Tsunade and Sakura v Jiraiya and Naruto
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Not in this world, not in the next.
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You should take my place in the debate.
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This jutsu will annihilate slug.
SM reflexes are way beyond the other two's. Also, pervy-sage's speed > other two. The only problem here is Tsunade. Sakura, probably will be captured in this jutsu :
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Unlike Manda ( who couldn't fight back due to the lack of range ), Katsuyu has a ranged offensive ability, called acid. Jiraiya and Bunta have to stay still in order to use this technique, and Tsunade is fully aware of this. The moment they are about to use it, the slug can simply shoot acid at them, instantly killing Jiraiya or forcing him to dodge.
If this isn't working for some reason, well gj, they killed ~5 of the slug and wasted a lot of chakra. Tsunade or Sakura can summon an another one.
Speed is not the only thing that decides who wins a battle. The fans of this manga are masturbating to it or idk why is it always the most popular argument in a vs thread.
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"Unlike Manda ( who couldn't fight back due to the lack of range ), Katsuyu has a ranged offensive ability, called acid. "
What ? how so small acid can deal with a fire, which is SO large ? : | + it's an instant technique. they just can't stop it.
"Tsunade or Sakura can summon an another one. "
There are only 1 slug. after summoning, it can be divided. + can you tell me, where have you seen, that Tsunade ain't summoning slug's full body ? nowhere. + It's just illogical, not to summon full body
"Speed is not the only thing that decides who wins a battle. The fans of this manga are masturbating to it or idk why is it always the most popular argument in a vs thread."
At this type of battle, speed decides who wins a battle. Why ? Tsunade wasn't able to HIT properly Orochimaru, who wasn't able to use hands. Here we have SM Jiraiya. Feel the difference ?
What ? how so small acid can deal with a fire, which is SO large ? : | + it's an instant technique. they just can't stop it.
"Tsunade or Sakura can summon an another one. "
There are only 1 slug. after summoning, it can be divided. + can you tell me, where have you seen, that Tsunade ain't summoning slug's full body ? nowhere. + It's just illogical, not to summon full body
"Speed is not the only thing that decides who wins a battle. The fans of this manga are masturbating to it or idk why is it always the most popular argument in a vs thread."
At this type of battle, speed decides who wins a battle. Why ? Tsunade wasn't able to HIT properly Orochimaru, who wasn't able to use hands. Here we have SM Jiraiya. Feel the difference ?
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I wouldn't call it
It is far from instant. Manda had plenty of time to shed his skin and go underground,
Katsuyu is an enormous creature who was never summoned in her full size. Look what Orochimaru says here [
You are talking about a Tsunade who hadn't fought in nearly 30 years and hadn't slept for a week. She was still able to beat the living crap out of him once she managed to overcome her fear of blood, so I don't see what's your point there. It was Jiraiya who wasn't able to touch him at all to begin with.
BTW, don't forget a small portion of Katsuyu was able to withstand Naruto's eight-tailed form and Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. It ain't that easy to kill her.
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. We are talking about a Bijuu sized creature's ability after all. It is far from instant. Manda had plenty of time to shed his skin and go underground,
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to get far behind Gamabunta and
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herself. Katsuyu is an enormous creature who was never summoned in her full size. Look what Orochimaru says here [
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further proves my point because it shows both Tsunade and Sakura are required to summon 1/10 of the slug. [
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]You are talking about a Tsunade who hadn't fought in nearly 30 years and hadn't slept for a week. She was still able to beat the living crap out of him once she managed to overcome her fear of blood, so I don't see what's your point there. It was Jiraiya who wasn't able to touch him at all to begin with.
BTW, don't forget a small portion of Katsuyu was able to withstand Naruto's eight-tailed form and Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. It ain't that easy to kill her.
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Both. Sarcastic in the sense that you're obviously not taking my place considering the debate is set in stone at this point but it is also a sincere compliment because I didn't notice Katsuyu is much larger than the fodder snake trapped in YN until you posted that scan.
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J-man that used that swamp could only muster enough chakra to summon Gamakichi so there was definitely a huge toll on the amount of chakra he could use so at the very least the swamp he could make should scale at enough for a boss summon.
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"I wouldn't call it "little". We are talking about a Bijuu sized creature's ability after all.
It is far from instant. Manda had plenty of time to shed his skin and go underground, Katsuyu had the time to get far behind Gamabunta and reform herself. "
Compare to jiraiya's fire technique, it's nothing. Katsuyu had time to get behind Gamabunta only cuz Jiraiya told tsunade to move out : | and didn't use technique, until they were in the safe zone.
"Katsuyu is an enormous creature who was never summoned in her full size. Look what Orochimaru says here [X]. This scan further proves my point because it shows both Tsunade and Sakura are required to summon 1/10 of the slug. [X]"
Lol what ? : D Slug's full size was shown, when Tsunade summoned him in the konoha, to protect and heal people. Orochimaru said it, cuz he said : D to say shortly, look at the size at your scan, and now look at this :
AND, Tsuna/Sakura weren't able to summon them in THAT VERY MOMENT, cuz they didn't have enough chakra AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
" You are talking about a Tsunade who hadn't fought in nearly 30 years and hadn't slept for a week. She was still able to beat the living crap out of him once she managed to overcome her fear of blood, so I don't see what's your point there."
The point was next : Even when Tsunade hit Orochimaru 10-20 times, with his super strenght, killed him only 1 time. Now you got it ? Jiraiya's reflexes are way beyond these two. they won't be able to even hit him. And even if they do it, Jiraiya simply won't take any serious damage.
It is far from instant. Manda had plenty of time to shed his skin and go underground, Katsuyu had the time to get far behind Gamabunta and reform herself. "
Compare to jiraiya's fire technique, it's nothing. Katsuyu had time to get behind Gamabunta only cuz Jiraiya told tsunade to move out : | and didn't use technique, until they were in the safe zone.
"Katsuyu is an enormous creature who was never summoned in her full size. Look what Orochimaru says here [X]. This scan further proves my point because it shows both Tsunade and Sakura are required to summon 1/10 of the slug. [X]"
Lol what ? : D Slug's full size was shown, when Tsunade summoned him in the konoha, to protect and heal people. Orochimaru said it, cuz he said : D to say shortly, look at the size at your scan, and now look at this :
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lazy to search manga page.. AND, Tsuna/Sakura weren't able to summon them in THAT VERY MOMENT, cuz they didn't have enough chakra AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
" You are talking about a Tsunade who hadn't fought in nearly 30 years and hadn't slept for a week. She was still able to beat the living crap out of him once she managed to overcome her fear of blood, so I don't see what's your point there."
The point was next : Even when Tsunade hit Orochimaru 10-20 times, with his super strenght, killed him only 1 time. Now you got it ? Jiraiya's reflexes are way beyond these two. they won't be able to even hit him. And even if they do it, Jiraiya simply won't take any serious damage.