Tsunade and Kakashi vs Pain

[lol99]

umm why are people saying deva path can be summoned back

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,it was implied that kamui's dimension cannot be accessed by other space-time techniques

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[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Neigher Kakashi neigher Tsunade was able stand against Deva alone, plus they are weaker than Jiraiya so Pain wins this mid diff at best

Current Kakashi can most likely defeat Jiraiya. Kamui > Jman, He has no counter to it.

@princess
okay lets go with your way
kakashi starts with kamui
kamuis deva path
the other paths summons him back =DD
chibaku tensei= gg tsunade and kakashi

Read what Bogard wrote before posting :y

 

[Bogard]

@princess
okay lets go with your way
kakashi starts with kamui
kamuis deva path
the other paths summons him back =DD
chibaku tensei= gg tsunade and kakashi

Impossible to summon someone back from Kamui dimension. Deva is the only threat concerning Pain. Once he is send in the other dimension, i'm sure the other Pains will be defeated easily

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Okay once you run out of ideas you start using someone else as your sheild huh?
Alright then i will answer Bogard :y
i know about kamui and that he can spam with with the help of chakra but what everyone seems to ignore is the threat to the user while he is using it
anyone can come up from behind and knock kakashi down
and when its a team of 6
they are more than capable of doing that i guess

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Okay once you run out of ideas you start using someone else as your sheild huh?
Alright then i will answer Bogard :y
i know about kamui and that he can spam with with the help of chakra but what everyone seems to ignore is the threat to the user while he is using it
anyone can come up from behind and knock kakashi down
and when its a team of 6
they are more than capable of doing that i guess

Knock Kakashi down? Are you kidding me? Nah, this was a stupid argument.. Try harder

 

[Bogard]

Okay once you run out of ideas you start using someone else as your sheild huh?
Alright then i will answer Bogard :y
i know about kamui and that he can spam with with the help of chakra but what everyone seems to ignore is the threat to the user while he is using it
anyone can come up from behind and knock kakashi down
and when its a team of 6
they are more than capable of doing that i guess

Sure but what you forget is that Kakashi is not fighting alone. There is Tsunade also who can even use a summon(katsuyu) that can multiply. So they can easily buy time to Kakashi or slow down the Paths, the time he spam kamuis

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Nope i havent
pains summons>tsunade summons

also even if i consider kakashi taking out deva path which is highly unlikely (cuz he is surrounded by other paths and they can buy more than enough time for chibaku tensei)

he will be exhausted like hell
that means he needs chakra
tsunade cant restore him cuz she is busy with the others
anyone out of the 5 can take out kakashi by that time

 

[Exaar]

I think people are simply forgetting just how Over powered animal paths summonings are.

Nothing Kakashi or tsunade has can take down cerberus besides kamui, Even then using it on something so Big will make kakashi vulnerable for a short time, Making him an easy target for Banshō Ten'in into any one of these paths Deva/preta/Asura/human.

Not to mention nagato's chameleon summon that can do sneak attacks while it's camouflaged, Nagato's flying summon doing aerial attack and his centipede doing attacked from underground, the rhino charging and i'm sure there might be more animals he can summon.
This is just Animal path, Kakashi won't have the time to Focus a path and kamui him with all these summons plus 3 or more paths on his ass.
Also since both Tsunade and kakashi know about each others moves, If human path gets ahold of one of them, Pain will instantly know everything Kakashi/Tsunade know about each other.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Nope i havent
pains summons>tsunade summons

also even if i consider kakashi taking out deva path which is highly unlikely (cuz he is surrounded by other paths and they can buy more than enough time for chibaku tensei)

he will be exhausted like hell
that means he needs chakra
tsunade cant restore him cuz she is busy with the others
anyone out of the 5 can take out kakashi by that time

Tsunade just needs to touch the summons or path ONCE to paralyze them with the body pathway derangement.
Sakura, who was a chuunin, killed a Pain summon with 1 punch. I bet Tsunade can do the same too.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I think people are simply forgetting just how Over powered animal paths summonings are.

Nothing Kakashi or tsunade has can take down cerberus besides kamui, Even then using it on something so Big will make kakashi vulnerable for a short time, Making him an easy target for Banshō Ten'in into any one of these paths Deva/preta/Asura/human.

Not to mention nagato's chameleon summon that can do sneak attacks while it's camouflaged, Nagato's flying summon doing aerial attack and his centipede doing attacked from underground, the rhino charging and i'm sure there might be more animals he can summon.
This is just Animal path, Kakashi won't have the time to Focus a path and kamui him with all these summons plus 3 or more paths on his ass.
Also since both Tsunade and kakashi know about each others moves, If human path gets ahold of one of them, Pain will instantly know everything Kakashi/Tsunade know about each other.

You forget about the Body Pathway Derangement.

 

[Exaar]

You forget about the Body Pathway Derangement.

Ha good luck hitting a multi headed dog on the back of the neck while getting attacked by other summoned + 1-3 paths, especially due to her lack of speed feats.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Ha good luck hitting a multi headed dog on the back of the neck while getting attacked by other summoned + 1-3 paths, especially due to her lack of speed feats.

As I know the summons don't have long ranged attacks, so they need to get close to Tsunade. She needs to TOUCH and not punch them.
And she has several speed feats, if you wish I can give manga scans too.

