[Predictions] Tsunade and Dan are the minato's mother and father?

rahul

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Nov 10, 2008
Messages
2,682
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Hi guys i found a interesting story of a excellent predictor who says minato was the son of tsunade with all predictions lets enjoy this


It is pretty apparent from the hints in the manga that Tsunade and Dan are Minato's mother/father. The reason i think this is true is because there are just so many hints shown in the manga and Data-book thats its almost undeniable. So i'll try and keep this short and post them in a list
1-Tsunade and Minato have the same exact blood type(B).

2-Dan and Minato graduated the Academy at the Same time(When they were 10) *not literally the SAME year

3-Tsunade and Minato Share the Same Hair Color(Blond)

4-Minato and Dan are around the same height and weight as each other(they are only different by a 3-4 in both categories)

5-Naruto and Nawaki(tsunade's brother) look nearly identical. Shows possibly a family resemblance

6-Its interesting that naruto always calls Tsunade Grandma Tsunade, which would be very ironic on kishi's part if it was true

Now that the basic comparisons are over here's the real big evidance

5-Madara suggest that the Hokage line has been kept in the Senju clan for years. When he talks about this their is a picture of the hokage mountain and it shows the fourth hokage's head on it. This implies that the Hokage position was still held by the Senju even during the fourth Hokage's time, which inturn implies that the fourth hokage is a Senju.

Where else would he get the blood from the Senju clan then Tsunade.

6-Tsunade passes down the hokage necklace to naruto which was set to stay in Tsunade's family and passed down in their family since the first hokage. Since there is a big deal made out of the necklace i think this implies that Naruto might be in Tsunade's family.

7-Yamato remarks about naruto's Chakra being special because he is able to hold off the power of the 4-tails w/o dieing. This might be because naruto is related to the Senju clan and thus his chakra has the same qualities as Shodai which helps to protect him from the kyuubi chakra

8-There is a great amount of symbolism between Shodai-Naruto and Sasuke-Madara. They stood on that statues of each other at the valley of the end(Naruto on Shodai's and Sasuke on Madara's). Many people thought this implied that Shodai is like naruto and sasuke is like Madara. But Sasuke is actually and Uchiha so i don't see why this wouldn't also imply that naruto is a Senju.

9-And i think this is the biggest telling piece of information eventhough some people might read the dialog differently then i did. Now remember the chapter where Jiriaya tells Tsunade that he is going to Ame to look for AL and they have Sake. Well when their discussion turns to minato alot of things bother me about the way Jiriaya talks to Tsunade.

First look at Tsunade's face when she says Minato-Namikaze on page 10 chapter 367 she seems very sad about saying his name. Now this can be explained away by her just having been friends with him or something and being sad thinking about how he died, but it creates a very wierd mood for what happens next. First Jiriaya goes on to brag about Minato and what he was like and his amazing Genius.

Which let me say its weird that Jiriaya even brought up Minato at this point in the conversation because previously they were talking about how Tsunade has lost so many people in the past and about how she rejected Jiriaya's advances. Then Jiriaya seems to imply that he thought of Minato as a son and brags about him to which he says that if Minato had been his son he would have bragged about him constantly.

But what makes this suspect to me is he says i never had any kids of my own while looking at Tsunade and then says if Minato had been my kid...etc.. Doesn't this sound like what some one would say to a mother who lost their child...just replace minato with your son and doesn't the whole dialog seem right.

For example i will redo the dialog this way

"Tsunade you son had talent only seen once in a decade at best. He was a genius...No one like him has been born in awhile." "He was such a nice kid yet his guts and desire to succeed were the fiercest i have ever seen." "and in the blink of an eye he was our fourth hokage." "I never had kids so i don't know what its like, but if he had been my son i would have bragged about him all the time."

Now i want you to think about what kind of character Jiriaya is. He's the guy who failed all his life at love and he failed to Dan. Now think about it if Jiriaya had succeeded with Tsunade he would have been Minato's father instead of Dan. Its basically like Jiriaya is saying he always thought of Minato as his son because he could have very well been his father if it wasn't for a simple twist of fate. Basically that whole converstation made me think that Jiriaya was talking about Minato as if he was Tsunade's son and if you read the flow of that conversation from its start to finish with the idea that Minato is Tsunade's son alot of Jiriaya's jokes and ways that he talks makes alot of sense.

So whats my theory on how Minato is Tsunade's son. I think that Tsunade got pregnant by Dan a little bit before he went off on the mission that killed him. She also was doing missions because she didn't know that she herself was pregnant yet. After Dan Died she found that she was pregnant with his child which caused her to go even more into the depression that led her to leave the village. I think after Dan died she stayed in the village long enough to give birth to Minato and then she put him up for adoption and left the village.

