Tsunade and Itachi vs Obito

Tsunade and Itachi vs Obito

  • Tsunade and Itachi

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KidGamer65

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If it would have been normal healing like it was before the Shinra Tensei event, no need to say that she pored all her Sozo Saisei into the villagers.

Tsunade releases the Yin Seal to use Sozo Saisei and this has been proven not only then, but also later.

We have it in the Pain Arc:

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And later, here:

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So, yes, she did use Sozo Saisei on everybody.

So Yin Seal Release = Sozo Saisei= Byakugou.

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The Anbu says she poured her chakra into Katsuyu, not her jutsu.

She was healing them before she released the seal.

After needing more chakra she released the seal and used the chakra inside to heal the villagers.

Sozo Saisei is not the same as Yin Release.
 

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The Anbu says she poured her chakra into Katsuyu, not her jutsu.

She was healing them before she released the seal.

After needing more chakra she released the seal and used the chakra inside to heal the villagers.

Sozo Saisei is not the same as Yin Release.

Is not the same but it's only done when releasing Yin Seal. For normal healing she doesn't use Yin Seal.

And of course she poured chakra to perform Sozo Saisei. What would you want her to use? Flowers instead of chakra?
Stop denying it when the facts are there, really. :sy:
 

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Is not the same but it's only done when releasing Yin Seal. For normal healing she doesn't use Yin Seal.

And of course she poured chakra to perform Sozo Saisei. What would you want her to use? Flowers instead of chakra?
Stop denying it when the facts are there, really. :sy:

She used the chakra inside to heal the villagers cause she needed more of it, not because she wanted to use Sozo Saisei.

Lol, I never said she performed Sozo Saisei, she used the chakra to heal the villagers. Where are you getting this "she poured Sozo Saisei" stuff from even though the manga says otherwise.

Stop reading the manga incorrectly.
 

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Where it says?
Where he used?
Why didn't he used them against Bee, Naruto, Kakashi and Guy?
I already posted a link that explains why he doesn't use Rinnengan techniques before. It's because just controlling Bijuus already takes a hefty amount of chakra like Kakashi mentioned. Obito doesn't have unlimited chakra you know? Another factor can be plot wise as well. Because he has also never used Mokuton techniques during their fight only until recently when he could. Why?
 

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She used the chakra inside to heal the villagers cause she needed more of it, not because she wanted to use Sozo Saisei.

Lol, I never said she performed Sozo Saisei, she used the chakra to heal the villagers. Where are you getting this "she poured Sozo Saisei" stuff from even though the manga says otherwise.

Stop reading the manga incorrectly.

No, you stop reading manga incorrectly.
It clearly states that she used her Sozo Saisei technique and poured all the chakra into Katsuyu. Chakra necessary for Sozo Saisei or else how the hell would she be doing the technique?

Normal healing is this:

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Releasing chakra from her hands.

Yin Seal (forehead mark still there)

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Normal healing is this:

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Releasing chakra from all her body which corresponds to her Keirakkukei.

And when she gets to the next level of healing, meaning via Sozo Saisei, in order to perform Sozo Saisei, she first needs to release the chakra from the seal. Yin Seal. When the forehead mark goes away, it means she used Sozo Saisei.

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Forehead mark gone.
Poured all her chakra into herself.

Pein arc.

Once again, normal healing.

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Continuing with normal healing.

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Forehead mark still there.

Before Pain used Shinra Tensei, forehead mark (Yin Seal) still there

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She saw that he still has something up in his sleeve, presumed that it's going to be highly dangerous, Tsunade decided to pour the chakra from the forehead seal, which by now I've shown you is used for Sozo Saisei, she poured all that chakra for performing the technique into Katsuyu.

Proof? Forehead mark gone.
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As showed, when she uses her forehead seal (Yin Seal) she uses Sozo Saisei.
That chakra in the forehead is stored for that purpose.

So yes, you are the one reading the manga incorrectly.
 

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No, you stop reading manga incorrectly.
It clearly states that she used her Sozo Saisei technique and poured all the chakra into Katsuyu. Chakra necessary for Sozo Saisei or else how the hell would she be doing the technique?

Normal healing is this:

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Releasing chakra from her hands.

Yin Seal (forehead mark still there)

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Normal healing is this:

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Releasing chakra from all her body which corresponds to her Keirakkukei.

And when she gets to the next level of healing, meaning via Sozo Saisei, in order to perform Sozo Saisei, she first needs to release the chakra from the seal. Yin Seal. When the forehead mark goes away, it means she used Sozo Saisei.

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Forehead mark gone.
Poured all her chakra into herself.

Pein arc.

Once again, normal healing.

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Continuing with normal healing.

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Forehead mark still there.

Before Pain used Shinra Tensei, forehead mark (Yin Seal) still there

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She saw that he still has something up in his sleeve, presumed that it's going to be highly dangerous, Tsunade decided to pour the chakra from the forehead seal, which by now I've shown you is used for Sozo Saisei, she poured all that chakra for performing the technique into Katsuyu.

Proof? Forehead mark gone.
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As showed, when she uses her forehead seal (Yin Seal) she uses Sozo Saisei.
That chakra in the forehead is stored for that purpose.

So yes, you are the one reading the manga incorrectly.

Lol, no.