 

[Prince of Persia TTT]

Do you think while she attacks their summons
they will sit back and sip saki?

Not only they will summon more they will tear her apart smh

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Do you think while she attacks their summons
they will sit back and sip saki?

Not only they will summon more they will tear her apart smh

She won't attack the summons, they will attack her. She just can stay in her place and wait until they reach her. As I said, she needs 1 touch to immobilize them.

 

[Exaar]

As I know the summons don't have long ranged attacks, so they need to get close to Tsunade. She needs to TOUCH and not punch them.
And she has several speed feats, if you wish I can give manga scans too.

all well and good only having to touch them.

But touching attmeting to hit a Huge milti-headed dog on the back of the neck while being attack by other summoning and paths isn't going to happen with her current speed feats.
Also i do hope these feats don't include her Blocking Madara's katon attacks with i think you tried to claim puts her reflexes on the same level as A.

Tell me more how tsunade is evading say 3 summon and 3 paths while at the same time precisely positioning herself behind cerberus befor it can Split, other summons attack or one of the paths can attack.

 

[Articuno]

Honestly, this thread is biased. You're pairing the guy who has the ability to warp people away up with a woman who has the ability to restore chakra, and on top of that, you're giving them full intel while Pain has none...My God..

 

[Bogard]

Nope i havent
pains summons>tsunade summons

also even if i consider kakashi taking out deva path which is highly unlikely (cuz he is surrounded by other paths and they can buy more than enough time for chibaku tensei)

he will be exhausted like hell
that means he needs chakra
tsunade cant restore him cuz she is busy with the others
anyone out of the 5 can take out kakashi by that time

He warped a Bijuu like Hachibi 2times after warping himself, so no he won't be exhausted after warping only one Path, and Kakashi is far above every other Paths one on one. Now if they are in group maybe(and it's not even sure), but one on one, Kakashi would destroy them. It's for that reason that Nagato even felt the need to give Asura Path as a back up to Deva Path when he fought Kakashi and even thought that he had to kill him there because he was too dangerous.

 

[Exaar]

He warped a Bijuu like Hachibi 2times after warping himself, so no he won't be exhausted after warping only one Path, and Kakashi is far above every other Paths one on one. Now if they are in group maybe(and it's not even sure), but one on one, Kakashi would destroy them. It's for that reason that Nagato even felt the need to give Asura Path as a back up to Deva Path when he fought Kakashi and even thought that he had to kill him there because he was too dangerous.

@ Bold.

Come on dude, Kakashi is one of my favourites always has been, But he isn't "Far above" the paths in a 1v1.

Deva already had kakashi backed up against a wall befor asura path even arrived. In the 1v1 deva was never really under any real stress ot strain while fighting kakashi, it was only when Choji ad his farther arrived did Deva start having problems.
Plus kakashi was already of 50% chakra when the fatties did arrive, So he wouldn't of lasted much longer.

With back up kakashi can beat the paths in a 1v1 maybe, On his own? lol no.

 

[Bogard]

@ Bold.

Come on dude, Kakashi is one of my favourites always has been, But he isn't "Far above" the paths in a 1v1.

Deva already had kakashi backed up against a wall befor asura path even arrived. In the 1v1 deva was never really under any real stress ot strain while fighting kakashi, it was only when Choji ad his farther arrived did Deva start having problems.
Plus kakashi was already of 50% chakra when the fatties did arrive, So he wouldn't of lasted much longer.

With back up kakashi can beat the paths in a 1v1 maybe, On his own? lol no.

I said other paths, meaning besides Deva path, and the fact remain that he is indeed far above them one on one. Proof of it is that his clone almost one-shoted Asura path if not the rinnengan shared vision which need 2paths to be used. Since back then, he already had them(Deva and Asura) defeated one vs 2, because remember Asura was paralysed by the RKB so could do nothing when Kakashi was already prepared to finish them with Raikiri. On the other side, Deva had just use banshou tenin. so he couldn't use his abilities for 5seconds and still unaware of kakashis position who could have kill him there at any moment. Current Kakashi is above the Kakashi who fought them back then. With his kamui feats, he is easily able to defeat every paths one on one(Deva included). It's just how overpowered kamui became

 

[Exaar]

I said other paths, meaning besides Deva path, and the fact remain that he is indeed far above them one on one. Proof of it is that his clone almost one-shoted Asura path if not the rinnengan shared vision which need 2paths to be used. Since back them(Deva and Asura), he already had them defeated one vs 2, because remember Asura was paralysed by the RKB so could do nothing when Kakashi was already prepared to finish them with Raikiri. On the other side, Deva had just use banshou tenin. so he couldn't use his abilities for 5seconds and still unaware of kakashis position who could have kill him there at any moment. Current Kakashi is above the Kakashi who fought them back then. With his kamui feats, he is easily able to defeat every paths one on one(Deva included). It's just how overpowered kamui became

He also loses to animal path

Kakashi isn't really that much different from the Pain arc kakashi, All thats changed are his kamui feats, Chakra/Ninjutsu/Taijutsu/Speed/Intelligence are still the same as always.

He only really uses kamui as a last resort, hence why he never used it on deva.

One large shinra tensei, Full bodied shinra tensei would simply leave kakashi like this

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Also even after kakashi finally took down Asura path, Deva still ended up defeating Kakashi + Choji + his father + a shinobi back up squad.