Any fool with half a brain could figure out how much chakra it took to protect all the fodder nins. As for Kakashi killing her? Not likely. She would strike the same type of fear into Kakashi as Orochimaru and Jiraiya would. She is hands down better at Taijutsu, and don't forget the nerve switch and the fact she has Raiton element as well. Not to mention Katsuyu. She still dared to step onto the battlefield exhausted and fight Pain because of her ideals, whereas Kakashi simply died in his attempt to fight Asura Path and Tendo, and only saved Choji. What's the use of fighting for a village with no people? She did her job well. Tsunade deserves the rank of Hokage, and is a better Kage than most of the others with the exception of Gaara, who has far more potential than any of them.

 

[Prince Charles]

Oh dear now how did I know that you wouldnt be able to come up with an answer to my question..oh right its because that 'feat' is unrivalled of; no one else can probably save its villagers from harm and death at the same time. You talk of saving lives but yet fail to see the bigger picture that Tsunade is on whole another level when it comes to saving lives. Her medical abilities itself are a feat no one can match so far.

And why are you comparing people's feat? Since when was this a top ninja contest? Nagato is arguably top 5 ninja.The whole point of you not being able to understand plot comes again, you do realise that Minato was the perfect opposition for Tobi?

Anyway I'm done for now as its late here so I'll get back to you tomorrow if you are still holding high expectations of what a kage should be U_U.

'' is on whole other level when it comes to saving lives'' does that matter? saving a life is saving a life regardless of the meens

i know her medical abilities are a feat you dont have to tell me that.
this is a forum since when are you not suppose to compare characters?
ninja contest i thought this was a reasonable discussion :shrug:
you fail
:flaw:

 

[Melizzle]

'' is on whole other level when it comes to saving lives'' does that matter? saving a life is saving a life regardless of the meens

i know her medical abilities are a feat you dont have to tell me that.
this is a forum since when are you not suppose to compare characters?
ninja contest i thought this was a reasonable discussion :shrug:
you fail
:flaw:

Finally he admits it!

 

[warlee]

Ahh I see, you're one of those people who believe Kakashi will have the time to stand ground, aim Kamui and successfully get Tsunade's brain (little target). And on top of this, since Kamui only works effectively on targets that are either standing still or moving in a straight line (i.e Pain's needle or Susanoo's arrows), you assume Tsunade will be either standing still or running in a straight line. AND on top of all this, she won't be attacking, y'know...to give Kakashi a safe environment in which he doesn't need to worry about incoming attacks so he can perform his Kamui.

Yeah, this sounds like something logical.



OK one hit from the gentle fist and you die? Sure.

deidara was shown to be fast in the air despite that kakashi was able to get his arm when he was inexperienced w/ kamui and deidara move zig zag durin the attempt,tsunade has never been shown to be fast. Kakashi don't even need kamui he can stun her w/ his raiton bushin and cut her head. How tsunade will defeat kakashi is what i can't think of.

 

[sG Taka]

deidara was shown to be fast in the air despite that kakashi was able to get his arm when he was inexperienced w/ kamui and deidara move zig zag durin the attempt,tsunade has never been shown to be fast. Kakashi don't even need kamui he can stun her w/ his raiton bushin and cut her head. How tsunade will defeat kakashi is what i can't think of.

Yes, that's a way Kakashi can beat her. Tsunade can also trip and break an ankle, I don't get your point.

I could write a whole book with 69 individual chapters each with its own unique, elaborate scenario in which Tsunade curbstomps Kakashi.

 

[Prince Charles]

Seems to me like you're just a hater. Any fool with half a brain could figure out how much chakra it took to protect all the fodder nins. As for Kakashi killing her? Not likely. She would strike the same type of fear into Kakashi as Orochimaru and Jiraiya would. She is hands down better at Taijutsu, and don't forget the nerve switch and the fact she has Raiton element as well. Not to mention Katsuyu. She still dared to step onto the battlefield exhausted and fight Pain because of her ideals, whereas Kakashi simply died in his attempt to fight Asura Path and Tendo, and only saved Choji. What's the use of fighting for a village with no people? She did her job well. Tsunade deserves the rank of Hokage, and is a better Kage than most of the others with the exception of Gaara, who has far more potential than any of them.

hater sorry i dont hate on fictional characters not my stlye
were not talking about jiraiya or orochimaru and what fear does tsuanade have lol? hands down better? kakashi has shown pretty good taijutsu which could keep up with hers. kakashi has summons also

your point kakashi's death wasnt pointless because of him naruto probably wouldnt even be able to win if it wasnt for the intel kakashi obtained:flaw:

all i remember is tsuanade standing up to pain and then a yellow haired ninja saving her ass twice. better hokage then others? lmfao yes a was a good idea letting jman go by himself on a suicide mission, and her past isnt even good she was a gambler, was planning on sacrificing jman for her selfish needs.
and for you to say she is a better kage than most is a fail i bet hashirama or tobirama wouldnt even allow pain to destory the village i bet hiruzen would put up a better fight and his a old ass geezer:flaw:

 

[Prince Charles]

Finally he admits it!

lol i always knew her med ninjutsu was a feat ? are you really surprised at that.