This is you foolishly assuming she can only use the chakra in her Yin Seal for Sozo Saisei, even though it says she builds up chakra into the seal, it never said that it can only be used for Sozo Saisei.

She poured all of it into Katsuyu, she didn't use it to activate Sozo Saisei.

If you can't understand this then there is no point in talking to you anymore.
 

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lol right obito will simply trick them like he tricked the both of them (fu and torune) [ ][ ]
god help itachi if tsunade tries to punch obito in this situation^
her punch will hit itachi and R.I.P. itachi

itachi gets hit with the acid *trollface obito*

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torune never got to touch him, the bugs infected his arm when he touched torune to warp him and it was obito himself who took out his arm to prevent the bugs from spreading [ ]

just because obito is facing two opponents doesn't mean he will lose

He isn't tricking Itachi, not someone who's smarter than him and is skilled in predicting things like that..... Even if he gets one of them over into the other side, then that's perfect for the fight....

If it's tsunade on the normal side, and itachi in his dimension, He'll HAVE to use his kamui to escape her punches or katsuu's acid.. and when he does that, he can get totsuka sword by itachi..

Vice versa...
 

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Lol, no.

This is you foolishly assuming she can only use the chakra in her Yin Seal for Sozo Saisei, even though it says she builds up chakra into the seal, it never said that it can only be used for Sozo Saisei.

She poured all of it into Katsuyu, she didn't use it to activate Sozo Saisei.

If you can't understand this then there is no point in talking to you anymore.

Good, no debating with you anymore if you cannot understand the manga you're reading when the evidences are there. :|
 

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Good, no debating with you anymore if you cannot understand the manga you're reading when the evidences are there. :|

:sy: Says the one basing their entire argument off of a stupid assumption which isn't even fact.....
 

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:sy: Says the one basing their entire argument off of a stupid assumption which isn't even fact.....

What argument you brough besides denying that.
Stop acting childish.
It wasn't even bashing.
I could show you bashing but that wouldn't make my argument better.
When you can prove your arguments with manga facts, not NarutoWiki where everyone can write whatever they want, you can come and debate.
Until then, your arguments are invalid.
 

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What argument you brough besides denying that.
Stop acting childish.
It wasn't even bashing.
I could show you bashing but that wouldn't make my argument better.
When you can prove your arguments with manga facts, not NarutoWiki where everyone can write whatever they want, you can come and debate.
Until then, your arguments are invalid.

Lol, no one is bashing anyone.

The fact that you typed all this crap instead of addressing my statement from my post shows that your argument is invalid.

I'm done debating with you as this is off-topic, and you clearly don't know the difference between an assumption or a fact.

You don't need to reply cause I'm not going to read it or reply to it.
 

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Lol, no.

This is you foolishly assuming she can only use the chakra in her Yin Seal for Sozo Saisei, even though it says she builds up chakra into the seal, it never said that it can only be used for Sozo Saisei.

She poured all of it into Katsuyu, she didn't use it to activate Sozo Saisei.

If you can't understand this then there is no point in talking to you anymore.

The normal healing is slow- Tsunade needs to concentrate to heal someone
The Sozo Saize is very fast- it heals instantly. This is why she used that when Pein used the massive shinra tensei. She used the Sozo Saizei on every villager who was connected to her Slug.
Simple as hell :)

I hope is clear now :p
 

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Lol, no one is bashing anyone.

The fact that you typed all this crap instead of addressing my statement from my post shows that your argument is invalid.

I'm done debating with you as this is off-topic, and you clearly don't know the difference between an assumption or a fact.

You don't need to reply cause I'm not going to read it or reply to it.

You're done debating with me because you have no proof.
I have answered all your 'questions' while you didn't.
So yeah, the debate with you ends, the facts are there.
Over.
 

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The normal healing is slow- Tsunade needs to concentrate to heal someone
The Sozo Saize is very fast- it heals instantly. This is why she used that when Pein used the massive shinra tensei. She used the Sozo Saizei on every villager who was connected to her Slug.
Simple as hell :)

Why can"

Lol, she healed everyone? Thats why these guys are here complaining of their injuries right?


Nobody was healed instantly.
 

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Lol, she healed everyone? Thats why these guys are here complaining of their injuries right?


Nobody was healed instantly.

But they were alive... Even Tsunade's chakra has it's limit.
 

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But they were alive... Even Tsunade's chakra has it's limit.

Lol, you said they were healed instantly, but I showed that they weren't, which throws your whole theory on it being Sozo Saisei just because they were "instantly" healed out the window.

They lived because Katsuyu protected them from the blast not due to Sozo Saisei.
 

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Lol, you said they were healed instantly, but I showed that they weren't, which throws your whole theory on it being Sozo Saisei just because they were "instantly" healed out the window.

They lived because Katsuyu protected them from the blast not due to Sozo Saisei.

Instantly healed is not = with completely healed :)
 

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Instantly healed is not = with completely healed :)

Still doesn't prove that Sozo Saisei was used, if it was used during that duration, people wouldn't be talking about their injuries in that scan, as we have seen how quickly it healed Tsunade when she used it in Part 1.
 

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Still doesn't prove that Sozo Saisei was used, if it was used during that duration, people wouldn't be talking about their injuries in that scan, as we have seen how quickly it healed Tsunade when she used it in Part 1.

As I said before, Tsunade's chakra is not infinite. Maybe it healed only the most significant injures.
 
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