Tsunade>3 tomoe itachi correct?

[Prince Charles]

Sure. Never in my replies I said that Tsunade wins this, Itachi has nothing to do to her like the majority here (though have to admit that some actually put up a good debate) has done.

All I did was show her counter-attacks regarding the matters with solid facts not just fanboyism stuff.

I wouldn't have written such long posts in the first place explaining how things work, I would've just gone stating the above fanboyism state.

Agreed u presented pretty fken good replies and deserve a rep.

 

[Chatte]

if this thread reaches 21 pages i swear this guy deserves a trophy/award

Well, we had some exchange of replies on another thread. Me and Tazilla, though I have to admit that Tazilla is way better than me when it comes to stuff like this, so he was the one who probably made the member to do this thread.

I have to agree it was an interesting match-up, nonetheless!

Agreed u presented pretty fken good replies and deserve a rep.

Thank you!

 

[blackbird31468]

I have showed you that sometimes it doesn't need to do that.
About what Raikage told her I already explained what that meant you just seem to ignore that.

Plus the fact that what Tsunade did there was on purpose to open an diversion attack for the other kages.

Well if the only way Tsunade can become a sloppy fighter is by taking a hit, and the only way Tsunade can hit her opponents is by taking a hit first. Then Tsunade is indirectly fighting sloppy, since in order for her to hit her opponents she has to take a hit, thus causing her fighting style to become sloppy after each blow.

And if Tsunade did this on purpose as a "diversion", then why did the raikage get caught in a genjutsu by Madara when he was paying attention to Tsunade?

 

[zesto]

dude end of debate it depends on the situation their in and the circumstances i'm finding a different thread this has drag on too long, lets just settle this by saying their equal cause thats what i voted for.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Well if the only way Tsunade can become a sloppy fighter is by taking a hit, and the only way Tsunade can hit her opponents is by taking a hit first. Then Tsunade is indirectly fighting sloppy, since in order for her to hit her opponents she has to take a hit, thus causing her fighting style to become sloppy after each blow.

And if Tsunade did this on purpose as a "diversion", then why did the raikage get caught in a genjutsu by Madara when he was paying attention to Tsunade?

The if x then y is the logical fallacy known as post hoc ergo propter hoc. Tsunade took a hit then hit a clone therefore Tsunade must first take damage to deal damage is what you said.
That makes no sense.
While it is true that Tsunade has decided to tank attacks for the sake of counter attacking or protecting others, that does not mean she has to make that decision to be effective.

 

[jay2512]

ah the thread continues!

question about koto amatsukami. couldnt it be used?

itachi embedded the command "protect konoha" into the eye then implanted it into the bird. itachi believed sasuke would take his eyes to gain EMS so that the plan for the rigged bird would work in case he betrayed his trust. but when was that plan formulated to rig the eye?? lets see..

shisui gave itachi his eye so it wouldnt be in the wrong hands. itachi then went to the elders and eventually talked to danzo alone who told him the situation. then later talked to madara. itachi would have no reason yet to put the command "protect konoha" in the eye until after the massacre and the fate he chose for sasuke since its original purpose was for him.

at some point itachi did have KA without a set command i believe.

so is 3 tomoe itachi using KA in this fight invalid? i dont know why not

technically young itachi who held shisuis eye before the "protect konoha" command was set, is capable of beating tsunade becasue i dont see tsunade having any answer to KA.

 

[Tazzilla88]

ah the thread continues!

question about koto amatsukami. couldnt it be used?

itachi embedded the command "protect konoha" into the eye then implanted it into the bird. itachi believed sasuke would take his eyes to gain EMS so that the plan for the rigged bird would work in case he betrayed his trust. but when was that plan formulated to rig the eye?? lets see..

shisui gave itachi his eye so it wouldnt be in the wrong hands. itachi then went to the elders and eventually talked to danzo alone who told him the situation. then later talked to madara. itachi would have no reason yet to put the command "protect konoha" in the eye until after the massacre and the fate he chose for sasuke since its original purpose was for him.

at some point itachi did have KA without a set command i believe.

so is 3 tomoe itachi using KA in this fight invalid? i dont know why not

technically young itachi who held shisuis eye before the "protect konoha" command was set, is capable of beating tsunade becasue i dont see tsunade having any answer to KA.

Considering Itachi knows Sasuke is a threat to Konoha and considering he knew upon releasing edo-tensei he'd be unable to stop Sasuke, and considering he met with Sasuke before they encountered Kabuto and considering he kabuto defeated and had every opportunity to kill Sasuke in order to protect Konoha while Kabuto was stuck in Izanami and chose not to, it only stands to reason that if you are under the control of Izanami and you recognize this then you have the option of disobeying the order or finding an alternative way to obey the order.

And there is still the question of how does one use an eye that is not implanted in anything thus is incapable of functioning?

 

[Chatte]

Considering Itachi knows Sasuke is a threat to Konoha and considering he knew upon releasing edo-tensei he'd be unable to stop Sasuke, and considering he met with Sasuke before they encountered Kabuto and considering he kabuto defeated and had every opportunity to kill Sasuke in order to protect Konoha while Kabuto was stuck in Izanami and chose not to, it only stands to reason that if you are under the control of Izanami and you recognize this then you have the option of disobeying the order or finding an alternative way to obey the order.

And there is still the question of how does one use an eye that is not implanted in anything thus is incapable of functioning?

And isn't Kotoamasukyomi available once at 10 years?

 

[jay2512]

And isn't Kotoamasukyomi available once at 10 years?

yeah you can only use it once every 10 years unless dna form senju but i was just trying to put it into play without any specific time that it was used.

