demon of the leaf
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Yawn oh look the sides have switched now its the left launching petty attacks on the right now both sides need to get the **** over it this shit is beyond annoying
Trump Makes Up Terrorist Attack, Says He Got it From FOX News
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~WastelandSociety~
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Because libtards care more about the media adding words too Trumps mouth then what's actually going on.
whiteboy2345
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Trump didn't even say that a terrorist attack happened, he just said that something occurred in Sweden the night before and as it turns out, riots had unfurled in the country. Mass rapes and attacks have been occurring there, which is why so many Swedish women are leaving, and why the Swedish male population is larger than the female population because no one is protecting Swedish women.
Stop nitpicking, and criticize the man for something worthwhile. Doing this petty stuff will only hurt you in the long-run, I promise. you.
Stop nitpicking, and criticize the man for something worthwhile. Doing this petty stuff will only hurt you in the long-run, I promise. you.
Lightbringer
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What's happening in Malmo? A fake story? That whole thing about it being a "crime-ridden city" was propagated by far-right editors such as Infowars.
Literally the crime rate in Sweden has been decreasing for the past decade and Malmo's crime rate is still lower the the other major cities such as Stockholm.
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You sure that's not the president making shit up more than what's actually going on?
"We've got to keep our country safe," he said. "You look at what's happening in Germany. You look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris."
Yeah, totally wasn't talking about terrorist attacks and mentioned Sweden within that context.
Seriously, you drink so much of Trump's Koolaid it's sad.
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Actually it's not that bad. Sure some stuff is happening, but the media makes it look way worse than it is.
Rape is happening all over the world, constantly. Just because the media only reports the rape in sweden doesn't mean it's only happening there.
I live here, and i'm not scared. You should be more careful of getting shot. Being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Gangs are in war. They won't kill the innocent ones.
~WastelandSociety~
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I don't drink anyone's koolaid,unlike you kid.
Honestly I feel sorry for you seeing how idiotic you're acting.
You clearly don't think for yourself and allow the media to influence your thought process.
Try watching c-span,they don't add their opinion/negative spin and bias unlike other media sources or take things out of context.
If you still think Trump made up a terrorist attack when there's no mention of it in his speech ,then I suggest you should stop drinking the koolaid for awhile or stop reaching for something that's not there.
Lightbringer
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Sure you don't, you only had Trump's avatar Photoshoped on some angel for over a year. Please tell me more about how you don't touch yourself to the thought of him.
3rd Raikage
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That's false and you know it. Seriously, how can anyone be this naive and intellectually dishonest is beyond me. First of all if you look at the whole country you'd realize that sexual crime and murder have increased. There's no question about it. Check the national data from Brå.
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. So only a mere 100% increase.
So here we have an increase of 700% and you dare to talk about crime decreasing? Lol.
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Secondly, if you look at what has happened since Sweden opened it's borders to mass immigration in the end of the 70's you'd know that since then the crime has gone up drastically. And this is according to the official stats from the police:
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So even if the murder and rape rates would have decreased in these last few years (which they haven't) it doesn't mean anything because the numbers were already higher than the average numbers before the open door policy in the 70's.
Thirdly, if there is no problem, why 80% of Swedish policemen have thought about resigning from their job because of the fact that "the goverment hasn't given them enough tools to tackle the crime epidemic". Every day three police officers resigns from their job in Sweden. Explain that one to me.
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Be sure to check that quote/article through google translate if you don't take my word on it.
Here's the core of the problems in Sweden, and this is basically all you need to know:
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If Trump would've just referenced this article, there would have been no crying from the left because Sanandaji is an expert on this, as an immigrant and professor of economics himself.
I hope in the future you do not spew your propaganda about things you do not know or/and understand. This is a serious problem in Sweden not only security-wise, but an economic problem as well. You or anyone should not be undermining that.
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Lightbringer
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That's all well and good, but the official crime statistics from The Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, an agency under the Ministry of Justice and a centre for research and development within the judicial system says otherwise.
