Tsunade and Sasori vs Jiraiya and Orochimaru

[Bantos]

Team 1 takes this.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Team 2 mid diff.

Oro beats Sasori and Jiraiya beats Tsunade.

 

[Nattana]

Team 2 mid diff.

Oro beats Sasori and Jiraiya beats Tsunade.

I think it's the first time we agree on something ^^

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Jiraiya's rasengan- which isn't oneshotting the 3rd Kazekage, let alone Hiruko.

Slap yourself.

Jiraiya's SM rasengan would absolutely wreck Hiruko, Kazekage and his iron sand blocks. It would also probably kill Sasori if it hit him, since his heart would get crushed.

 

[Zexion~]

No i haven't had to rush for school...

Anyway's my man, you do realize that the human body is rather spacious on the inside, our veins can stretch around the world twice and our intestines are around 27 ft long, lmao, so this body comparison thing is nice and all but its rather pointless in saying he can hold as much sand as a tsunami, Fact remains that he expands it, i mean unless you want to argue he creates metallic sand out of nowhere, which means it lessens in volume but increases in size, now notice how thin he had to make those strands of sand in ISWO, imagine him having to expand large enough to create a tsunami, :| It would be basically useless......

Another thing which i think i stated earlier, the time it takes would basically render it useless as well, as any shinobi could easily defeat sasori in that gap...

 

[Shura]

No i haven't had to rush for school...

Anyway's my man, you do realize that the human body is rather spacious on the inside, our veins can stretch around the world twice and our intestines are around 27 ft long, lmao, so this body comparison thing is nice and all but its rather pointless in saying he can hold as much sand as a tsunami, Fact remains that he expands it, i mean unless you want to argue he creates metallic sand out of nowhere, which means it lessens in volume but increases in size, now notice how thin he had to make those strands of sand in ISWO, imagine him having to expand large enough to create a tsunami, :| It would be basically useless......

Another thing which i think i stated earlier, the time it takes would basically render it useless as well, as any shinobi could easily defeat sasori in that gap...

Lmao. Zexion he does create new metallic particles out of 'nowhere' as you state because otherwise if he didn't, all of that Satetsu would have returned to it's original amount once the Sandaime was destroyed. Sandaime's Magnetism grants him this ability. Whenever the Satetsu expands, it's even more deadlier than the smaller Satetsu attacks as seen in the manga. As for your point that it takes too much time, no it doesn't. Sasori decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's Magnetism and not you nor me. [

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] And note how long it took him to create and magnetize something as big as those Satetsu blocks. [

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] Two manga panels and this was mainly due to the fact that Sasori was shaping them and he obviously wouldn't have to shape a Tsunami. Also here is proof that Sasori decides on the speed of the Satetsu because he managed to shape and create something larger than those Satetsu blocks in even less time. [

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[Zexion~]

Lmao. Zexion he does create new metallic particles out of 'nowhere' as you state because otherwise if he didn't, all of that Satetsu would have returned to it's original amount once the Sandaime was destroyed. Sandaime's Magnetism grants him this ability. Whenever the Satetsu expands, it's even more deadlier than the smaller Satetsu attacks as seen in the manga. As for your point that it takes too much time, no it doesn't. Sasori decides on how fast the Satetsu will be by using the Sandaime's Magnetism and not you nor me. [

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] And note how long it took him to create and magnetize something as big as those Satetsu blocks. [

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] Two manga panels and this was mainly due to the fact that Sasori was shaping them and he obviously wouldn't have to shape a Tsunami. Also here is proof that Sasori decides on the speed of the Satetsu because he managed to shape and create something larger than those Satetsu blocks in even less time. [

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What are you saying? Nowhere did he create anything larger than those blocks, he combined them and then split them apart into multiple strands. Second, do you not realize that the speed of when he "creates these out of nothing" Decreases depending on how big they are? Why? Because they lose the density and volume of the IS, Small ones are more compact larger ones are much less compact, So he doesn't create new sand out of no where, lol, btw as i said before the IS "River" Is not that big, ....so i'd like you to post scans of these supposed rivers of IS that were present before the 3rd was destroyed as well, as i don't recall any.

 

[Shura]

What are you saying? Nowhere did he create anything larger than those blocks, he combined them and then split them apart into multiple strands. Second, do you not realize that the speed of when he "creates these out of nothing" Decreases depending on how big they are? Why? Because they lose the density and volume of the IS, Small ones are more compact larger ones are much less compact, So he doesn't create new sand out of no where, lol, btw as i said before the IS "River" Is not that big, ....so i'd like you to post scans of these supposed rivers of IS that were present before the 3rd was destroyed as well, as i don't recall any.

Zexion. That's clearly not the case as there is a lot more Satetsu in those multiple strands than there was in those blocks. [

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] And sure, it decreases in speed, but like I said. Sasori is the one who decides on how fast it will be, so he makes them faster again by adding more magnetism. And he does create new Satetsu out of no where since there was a small amount of Satetsu when it first came out of the Sandaime's mouths and then later when it got destroyed, in that Satetsu river alone there was a shit ton more Satetsu. Not to mention that Sasori basically used almost all of the Satetsu that came out of the Kazekage's mouths for those Satetsu Spears. [

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] Don't try to say that Sasori took the Satetsu from those spears back when he made those huge Satetsu Blocks because he didn't since the Satetsu Spears were there even after Sasori created the Satetsu Blocks. [

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] As for more pictures of the Satetsu rives, just keep on looking between the rocks in the next scans I post. [

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] There are more, but this should be enough. The whole battlefield is full of the Satetsu on the ground.

