[VS] Tsunade and Onoki vs Ay and Bee

[Liath]

Tsunade and Onoki vs Ay and Bee

**War Arc-era abilities. Ay has both arms. Bee's scarf is also slashed as in his fight against Obito. Whether this has an effect on team 2's morale is up for discussion.**
Location: Barren Wasteland
Intel: They know they are the kages and shinobi of other villages, they also know Bee is the jinchuriki of the eight tails.
Restrictions: None
Starting Distance: 30 meters
Mindset: Bloody murder

I personally am really stumped on this one. I think tsunade and onoki make a good team, but then again A and B have been a team since they were kids! What do u guys think? Be sure to explain why.

 

[Legendary Slug Sage]

Team 1 mid diff

 

[Liath]

Team 1 mid diff

por que, ms. slug sage??

 

[Legendary Slug Sage]

Tsunade and onoki spam that huge jinton

 

[SonTj]

tsunade's byakugou>Ay
onoki's jinton>Killer Bee
team#1 takes this

 

[Obito3631]

tsunade's byakugou>Ay
onoki's jinton>Killer Bee
team#1 takes this

This is beyond comical, Ay would chop Tsunade's head off easily, she can not even touch him, let alone beat him.

However it would be a better idea to take down Onoki first since Tsunade isn't even close to being a threat to either of them, Ay can speed blitz him and kill him before he takes flight. Even if Onoki manages to go airborne, Ay can easily jump to reach him and fatally strike him before he cast Jinton, and Onoki is too slow to react to Ay's speed, not to mention he has back problems, there is no way he is dodging his punch, KCM Naruto even stated that his punch would have killed him if he hadn't blocked it, it would literally destroy Onoki

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Also in Naruto vs Ay's fight you can see Ay's fist is actually bigger than Naruto's head, his fist alone is roughly the size of Onoki. You do the maths.

Needles to say Bee would annihilate Tsunade. TBB in the face and it is over.


Edit: Never mind Onoki taking flight, 30 meters is sufficient for V2 Ay to speed blitz him and punch a hole in him before he takes flight

Ay and Bee takes this low diff.

 

[Liath]

This is beyond comical, Ay would chop Tsunade's head off easily, she can not even touch him, let alone beat him.

However it would be a better idea to take down Onoki first since Tsunade isn't even close to being a threat to either of them, Ay can speed blitz him and kill him before he takes flight. Even if Onoki manages to go airborne, Ay can easily jump to reach him and fatally strike him before he cast Jinton, and Onoki is too slow to react to Ay's speed, not to mention he has back problems, there is no way he is dodging his punch, KCM Naruto even stated that his punch would have killed him if he hadn't blocked it, it would literally destroy Onoki, blood and guts will be raining on Tsunade's head.

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Needles to say Bee would annihilate Tsunade. TBB in the face and it is over.

edit: it is also possible that tsunade summons katsuyu and they hide inside to survive TBB, which im assuming consumes a helluva lot of chakra. but i think i overall agree, team 2 has the advantage in this.


Edit: Never mind Onoki taking flight, 30 meters is sufficient for V2 Ay to speed blitz him before he goes airborne

Ay and Bee takes this low diff.

so, to play devils advocate, couldnt onoki use doton bunshin and scatter into the air, making it difficult for ay to blitz him? and keep in mind this is a 2 v 2 team effort, not two separate 1 v 1's.

 

[Legendary Slug Sage]

Tsunade and onoki fly in the air and spam that huge jinton they did in the madara fight.
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[Obito3631]

so, to play devils advocate, couldnt onoki use doton bunshin and scatter into the air, making it difficult for ay to blitz him? and keep in mind this is a 2 v 2 team effort, not two separate 1 v 1's.

Do you honestly believe he will have the time to go airborne and make doton clones and scatter them before Ay speed blitz him in his V2? Did you know Ay went that far in the air in the blink of an eye?

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[Obito3631]

Tsunade and onoki fly in the air and spam that huge jinton they did in the madara fight.
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So you're saying that with a 30 meters distance, Onoki will have the time to grant Tsunade the ability to fly, actually take flight and then cast Jinton before Ay chops both their head off? Try harder fanboy.