Years later Jiriaya trained Minato because he loved Tsunade so much. Basically Jiriaya felt like Minato could have been his kid and he wanted to be a father to Tsunade's kid becuase of his love for her. So he trained Minato and they did gain a father son bond which later resulted in Jiriaya ironically becoming naruto's God Father. Tsunade probably never told Minato that he was her kid, but all the elders of Konoha knew because they knew she put him up for adoption as a baby, which made Minato a member of the Senju clan which helped increase his chances of becoming hokage.

The genius of kishimoto can truly be seen if this theory is true. For many reasons:

1-It will be important in naruto becoming a full pledge ninja because he might develop some of Shodai's power to allow him to control the demon fox or it might help explain why he is able to finally control the demon fox with his own chakra. It would also build up the tension between Sasuke and Naruto if naruto was a true Senju clan member.
2-It fit perfectly with the irony of Jiriaya's story/character. Jiriaya failed in love eventhough and Dan won out. Jiriaya could have been Minato's father, but he ended up becoming Minato's Sensei and Foster father figure anyway. Eventhough he failed in love with Tsunade he was still able to become part of Minato's family and even became naruto's God father.
3-It would fit perfectly with Tsunade's dynamic with naruto and her troubled past storyline. It would also be amazing if naruto did find out Tsunade was his grandmother right before she died. Also Tsunade would then be in a position to be the one to reveal naruto's entire lineage to him. It would also make sense why she was so willing to bet the necklace with naruto because he is part of the Senju clan as well.
 
Last edited:

Emperor

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Nov 15, 2008
Messages
13,076
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
nice theory, but it would mean a total shocking revelation ...
it somehow doesnt sem plausible though.... but it would be cool if it was true.
 
Joined
Sep 5, 2008
Messages
128
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Hey Rahul ! I dunno where u found this but it makes perfect sense ! I am absolutely convinced that this is true .

Very Very intersting dude. Kudos for finding it . :)

We are all waiting for Naruto to realise his parentage.Minato and Kushina. I think when kishi reveals them openly to Naruto, he will also reveal this connection os Tsunade's and Minato. And most likely it will be just before Tsunade's death..

Cheers !
 

Kawagiri

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
14,880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
1-5) are just silly speculations tbh... if u looked like me... had same hair colour and blood type... weighed the same as me and was as smart as me in school... would that make us brothers?... not really...

6) the grandma tsunade is for 2 reasons... a) it refers to her age as a joke... b) he sees her like family cos of her kindness towards him e.t.c.

your 2nd number 5 :p .... the hokage necklace was a bet to her... the point was she was a big gambler... and she was willing to lose her most prized possession to naruto

your 2nd number 6 *sigh*... what about hiruzen sarutobi? i'm pretty sure he was no relation to 1st or 2nd hokage...


7) i can't totally remember him mentioning the chakra... but i think he's also talking about the fox's chakra's healing capabilities keeping him alive... plus the fox wouldn't just kill him would it? cos in turn it would die itself.


8)there is lots of symbolism? then why give one example?...
it could be for a number of reasons such as naruto is wanting to be hokage... but the best possible one is...

madara and shodaime were once friends but then thay had to fight at that spot... the same has happened with sasuke and naruto...

9) in that chapter it's still speculation... jiraiya is basically saying that he'd be proud to have minato as a son... there isn't that much to say that it's being aimed at him being tsunade's son... although this whole theory you have put will now make people look for these links... and find them where there aren't any links...

--------------------------

let's say tsunade was minato's mother... when he died... why did tsunade not look after naruto? (gambling debt? i think konoha would pay off those for the wellbeing of their hero's son)
why would tsunade not tell naruto he is really her grandson?... it would bring both of them happiness...


the theory may be true... but it's still mainly speculation ... and u have to think... writers put in things as a kind of joke aswell to make people start drawing conclusions from meaningless things
 

Xero

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Apr 26, 2008
Messages
3,391
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I'm convinced. Always thought the Valley of the End thing represented Uchiha's persistant challenging of Konoha leadership... in Naruto's case furure leadership.
 

rahul

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Nov 10, 2008
Messages
2,682
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
1-5) are just silly speculations tbh... if u looked like me... had same hair colour and blood type... weighed the same as me and was as smart as me in school... would that make us brothers?... not really...

6) the grandma tsunade is for 2 reasons... a) it refers to her age as a joke... b) he sees her like family cos of her kindness towards him e.t.c.

your 2nd number 5 :p .... the hokage necklace was a bet to her... the point was she was a big gambler... and she was willing to lose her most prized possession to naruto

your 2nd number 6 *sigh*... what about hiruzen sarutobi? i'm pretty sure he was no relation to 1st or 2nd hokage...


7) i can't totally remember him mentioning the chakra... but i think he's also talking about the fox's chakra's healing capabilities keeping him alive... plus the fox wouldn't just kill him would it? cos in turn it would die itself.