You even posted a source without reading it that literally says this. You're simply nitpicking certain statistics and omitting the fact that there is a downward trend in crime and has been for over ten years. A small spike in crime does not change that trend. There will always be fluctuations.
It's honestly disgraceful.
Alternative facts are not facts. So please log off.
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whiteboy2345
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If the spark in crime is caused by the migrants, is it wrong for the Swedes to want them gone? A little girl got raped by a male migrant, and a woman was taken into a forest, beaten, raped, and then had a large rock or a boulder thrown onto her corpse. Any country has the right to refuse entry to anyone they want to.
These migrants need to go to Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. They know that they are better attuned for those countries, but even Muslims can't stand their own insanely corrupt and rigorous laws.
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Lightbringer
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So every single spike in crime is because of migrants? And every rape is because of migrants?
That's not how statistics work. And there is very little correlation between the migrants and any spike in crime.
You're singling out horrific crimes in order to condemn and entire population. That's why there are statistics to make sure people like you don't spread your abhorrent agendas.
whiteboy2345
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Strawmanning me again. If a specific group's arrival has caused a spike in specific crimes, then your country should be worried. The evidence has shown that Swedish men aren't the ones forming rape gangs and ruining the lives of Swedish women. You yourself showed a chart where the crimes surged during the years of the migrants arrival since 2014 and yet you're telling me that I'm grouping them all together? LOL
If a group is causing problems then they simply are. I do not advocate for grouping them all together and calling them all guilty but I refuse to accept this idea that we need to let more migrants in and force Sweden to adapt to this unfairness that is plaguing them at this point.
Hell, you didn't even say anything about my second point which proves that these migrants don't give a damn about peace and just want free handouts. If they wanted peace, Saudi Arabia is next door.
Lightbringer
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Where was my strawman? There is no evidence to support what you're saying. I don't know how much clearer I can say it.
Just because you think that there is a spike, and not a substantial one at that, around the time migrants are coming in, that there must be a connection.
Well there isn't.
You're making an illusory correlation. So keep drinking that Koolaid.
whiteboy2345
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So there is no connection whatsoever? Are you really this delusional? So if it isn't the migrants then who is it?
Lightbringer
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Spikes happen in every single nation and are caused by a multitude of things. It's a common thing that doesn't point to one specific occurrence. To think that the a crime rate will remain steady is what is delusional.
You're correlating things that has very little connection. Correlation does not equate to causation.
The fact that you can't grasp that point is mind boggling.
whiteboy2345
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You still never answered my question.
Sweden is not the only country facing a rise in crime due to migrants which is why your "correlation does not equal causation" argument doesn't work. We've seen enough instances to prove that the cultural differences of the migrants and native Europeans is causing a clash that is badly affecting the European populace.
Regardless of how racist it might sound, the natives come before the migrants. Whether the natives are white, black, or brown doesn't matter. What we need to focus on now is getting these neighboring countries to allow these migrants in. And the sad thing is, these countries know what will happen if they let them in and because of that, they're letting them all go to Europe.
Lightbringer
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I'm talking about Sweden because that is what the thread is about. There is very little correlation between the migrants and the spike in crime rate.
Until you understand that, then we can talk about reasonable solutions.
Now I will say, I do not agree with Sweden simply letting them in. I believe there should be a stricter vetting process, but kicking them out or quarantining them is not a solution either.
The reason that I don't bring those points up is because I'm trying to dismiss this hysteric notion that there is absolute chaos caused by migrants.
And until we can finally both come to terms with the facts that you're over-blowing the situation, then we can have a rational conversation about how to approach whatever problems there are.
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3rd Raikage
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Tell me what you do not understand about this:
=a 100% increase in sexual crimes (12 year period).
=a 700% increase in murders (25 year period)
=are immigrants the majority in Sweden? No. So they are committing crimes disproportionate to their population size. Thus there is a correlation between the crime spikes and migrants.
Add all this to the fact that the crime rates have steadily increased since the 70's and that every day three police officers quit their job because of the crime epidemic (80% have thought about it). If immigrants are committing most of the crime, who is creating the crime epidemic? Yes,I think you already realized it. If not, please read this post one more time.
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