@tazzilla88
you got me on that last part

 

[Sexy Steel]

1. How would Itachi who's around 1.75 meter will be able to look into the eyes of a 10 meters (so to say) slug who has the eyes located rather to the upper sky than to the ground?

2. You keep putting words in my mouth. I said she can break out not that she's immune. Leaves her wide open from what? After the flesh comes the bone who is not that really easy to cut. The first slight of pain that she feels, she's out of genjutsu and can counter-attack. Even if not in the next instance of offensiveness while meantime she regenerates. This has been shown in the battle of the 3 Sannins. Again, failed argument.

3. Direct contact with the eyes. Why does it mean that Katsuyu has to do the same? If you put Tsunade in genjutsu, Katsuyu can disconnect her, if you put Katsuyu in genjutsu, Tsunade can disconnect her. See what I mean? Manda was by himself, Kyuubi at that time, as well.

4. Yes, Tsunade survived.




Uhm, excuse me, you call sloppy the best praised to be combatant style user in Narutovese who has been able to keep Byakugou an entire day plus around a part of the night WHILE healing and replenishing chakra of the other kages? The niece of Hashirama SENJU and Mito UZUMAKI?

1. by ur logic Katsuya will look at the sky all day and not once look at the enemy
It has been proven in the manga that summons as big as Katsuya can be put into genjutsu and control them

2. Lol so tsunade is like the 3rd raikage whose skins can't be peirced again referring to madara. Genjutsu will work on her she will be attacked madara's sword pierced her her healing helped her tank it, her head will be cut off if worse come to worse. Lol orochimaru with skins nearly impenetrable got cut.

3. If summon is put under genjutsu they are controlled Katsuya can be put under genjutsu when summoned as a whole.

 

[Chatte]

1. by ur logic Katsuya will look at the sky all day and not once look at the enemy
It has been proven in the manga that summons as big as Katsuya can be put into genjutsu and control them

2. Lol so tsunade is like the 3rd raikage whose skins can't be peirced again referring to madara. Genjutsu will work on her she will be attacked madara's sword pierced her her healing helped her tank it, her head will be cut off if worse come to worse. Lol orochimaru with skins nearly impenetrable got cut.

3. If summon is put under genjutsu they are controlled Katsuya can be put under genjutsu when summoned as a whole.

No. By my logic I stated how her eyes are positioned not necessarily she has to look at the sky nor to Itachi's eyes. Her concern is Tsunade.

Once again, I've told you why they got trapped in genjutsu.

I already told replied about the beheading stuff previously. I am not going to repeat myself. You're giving proof of not reading properly the responses.

If Katsuyu is put under genjutsu means that Tsunade can get her out.

 

[Sexy Steel]

No. By my logic I stated how her eyes are positioned not necessarily she has to look at the sky nor to Itachi's eyes. Her concern is Tsunade.

Once again, I've told you why they got trapped in genjutsu.

I already told replied about the beheading stuff previously. I am not going to repeat myself. You're giving proof of not reading properly the responses.

If Katsuyu is put under genjutsu means that Tsunade can get her out.

1. Yeah she will not look at the enemy ?
That a flawed logic even when she was summoned against orochimaru and pain she looked at the enemy lol bone is not easy to cut yet orochimaru's bone got cut

2. If the summon is genjutsu'd they are controlled by the caster Katsuya would be fighting for itachi

 

[Lankeysob]

Tsunade can win high difficulty, so many Itachi fanboys on here.

 

[Chatte]

1. Yeah she will not look at the enemy ?
That a flawed logic even when she was summoned against orochimaru and pain she looked at the enemy lol bone is not easy to cut yet orochimaru's bone got cut

2. If the summon is genjutsu'd they are controlled by the caster Katsuya would be fighting for itachi

Why would she look at the enemy when her priority is to surround Tsunade? Even if Itachi decides to attack her, Katsuyu has been shown to tank any damage taken by now.

Ok, taking in consideration your hypothesis what stops Tsunade to unsummon her? Since you ingnore the fact that Tsunade could take her out of genjutsu.

 

[zesto]

1. Yeah she will not look at the enemy ?
That a flawed logic even when she was summoned against orochimaru and pain she looked at the enemy lol bone is not easy to cut yet orochimaru's bone got cut

2. If the summon is genjutsu'd they are controlled by the caster Katsuya would be fighting for itachi

this is so funny LOL, are you trying to post as many posts as possible so you can create another thread it seems that way to me because most of your responses are flaws

 

[zesto]

Tsunade can win high difficulty, so many Itachi fanboys on here.

i would totally agree with you if i wasn't a fan boy but your half right yes she can

 

[shloabsky]

Itachi fanboys says Itachi wins this.

Itachi haters says Tsunade wins.

Everione who is not stupid says that Tsunade wins.

yay im not stupid xd

 

[apple pie of doom]

Itachi would demolish her.
Tsunade is just too slow, and just one genjutsu and its over.
If she summons her snail, he can just use genjutsu on her too.
Its too easy, he does'nt need to kill her physically, his attacks are attacks on the mind.
I'd like to see her heal that while trapped in genjutsu.

 

[KilltheTrolls]

tsunade a fodder

btw actually does kishi even give a fk about the girl characters? explains why theyre so weak

oh and to answer the question.. itachi wins

Konan disagrees, being the only person to harm Tobi enough to not only damage him, but practically kill him if it weren't for Izanagi.

 

[zesto]

i know a way to solve it all let kishimoto resurrect itachi some how again and make him fight with lady tsunade and then we can all see who is the better shinobi right everyone?lol!!!!!!!!!!