8)there is lots of symbolism? then why give one example?...
it could be for a number of reasons such as naruto is wanting to be hokage... but the best possible one is...

madara and shodaime were once friends but then thay had to fight at that spot... the same has happened with sasuke and naruto...

9) in that chapter it's still speculation... jiraiya is basically saying that he'd be proud to have minato as a son... there isn't that much to say that it's being aimed at him being tsunade's son... although this whole theory you have put will now make people look for these links... and find them where there aren't any links...

--------------------------

let's say tsunade was minato's mother... when he died... why did tsunade not look after naruto? (gambling debt? i think konoha would pay off those for the wellbeing of their hero's son)
why would tsunade not tell naruto he is really her grandson?... it would bring both of them happiness...


the theory may be true... but it's still mainly speculation ... and u have to think... writers put in things as a kind of joke aswell to make people start drawing conclusions from meaningless things
its just a prediction with all hints in manga and
coming to tsunade not telling him that she may be her grandmother(reason she want to keep this as secret as minato kept it)if she tell him that he is the grandson of her then villagers will know that naruto is the son of minato(as most of the villagers may be knowing that tsunade may be minato's mother according to prediction) it may be one thought.may be kishi will be thinking of relating senju clan with naruto if so happens then there will be a meaning
 
Last edited:

Kawagiri

Active member
Legendary
Joined
Jul 14, 2008
Messages
14,880
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
its just a prediction with all hints in manga and
coming to tsunade not telling him that she may be her grandmother(reason she want to keep this as secret as minato kept it)if she tell her if she is the minatos mother then all villagers will know that naruto is the son of minato it may be one thought.may be kishi will be thinking of relating senju clan with naruto if so happens then there will be a meaning
that still doesn't answer really... what difference does it make if the villagers know he's minato's son... he'd get more respect...
and you still wouldn't hide the fact that you are related from your grandchild... it'd give him some of the family he's never had... (also i mentioned if she was family i think she'd have looked after him rather than him be an orphan)
 

rahul

Active member
Veteran
Joined
Nov 10, 2008
Messages
2,682
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
that still doesn't answer really... what difference does it make if the villagers know he's minato's son... he'd get more respect...
and you still wouldn't hide the fact that you are related from your grandchild... it'd give him some of the family he's never had... (also i mentioned if she was family i think she'd have looked after him rather than him be an orphan)
someone said that minato is having lot of enemies thats why he hide it as secret same she is also doing i think so(one thing tell me why tsunade should feel about naruto so much when kabuto hurt him b/c he just resembles her brother and he is having same ambition like her brother i dont think so there must be some reasoning)
one more thing naruto things that he is orphan if he knows that tsunade is her grandmother then he definetly ask about his father and mother and she should answer it may be one more speculation
 

motherfury

Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2008
Messages
62
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
he got it from there and it's post 151


Law... perhaps she thought it best not to tell him since it would bring up the identity of his father.
 

YondaimeHokage

Active member
Regular
Joined
May 11, 2008
Messages
1,447
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
this theory doesnt mean much to me couse there hasnt been much proof agianst it and for it i mean the whole naruto calling tsunade grandma but on the counter side tsunade is seen on an episode talking pills (in some flashback) mabye that was birth controll (ha)

cuz if i where to sopport this thoery i whould have to sopport other ones like ......naruto is accouly a girl but no one knows?........sasuke i accouly the father of konahamaru.......

i have no idea what else but hope someone understands what im saying
 

Chakra

Active member
Regular
Joined
Nov 7, 2008
Messages
546
Kin
4💸
Kumi
3💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I agree with u that Naruto is senju. this goes with my theory of kishi's hokage selection. in it I state that the 7th hokage (7th chakra) has to do with the number 1,000. the only thing in the narutoverse that has to do with 1,000 is senju since senju means 1,000 hands. refer to my thread.
 

Skye Kaguya

Active member
Elite
Joined
Oct 31, 2008
Messages
8,071
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
Awards
it would also make ALOT of sense as to why Jiraiya Brought Naruto along with him when he went to get Tsunade

Kishi Really needs to develop this stuff more...

But overall Awesome stuff there...

i never really thought of that before but it really DOES make perfect sense...
 

motherfury

Member
Joined
Sep 12, 2008
Messages
62
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
I agree with u that Naruto is senju. this goes with my theory of kishi's hokage selection. in it I state that the 7th hokage (7th chakra) has to do with the number 1,000. the only thing in the narutoverse that has to do with 1,000 is senju since senju means 1,000 hands. refer to my thread.


Damn your right!! It ties so deeply with mine. That means that Tsunade has to die or perhaps unable to perform as Hokage and so that means that Naruto can't be the 6th and next in line would be Kakashi if he lives.

That's awesome. See my theory thread as well. Perhaps we can help each other!
 
Top