Also this

Ay is definetly too fast to hit with a huge jinton .

 

[blackstar9]

Tsunade and onoki fly in the air and spam that huge jinton they did in the madara fight.
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Ay is definetly too fast to hit with a huge jinton .

 

[warlee]

30m? Bee and A can blitz at this distance. And bee can fire bijuu ball to counter jinton, his whirlwind jutsu clear forest and also his bijuu ball barrage.

 

[SonTj]

This is beyond comical, Ay would chop Tsunade's head off easily, she can not even touch him, let alone beat him.

However it would be a better idea to take down Onoki first since Tsunade isn't even close to being a threat to either of them, Ay can speed blitz him and kill him before he takes flight. Even if Onoki manages to go airborne, Ay can easily jump to reach him and fatally strike him before he cast Jinton, and Onoki is too slow to react to Ay's speed, not to mention he has back problems, there is no way he is dodging his punch, KCM Naruto even stated that his punch would have killed him if he hadn't blocked it, it would literally destroy Onoki, blood and guts will be raining on Tsunade's head.

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Also in Naruto vs Ay's fight you can see Ay's fist is actually bigger than Naruto's head, his fist alone is roughly the size of Onoki. You do the maths.

Needles to say Bee would annihilate Tsunade. TBB in the face and it is over.


Edit: Never mind Onoki taking flight, 30 meters is sufficient for V2 Ay to speed blitz him before he takes flight and punch a hole through him.

Ay and Bee takes this low diff.

overall tsunade is stronger than A because she way stronger than him, he needed onoki's doton weighting to even break susanoo while she did easily without help

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, had more reaction than him during the madara fight, deflected madara's fire balls while A was still standing there

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, she has regeneration so his physical speed attacks wont work on her

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and has her giant summoning that can give him some problems, don't overestimate raikage and under estimate her also so raikage can dodge something this big that took out like 25 giant susanoo clones really lmao

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[Obito3631]

overall tsunade is stronger than A because she way stronger than him, he needed onoki's doton weighting to even break susanoo while she did easily without help

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, had more reaction than him during the madara fight, deflected madara's fire balls while A was still standing there

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, she has regeneration so his physical speed attacks wont work on her

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and has her giant summoning that can give him some problems, don't overestimate raikage and under estimate her also so raikage can dodge something this big that took out like 25 giant susanoo clones really lmao

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Tsunade is not stronger than Ay she may be physically stronger but Ay still destroys her in a fight, what good is being strong if you can't even touch your opponent?

Regeneration will not save her once she gets her head chopped off.

Did you really just say she has better reaction speed than Ay whose reaction speed in V2 was said to be on par with minato? wow. Tsunade is nowhere near that level

Didn't the real Madara escape the jutsu? And he is unquestionably slower than Ay.

Once Ay speed blitz it's over, Onoki can't escape, dodge or react in time.

I think you are the one underestimating how deadly Ay's insane speed and physical strength combined with his raiton armor is.

 

[SonTj]

Tsunade is not stronger than Ay she may be physically stronger but Ay still destroys her in a fight, what good is being strong if you can't even touch your opponent?

Regeneration will not save her once she gets her head chopped off.

Did you really just say she has better reaction speed than Ay whose reaction speed in V2 was said to be on par with minato? wow. Tsunade is nowhere near that level

Didn't the real Madara escape the jutsu? And he is unquestionably slower than Ay.

Once Ay speed blitz it's over, Onoki can't escape, dodge or react in time.

I think you are the one underestimating how deadly Ay's insane speed and physical strength combined with his raiton armor can be.

i didn't say tsunade is faster than ay but in these scenes she is more impressive than him also his chop made a little crack on madara's suasanoo with doton weighting without it didn't even scratch it while tsunades kick shattered it im not saying tsunade is durable as susanoo but your over rating his chops and he always go for punchs most of the time like with sasuke and madara

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also if madara can block a punch from him with ease and he is not physically strong as tsunade she can block it the same way if kcm naruto had problems blocking his doesn't mean everyone will have problems either (i know madara has sharingan but raikage is faster than the sharingan can track and he still blocked it?) and the only reason madara escaped because he was way behind his clones when they attacked so he was more out side the jinton's blast radius
im not saying tsunade beats him everytime but 6/10 she can thats IMO hehe

 

[SonTj]

Tsunade is not stronger than Ay she may be physically stronger but Ay still destroys her in a fight, what good is being strong if you can't even touch your opponent?

