[Theory] Trunks powers are not asspull

[Meowazziel]

I read about people saying that Trunks his powers are asspull.

However they really arent an asspull.

For starters we dont know exactly what his new form is.
It might be the cannon version of the Legendary SSJ
and we dont know the potential of this form as cannon version.
Not its potential abilities, not its potential growth etc.

The spiritbombesque sword also does not have to be an asspull.
We dont know the potential abilities conscious and subconscious of the form.

BUT but you may say, only planet earth gave energy to Trunks,
whereas Goku used energy from multiple planets vs Buu. So how is planet earth enough for slicing Zamasu?

Goku wasnt in Trunks his type of SSJform vs Buu.
Trunks his SSJform might not add the energy cumulatively.
Trunks also received energy from Goku and Vegeta.
A lot more energy was needed against Buu as Buu his regeneration abilities
were higher than fusion Zamasu, who got sliced in half. Slicing Buu in half wouldnt have cut it (pun ).
It might not only be about energy but also about the will of the people.
Those in trunks his timeline were a lot more personally involved.

Thus Trunks his power and abilities dont have to be an asspull.

 

[Оdin]

Asspull, from deep within his colon.

 

[Meowazziel]

Asspull, from deep within his colon.

I have just proven that it doesnt have to be an asspull.

You may not like what they did with Trunks,
howver it does not have to be an asspull.

 

[Reboryushon]

As much as I like Super everything in it is a freaking asspull.

 

[Meowazziel]

As much as I like Super everything in it is a freaking asspull.

Nice arguments...

Saying its an asspull doesnt have to make it so.

At least try to explain why it is an asspull.

I showed that it doesnt have to be one.

 

[Reboryushon]

Nice arguments...

Saying its an asspull doesnt have to make it so.

At least try to explain why it is an asspull.

I showed that doesnt have to be one.

Clearly, every powerup is just ridiculously above any limit DBZ or even GT (if considered canon) established. I remember Gohan training with the Elder Kai and being confirmed that if he went SSJ he would destroy the earth and now we have gods and god-like saiyans unleashing their powers on earth. Are they weaker than Gohans final form ? Where is the limit ?

Trunks powerups are such an asspull that it isn't exactly clear wth his final form is.

 

[The Messiah]

It could just be the fact he trained with Vegeta and got exposed to god ki and since he's a half breed he can't turn into the full ssb form like Kakarot and Vegeta.

Only the haters mad though. Trunks solos just like his dad Prince Vegeta.

 

[Meowazziel]

Trunks powerups are such an asspull that it isn't exactly clear wth his final form is.

It cant be an asspull as we dont know what exactly his final form is.

We dont know the rules, limits etc of the form.
Therefore someone cant say omg he cant do that what an asspull.
Because you dont even know what the form is and what trunks can do with it.

 

[-immortal-]

Its an bigger asspul then pulling ass

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

It is still an asspull since Toei never explained shit about his new form, and the execution was completely off paced with almost none to zero buildup. Seriously it has always been the fans to come up with the interpretation and some conspiracy theory. I can list great notable thing to make sense but it is the Job of Toei to explain the details by filling all the loose hole.

How did Future trunk was able to tapped into God Ki??

- For one Trunk might had his potential unlocked thanks to the Z sword, thus he might able to access the god ki quicker after he had trained with Vegeta for unknown period of time ( He might also trained during offscreen).

- Future Trunk is a Prodigy which mean he has greater battle expertise than Goku. This might had result due to the fact that he's the sole Z survivor who had his duty to fight and to protect his world for a lifetime experience.

- Trunk is a Hybrid Sayian which are known to have Greater potential than regular sayian. That has always been the reoccuring theme throughout DBZ. They can easily adapt faster and get stronger and evolve much quicker.

Everything listed above might had explained how he was able to learn Mafuba so quick in a less of 5 minute.

This can be same apply to the spirit bomb except on 2 different occasion.

1. How did Trunk learn Spirit Bomb?

2. Why did it take few remaining survivors on earth for Future Trunk to gather enough energy to wipe Merged Zamasu Slate clean despite he's "half immortal" which atleast half of his body should able to regenerate regardless yet it took entire earth population to destroy Kid Buu?

 

[pakitoT3L3K]

I read about people saying that Trunks his powers are asspull.

However they really arent an asspull.

For starters we dont know exactly what his new form is.
It might be the cannon version of the Legendary SSJ
and we dont know the potential of this form as cannon version.
Not its potential abilities, not its potential growth etc.

The spiritbombesque sword also does not have to be an asspull.
We dont know the potential abilities conscious and subconscious of the form.

BUT but you may say, only planet earth gave energy to Trunks,
whereas Goku used energy from multiple planets vs Buu. So how is planet earth enough for slicing Zamasu?

Goku wasnt in Trunks his type of SSJform vs Buu.
Trunks his SSJform might not add the energy cumulatively.
Trunks also received energy from Goku and Vegeta.
A lot more energy was needed against Buu as Buu his regeneration abilities
were higher than fusion Zamasu, who got sliced in half. Slicing Buu in half wouldnt have cut it (pun ).
It might not only be about energy but also about the will of the people.
Those in trunks his timeline were a lot more personally involved.

