Tsunade and Itachi vs Obito

[Bogard]

Dear KIDGAMER, obito cant use shinra tensei and banshou tein, he is not nagato stop talk nonsense....

Proof?

 

[Itachi8179]

Proof?

Show to me atleast one manga page where hes doing that....

 

[Bogard]

Show to me atleast one manga page where hes doing that....

The reason why he doesn't use it right now is already given by Kakashi. It takes already a lot of chakra just to control Tailed Beasts:

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[Itachi8179]

The reason why he doesn't use it right now is already given by Kakashi. It takes already a lot of chakra just to control Tailed Beasts:

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When we see that than you can state that, because words here means nothing alot of times we saw that....

 

[Tazzilla88]

*yawn* common statement posted by people when they dont have counter (______ solos So6P)
drag the sage's name when the thread has nothing to do with him ( and despite the manga repeatedly putting him on a god tier) in an attempt to downplay the OPness of a particular technique

No it's a statement used to suggest your overrating the technique and implying that it's versatility allows it to be used in against the most powerful person. But to directly answer you. No. He seems to use Kamui as a means of defense/ isolating an enemy. Which doesn't work here

 

[lol99]

No it's a statement used to suggest your overrating the technique and implying that it's versatility allows it to be used in against the most powerful person. But to directly answer you. No. He seems to use Kamui as a means of defense/ isolating an enemy. Which doesn't work here

the only ones getting overrated here are itachi and tsunade
and dont try to bring up the sage again

 

[Owarij]

You're all underestimating Itachi and Tsunade...

Fu and torune were able to figure out that once obito materializes to send someone into the next realm , you can hit him etc etc...

tsunade has full info on obito as well as his 5min limit..... If she brings up katsuyuu, and makes a shadow clone , and itachi makes 2 shadow clones, they can engage obito in combat to the point where if he tries to touch one of them, he'll either get his by katsuyu's acid, 1hit by tsunade's punch ,etc etc.... just like how torune got to touch him and take his hand off..

Ofc the fight isnt that simple since obito has rinnegan now

 

[Chatte]

The manga clearly states Sozo Saisei was released do you know what the term "release" in Naruto means? Stop spouting the BS. Release means to cancel, to end, to stop.

Sozo Saisei was said to be used on Tsunade's body not others, another manga fact.

What you're saying makes ZERO sense since they said she released it, canceled it.

You have NO proof that she can heal others cells.

And don't you mean that you're out because you can't prove me wrong in any way shape or form?

Lol, concession accepted.

Her release means she activates the technique.
Means that blaze release cancels the flames?
See the flaw?
And for the moment I have some work to do, but I will get back with a full explanation, don't worry.

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What releasing Sozo Saisei means.

 

[OnPoint]

So basically the reason we don't take the word of characters when they talk about themselves is that they lie.
By Tsunade's own admission she cannot be killed while using Sozo Saise.
So let's talk about what has actually been done.

So what your saying is that even though soul removal requires direct contact, and Tsunade could make a grab for Obito's hand which forces him to either release her or lose a hand, she will somehow not be able to force him to make a move? Ok.

Right, so Tsunade is the only one who spoke about her potential with Byakugō activated, in a time when the Kage had their backs against the wall. Whilst Madara, Kakashi, Gai, Kabuto and Obito have all, in someway, indicated that the latter can use or would be dangerous with the Rinnegan. So we'll call five shinobi liars because one seemingly overestimated her abilities. Seems legit.

This is how fast Ningendō can rip souls [

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[KidGamer65]

Dear KIDGAMER, obito cant use shinra tensei and banshou tein, he is not nagato stop talk nonsense....

Rinnegan gives the power of the 6 paths to anyone who has it, manga fact.
If you don't like it oh well.

 

[KidGamer65]

Her release means she activates the technique.
Means that blaze release cancels the flames?
See the flaw?
And for the moment I have some work to do, but I will get back with a full explanation, don't worry.

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What releasing Sozo Saisei means.

That is her releasing the seal so the jutsu would activate, not her Releasing the jutsu like the anbu said.

Shizune said that she was about to release the seal, Anbu said she released her jutsu, and proceeded to heal the villagers with her chakra.

And I had to at your Blaze Release comparison, Release right after a jutsu name depicts its element. Fire Release, completely different from what I'm talking about.

 

[Itachi8179]

Rinnegan gives the power of the 6 paths to anyone who has it, manga fact.
If you don't like it oh well.

He never showed that so theories cant be using like a fact.
Kamui and shinra would be perfect combination but....

 

[KidGamer65]

He never showed that so theories cant be using like a fact.
Kamui and shinra would be perfect combination but....

It is a fact, it has been made clear MANY times that he can use all of them....whether you want to believe he can or not is up to you but manga says otherwise.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

It is a fact, it has been made clear MANY times that he can use all of them....whether you want to believe he can or not is up to you but manga says otherwise.