Regeneration will not save her once she gets her head chopped off.
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and since raikage never chopped anyones head off before without killer bee explain why when raikage did his almighty chop to sasuke why wasn't sasuke's head rolling on the floor but instead he just spat blood with no neck pain granted he had susanoo slow down the impact but still his neck should have been broken or something

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im not being a fanboy im just saying i think tsunade has a chance at beating him thats all

 

[Obito3631]

i didn't say tsunade is faster than ay but in these scenes she is more impressive than him also his chop made a little crack on madara's suasanoo with doton weighting without it didn't even scratch it while tsunades kick shattered it im not saying tsunade is durable as susanoo but your over rating his chops and he always go for punchs most of the time like with sasuke and madara

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also if madara can block a punch from him with ease and he is not physically strong as tsunade she can block it the same way if kcm naruto had problems blocking his doesn't mean everyone will have problems either (i know madara has sharingan but raikage is faster than the sharingan can track and he still blocked it?) and the only reason madara escaped because he was way behind his clones when they attacked so he was more out side the jinton's blast radius
im not saying tsunade beats him everytime but 6/10 she can thats IMO hehe

A little crack? Are you assuming this? Just because he hit him from behind and you could not see the damages does not necessarily mean they were minor.

Also he was not in his V2.

According to Naruto, blocking Ay's punch felt like a million pound crashing against his arm, he blocked it with ease? I do not think so, moreover, did you even see how far he was sent flying? Also he was an edo so he could not feel pain.

Madara has the sharingan precognition plus he blocked the punch hence why it did not really damage him.
How will Tsunade predict where he is going to hit if her reaction speed is far inferior to Ay's? Not to mention she is slow.

Yes the Raikage is fast however it does not mean one cant react in time, the only people who could react to his speed were Sasuke,Naruto and Madara, what do all these people have in common? Exceptional speed and reflexes. Naruto has excellent reflexes and speed in top of that due to KCM, and both Sasuke and Madara have the sharingan, so they were able to react in time and protect themselves even if they could not dodge Ay's attacks, Tsunade would not be able to react to his speed in time, she will not even be able to block it as she has no way of knowing where he would direct his attacks, her reflexes are nowhere close to Naruto or Minato's level and she does not have the sharingan.

I do not understand how you think she can beat him if she can not touch him in the first place. It is clear that Ay is way out of her league.

 

[Obito3631]

and since raikage never chopped anyones head off before without killer bee explain why when raikage did his almighty chop to sasuke why wasn't sasuke's head rolling on the floor but instead he just spat blood with no neck pain granted he had susanoo slow down the impact but still his neck should have been broken or something

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im not being a fanboy im just saying i think tsunade has a chance at beating him thats all

Well as you can clearly see, unless you have vision issues, Sasuke was protected by susanoo ribcages, also this image is from the anime which has never been canon. Even the wikia says the chop actually snapped the bones of its ribcages, that is how powerful his chop truly is. Obviously , a chop has more cutting power than a punch, and KCM Naruto stated that he would have been killed by one of his punch if he hadn't blocked it, this is self explanatory.

Tsunade cant react to his speed, she will get her head chopped off or her face obliterated by Ay's punch.

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[TheEvilOne]

It can go either way, but I give to Tsunade and Onoki high difficulty. Tsunade and Katsuyu can keep A busy until Onoki jintons Bee's head off. Together they than gangbang on the Raikage.

 

[SonTj]

A little crack? Are you assuming this? Just because he hit him from behind and you could not see the damages does not necessarily mean they were minor.

no im not assuming this ay with onoki

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ay without onoki

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also i know that pick was the anime one its looks just like the manga one so same damn thing and if you want to get picky my anime pick is more canon then relying on wiki for info since its not entirely legit but back on point both of these characters can beat each other ok and we can't forget about onoki and killer bee haha killer bee is not fast as ay to dodge tsunade and onoki's giant jinton so he dies and i know you can't think ay can solo tsunade and onoki o_0 team#1 GG