Thus Trunks his power and abilities dont have to be an asspull.

Guy he literally can fight vegito now :/ WTF before he absorbed the spirit energy. Tell me, out all the zensus that goku and vegeta ate how can neither of them fight black zamasu, yet trunks gets to basicly solo him before finishing off his body with the energy, as pull my friend almost as big an asspull as bleach asspulls only giving them the original factor. How does he have a zenkai power up with no zensus

 

[Nobel]

Guy he literally can fight vegito now :/ WTF before he absorbed the spirit energy. Tell me, out all the zensus that goku and vegeta ate how can neither of them fight black zamasu, yet trunks gets to basicly solo him before finishing off his body with the energy, as pull my friend almost as big an asspull as bleach asspulls only giving them the original factor. How does he have a zenkai power up with no zensus

What the hell is wrong with you? Trunks is dust before Vegito, nothing else than that. Trunks only got the power to finish the job from the magical sprit bomb because of pure asspull, and even THAT is no where near enough to come close to Vegito's divine power.

 

[EZQ]

It is still an asspull since Toei never explained shit about his new form, and the execution was completely off paced with almost none to zero buildup. Seriously it has always been the fans to come up with the interpretation and some conspiracy theory. I can list great notable thing to make sense but it is the Job of Toei to explain the details by filling all the loose hole.

How did Future trunk was able to tapped into God Ki??

- For one Trunk might had his potential unlocked thanks to the Z sword, thus he might able to access the god ki quicker after he had trained with Vegeta for unknown period of time ( He might also trained during offscreen).

- Future Trunk is a Prodigy which mean he has greater battle expertise than Goku. This might had result due to the fact that he's the sole Z survivor who had his duty to fight and to protect his world for a lifetime experience.

- Trunk is a Hybrid Sayian which are known to have Greater potential than regular sayian. That has always been the reoccuring theme throughout DBZ. They can easily adapt faster and get stronger and evolve much quicker.

Everything listed above might had explained how he was able to learn Mafuba so quick in a less of 5 minute.

This can be same apply to the spirit bomb except on 2 different occasion.

1. How did Trunk learn Spirit Bomb?

2. Why did it take few remaining survivors on earth for Future Trunk to gather enough energy to wipe Merged Zamasu Slate clean despite he's "half immortal" which atleast half of his body should able to regenerate regardless yet it took entire earth population to destroy Kid Buu?

You're right about everything except the bold.

Against Buu: Base goku, who was weak AF against Buu, needed genkidama to completely wipe out Buu

Against Zamasu: Trunks, who got energy from vegeta and goku (after this his aura grows tremmendously) is not that much weaker than fused Zamasu, so the energy he gathered is not everything in the attack

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

"We don't know blah blah blah" is all I get from this thread. Its an asspull move on.

 

[Shiroyasha]

Clearly, every powerup is just ridiculously above any limit DBZ or even GT (if considered canon) established. I remember Gohan training with the Elder Kai and being confirmed that if he went SSJ he would destroy the earth and now we have gods and god-like saiyans unleashing their powers on earth. Are they weaker than Gohans final form ? Where is the limit ?

Trunks powerups are such an asspull that it isn't exactly clear wth his final form is.

Wait, what?? When was that ever stated? Link please? If that's the case, then why wasn't Elder Kai worried when Vegito transformed into a Super Saiyan? He's obviously leagues above Mystic Gohan, and yet not a single soul was scared? If this is your only argument against DBS, then it's sad.

You also mentioned something about destructive capabilities of the characters. Besides Goku vs Beerus that happened above earth, there hasn't been a major battle ever since. The only "battle" that happened on earth was when Beerus disguised himself as Monaka and fought Goku. And eventually, Whis effortlessly stopped the fight (lol) because he was afraid that they were going to destroy the planet.

 

[JStar King]

I still call Asspull.

:sdo:

 

[Kiiszame]

Lol no valid argument.
This is an asspull by definition of all ass pulls because theres no explanation for it.

Definition: An Asspull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without Foreshadowing or dropping a Chekhov's Gun earlier on.

Clearly defines exactly what happened in that episode. NO build up to him learning spirit bomb type move. Suddenly he can make energy swords. ASSPULL.

 

[JStar King]

Lol no valid argument.
This is an asspull by definition of all ass pulls because theres no explanation for it.

Definition: An Asspull is a moment when the writers pull something out of thin air in a less-than-graceful narrative development, violating the Law of Conservation of Detail by dropping a plot-critical detail in the middle, or near the end of their narrative without Foreshadowing or dropping a Chekhov's Gun earlier on.

Clearly defines exactly what happened in that episode. NO build up to him learning spirit bomb type move. Suddenly he can make energy swords. ASSPULL.

Lol, damage control as always

:elmo:

 

[Kiiszame]

Lol, damage control as always

:elmo:

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[Natsu Shazneel]

I still call Asspull.

:sdo:

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