Where it says?
Where he used?
Why didn't he used them against Bee, Naruto, Kakashi and Guy?

 

[Chatte]

That is her releasing the seal so the jutsu would activate, not her Releasing the jutsu like the anbu said.

Shizune said that she was about to release the seal, Anbu said she released her jutsu, and proceeded to heal the villagers with her chakra.

And I had to at your Blaze Release comparison, Release right after a jutsu name depicts its element. Fire Release, completely different from what I'm talking about.

No, it's the same thing.
Release means cancelling only when it comes to genjutsu.
Sozo Saisei is connected with her release of the jutsu.
See that the normal healing takes place without the releasing of the Seal and afterwards, she releases Sozo Saisei into everyone.
Once again, I feel we're not reading the same manga, really. :sy:

If normal healing can be done via chakra transmission, every other jutsu can be done.

You just decide for what jutsu you use you chakra.

Simple logic.

LE: and since you quoted me Narutowiki...

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What Yin Seal means and what she did with it.

She used this stored chakra to perform the Creation Rebirth (SozoSaisei) technique on herself(part 1) and healed a vast amount of people through Katsuyu(part2). She is also able to use the Strength of a Hundred Technique after releasing the seal.

 

[lol99]

You're all underestimating Itachi and Tsunade...

Fu and torune were able to figure out that once obito materializes to send someone into the next realm , you can hit him etc etc...

lol right obito will simply trick them like he tricked the both of them (fu and torune) [

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god help itachi if tsunade tries to punch obito in this situation^
her punch will hit itachi and R.I.P. itachi

tsunade has full info on obito as well as his 5min limit..... If she brings up katsuyuu, and makes a shadow clone , and itachi makes 2 shadow clones, they can engage obito in combat to the point where if he tries to touch one of them, he'll either get his by katsuyu's acid, 1hit by tsunade's punch ,etc etc....

itachi gets hit with the acid *trollface obito*

just like how torune got to touch him and take his hand off..

Ofc the fight isnt that simple since obito has rinnegan now

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torune never got to touch him, the bugs infected his arm when he touched torune to warp him and it was obito himself who took out his arm to prevent the bugs from spreading [

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just because obito is facing two opponents doesn't mean he will lose

 

[KidGamer65]

No, it's the same thing.
Release means cancelling only when it comes to genjutsu.
Sozo Saisei is connected with her release of the jutsu.
See that the normal healing takes place without the releasing of the Seal and afterwards, she releases Sozo Saisei into everyone.
Once again, I feel we're not reading the same manga, really. :sy:

If normal healing can be done via chakra transmission, every other jutsu can be done.

You just decide for what jutsu you use you chakra.

Simple logic.

Really? No it isn't.

Release means cancel, and not only when it comes to genjutsu. Unless it says XXX Release then it is not the same as what you are implying it to be.

She didn't release her jutsu into everyone, she released the seal containing the built up chakra so she could continue the healing process after she ran out of normal chakra, thats why she turned old.

@bold: We can't be reading the same manga if you think that she can heal everyone via Sozo Saisei regeneration.

That wikia quote doesn't help your argument in any way as it says exactly what happened, she used the chakra built up in her Yin Seal to heal the villagers after she ran out of her own chakra.

 

[enuzuki]

It's quiet the entertaining back and forth, between Kidgamer and Chatte. I can't remember the last time two people arguing was so interesting.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Really? No it isn't.

Release means cancel, and not only when it comes to genjutsu. Unless it says XXX Release then it is not the same as what you are implying it to be.

She didn't release her jutsu into everyone, she released the seal containing the built up chakra so she could continue the healing process after she ran out of normal chakra, thats why she turned old.

@bold: We can't be reading the same manga if you think that she can heal everyone via Sozo Saisei regeneration.

That wikia quote doesn't help your argument in any way as it says exactly what happened, she used the chakra built up in her Yin Seal to heal the villagers after she ran out of her own chakra.

No, you are wrong. She released her seal- this means she poured her YIN chakra to Katsuyu, which automatically healed the civilians- this is Sozo Saize. This technique heals instantly. With a simple healing jutsu she cant heal 3463 people in less then a second.

 

[Chatte]

Really? No it isn't.

Release means cancel, and not only when it comes to genjutsu. Unless it says XXX Release then it is not the same as what you are implying it to be.

She didn't release her jutsu into everyone, she released the seal containing the built up chakra so she could continue the healing process after she ran out of normal chakra, thats why she turned old.

@bold: We can't be reading the same manga if you think that she can heal everyone via Sozo Saisei regeneration.

If it would have been normal healing like it was before the Shinra Tensei event, no need to say that she pored all her Sozo Saisei into the villagers.

Tsunade releases the Yin Seal to use Sozo Saisei and this has been proven not only then, but also later.

We have it in the Pain Arc:

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And later, here:

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So, yes, she did use Sozo Saisei on everybody.

So Yin Seal Release = Sozo Saisei= Byakugou.

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