 

[Zexion~]

Zexion. That's clearly not the case as there is a lot more Satetsu in those multiple strands than there was in those blocks. [

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] And sure, it decreases in speed, but like I said. Sasori is the one who decides on how fast it will be, so he makes them faster again by adding more magnetism. And he does create new Satetsu out of no where since there was a small amount of Satetsu when it first came out of the Sandaime's mouths and then later when it got destroyed, in that Satetsu river alone there was a shit ton more Satetsu. Not to mention that Sasori basically used almost all of the Satetsu that came out of the Kazekage's mouths for those Satetsu Spears. [

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] Don't try to say that Sasori took the Satetsu from those spears back when he made those huge Satetsu Blocks because he didn't since the Satetsu Spears were there even after Sasori created the Satetsu Blocks. [

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] As for more pictures of the Satetsu rives, just keep on looking between the rocks in the next scans I post. [

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] There are more, but this should be enough. The whole battlefield is full of the Satetsu on the ground.

*sigh* not really, as i said before, It was compacted into the blocks, making it seem smaller U_U

Bro, Its the same sand ...

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notice how he's behind it all,

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he remained in the same spot for this one :| don't say that shit in the upper scans is IS as its clearly just shadows, the IS never got over there This is that same IS as in the first scan, as he was behind it before, now he's trying to fly over it

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Chiyo and Sakura moved up to hide behind the pertruding rocks

However regardless for either of is being right on the matter fact is its barely layering the ground or rocks, when as you pointed out

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it should be covering everywhere, But nope, you can only see it in the crevices, as the volume of the IS in WO was not that large,

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also look at how it disperses, you can tell its not that much in quantity,

Again, as i said Sasori Can't make the larger ones as fast because they are not as compacted and are to light and less dense, Sasori may be able to change the speed a little, but nothing suggests that he can make it go as fast as the smaller varients,

What are you saying about the spears 0.o, After they were launched he excreted more IS from his body :|

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thought you would know this U_U

 

[Shura]

*sigh* not really, as i said before, It was compacted into the blocks, making it seem smaller U_U

Bro, Its the same sand ...

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notice how he's behind it all,

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he remained in the same spot for this one :| don't say that shit in the upper scans is IS as its clearly just shadows, the IS never got over there This is that same IS as in the first scan, as he was behind it before, now he's trying to fly over it

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Chiyo and Sakura moved up to hide behind the pertruding rocks

However regardless for either of is being right on the matter fact is its barely layering the ground or rocks, when as you pointed out

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it should be covering everywhere, But nope, you can only see it in the crevices, as the volume of the IS in WO was not that large,

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also look at how it disperses, you can tell its not that much in quantity,

Again, as i said Sasori Can't make the larger ones as fast because they are not as compacted and are to light and less dense, Sasori may be able to change the speed a little, but nothing suggests that he can make it go as fast as the smaller varients,

What are you saying about the spears 0.o, After they were launched he excreted more IS from his body :|

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thought you would know this U_U

You just ended yourself right there. Was expecting you to point that out. Sasori released more Satetsu from the Sandaime's body and there was enough Satetsu there to make Satetsu blocks and wings which were all bigger and wider than the Sandaime himself. [

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] He also had that previous Satetsu stored in him. [

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] There is absolutely no way, no matter how you look at it, that Sasori could have kept all that Iron Sand inside that one puppet which means that after Sasori released the first amount of Satetsu, he created completely new amounts of Satetsu inside the Puppet and released it out. And about the Satetsu rivers, no. Sasori was running to Chiyo and across the battlefield and everywhere he went, there was Satetsu beneath him. You also showed that the Kaihou returned to Iron Sand after the Puppet got destroyed which proves that Sasori created new Satetsu. [

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] How all that Satetsu didn't fell on the rocks and fell in the gaps instead is beyond me. It's just one of Kishi's fails.

And those blocks don't have as much as Satetsu, Kaihou does. Just look at the blocks compared to the cave [

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] I don't even know how you came to the conclusion that the Satetsu Blocks have as much as Satetsu that Satetsu Kaihou does. And Zexion, the Satetsu being bigger or not doesn't mean shit to speed. Sasori decides on how fast it will be. They may not be as fast as the smaller ones, but they can still be extremely fast. The end.

 

[Zexion~]

You just ended yourself right there. Was expecting you to point that out. Sasori released more Satetsu from the Sandaime's body and there was enough Satetsu there to make Satetsu blocks and wings which were all bigger and wider than the Sandaime himself. [

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] He also had that previous Satetsu stored in him. [

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] There is absolutely no way, no matter how you look at it, that Sasori could have kept all that Iron Sand inside that one puppet which means that after Sasori released the first amount of Satetsu, he created completely new amounts of Satetsu inside the Puppet and released it out. And about the Satetsu rivers, no. Sasori was running to Chiyo and across the battlefield and everywhere he went, there was Satetsu beneath him. You also showed that the Kaihou returned to Iron Sand after the Puppet got destroyed which proves that Sasori created new Satetsu. [

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] How all that Satetsu didn't fell on the rocks and fell in the gaps instead is beyond me. It's just one of Kishi's fails.

And those blocks don't have as much as Satetsu, Kaihou does. Just look at the blocks compared to the cave [

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] I don't even know how you came to the conclusion that the Satetsu Blocks have as much as Satetsu that Satetsu Kaihou does. And Zexion, the Satetsu being bigger or not doesn't mean shit to speed. Sasori decides on how fast it will be. They may not be as fast as the smaller ones, but they can still be extremely fast. The end.

Your not getting the part about how compression, oh well, i have a feeling i'll be debating you in another thread, so i'll give this one too ya, untill you use it there,

Also no it doesn't .....Clinging to single sentances to prove your point is not going to work anymore, He can't make those large ones break the sound barrier until you get a feat of it doing so...