True power of Jiraiya

Gein

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Well, I was "medicated" during the writing of this.
This is just a little something I was working on to support why Jiraiya is underestimated. Or why people think he is overrated.

Hello, I am here to deliver points about Jiraiya. I love Jiraiya but far from biased.

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I’ll start with Sannin. (Lit. “Legendary Three Ninja”)
The Sannin are three legendary shinobi hailed as the greatest of their time.
As kids they were trained under the God of Shinobi, Hiruzen Sarutobi.
The Sannin consist of, Orochimaru, Tsunade, and Jiraiya.
The three are considered kage level without a doubt.
This name was rightfully earned and bestowed by Hanzo the Salamander.


Now for kage.
Kage’s are leaders of the village, usually the strongest in the village.
Jiraiya was trained by Hiruzen, who was trained by Hashirama and Tobirama Senju.
Hiruzen and Hashirama are known as the God of Shinobi. All three being Hokage.
The Senju and Sarutobi clans are known for their immense abilities.
Jiraiya never became Hokage, though he turned it down twice.

Sensei and student is a very powerful bond. The better the sensei, the better the student will usually turn out. Thus the new generation always passing the older. Except in the case of passing the almighty Hashirama.


Now Sage mode.
Sage mode is a very powerful asset to only a few have been able to use and master.
When users draw in natural energy and mix it into their chakra they enter sage mode.
It’s said that only those with naturally high chakra can utilize natural energy. They also need a resilient body.
With sage mode the users abilities are enhanced dramatically. The natural energy can also act as an extension of the users body inflicting physical damage without actually having to touch the opponent.
While Jiraiyas sage mode is incomplete it gives him access to other abilities that include Ma and Pa.

4-tail Naruto
Jiraiya was able to take on Naruto while in 4 tailed state.
He was almost killed because he wasn’t trying to harm Naruto, but to suppress the chakra of Kurama .Naruto in the 4 tailed state is extremely powerful. Changing the landscape and nearly killing Orochimaru.

Jiraiya vs. Orochimaru
While drugged by Tsunade, Jiraiya was still able to stalemate or even outclass Orochimaru.
Even though Orochimaru had no use of his arms and was using Kabuto as his help, it doesn't discredit the fact that Orochimaru is still extremely powerful without having to use hand signs and jutsu.

Jiraiya vs Itachi vs Pain
I bring this up because many people doubt Jiraiya could take on Itachi.
When Itachi and Kisame came to take Naruto, Itachi said even if he had backup the results would be the same. After only using Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi one time each, Itachi was exhausted and needed rest even deactivated his sharingan right after leaving.
The situation with the back up could mean many things. Such as, Jiraiya is still too powerful for another team of Akatsuki or Itachi wouldn’t let Jiraiya or his backup kill each other. And that Jiraiya wouldn’t kill Itachi or during the fight with Itachis back up Jiraiya would obviously recieve back up too being in Konoha. I do not think Itachi would get all the other Akatsuki as back up as many people have said.

I am not saying Jiraiya would have won 100% but my bets are on him.
People say Itachi was lying when he was talking to him but I simply dont think so.

Pain said that if Jiraiya would have known the truth, he would have beaten him.
That means Jiraiya is stronger than pain.
I hope I don’t recieve hate or have to elaborate why Pain/Nagato > Itachi.

Jiraiya also has a wide arsenal of jutsu.
-Rasengan
-Summoning
-Swamp of the underworld
-Ultra-Big Ball Rasengan
-Goemon
and various others.

I apologize if this degraded in quality while coming to end.
It seems while I have started becoming a part of this forum Master Jiraiya seems to not get credit where he deserves it.
Im sure I missed things but I am fuzzy I haven't seen the master in a while.
I will try to improve on it later today and include scans.

Thank you for reading. I was just wanting to get it off my chest!
 
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Well, he is very strong...

And I agree with you almost upto 90%...
 

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Jiraiya outclassed Orochimaru..? Dude got fodderized by his tongue.
 

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Jiraiya outclassed Orochimaru..? Dude got fodderized by his tongue.
I said that thinking about how Jiraiya would have did if he wasnt all messed up.
 

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J-man should of been an Edo tensei. I don't know why Kishimoto has forgotten about Jiraiya and Orochimaru. Weren't they the reincarnartion of Ashura and Indra as well? I mean after Hashirama and Madara it'd only make sense if it was Oro and J-man, but I guess not... I guess Kishi wants to remove the signifance of Jiraiya.
 

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jiraiya was definitely one of the strongest before sm naruto xd he could have solo'd pain who solo'd most of konoha
 

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I like your ideas man. I liked the old man. Yeah the only mistake he made with Pain was because he let down his guard. He got the 3 down and if he didn't let down his guard, could've take another 3 down as well. But I guess when Nagato'd use Chibaku Tensei, then I'd think that'd crush Jiraiya
 

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J-man should of been an Edo tensei. I don't know why Kishimoto has forgotten about Jiraiya and Orochimaru. Weren't they the reincarnartion of Ashura and Indra as well? I mean after Hashirama and Madara it'd only make sense if it was Oro and J-man, but I guess not... I guess Kishi wants to remove the signifance of Jiraiya.

I think that was because it would be too emotional in the time of war and/or having a limitless Jiraiya on the field.
He went out like a legend and in a way that will stay in your heart.

Never forget. RIP Jiraiya
 

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He didn't take out 4 tail Naruto don't you remember his scar???
 

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I like your ideas man. I liked the old man. Yeah the only mistake he made with Pain was because he let down his guard. He got the 3 down and if he didn't let down his guard, could've take another 3 down as well. But I guess when Nagato'd use Chibaku Tensei, then I'd think that'd crush Jiraiya

True, Jiraiya could have figured it out. But alas Kishi had other plans.
He just has so many abilities and outs.
 

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He didn't take out 4 tail Naruto don't you remember his scar???

Read it again. I didnt say he took him out but suppressed Kuramas chakra.
 

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Read it again. I didnt say he took him out but suppressed Kuramas chakra.

I just did .... here

Jiraiya was able to take on Naruto while in 4 tailed state.

I don't think there is another possible meaning of this... it just says that
 

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I just did .... here



I don't think there is another possible meaning of this... it just says that


Lol it means that he was able to take him on. Just fought with him head to toe but didn't necessarily take him out
 

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I just did .... here



I don't think there is another possible meaning of this... it just says that

He took him on. As in went one and one and survived. He wasnt trying to fight him or take him out.
He didn't want to harm Naruto.
He was only trying to suppress the beast within.
Therefore obtaining a scar because of the lack of force used on naruto.
 

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Wow, this is strange. I was going to make a thread about Jiraiya myself, seeing how everyone forgot how powerful he was. +rep
 

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I believe Jiriaya is equal to Itachi strength wise, because Itachi told Kisame if they both fought they would both die(and if you believe Itachi was lying where is the proof?). I also believe sage mode Jiraiya was stronger than sage mode Naruto when he defeated pain, because he had Ma and Pa both joined with him and giving him almost a unlimited amount of nature energy since they can gather it while Jiriaya fights. He's the strongest out of the Sannin, Sage mode gives Jiriaya the advantage over Orochimaru. I'm not sure if he could have beaten Tendo pain however, I'm not sure how he could deal with a planetary devastation.
 

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Jiraiya has such beast stats. People forget how strong he was since he's been dead a while and we've seen Naruto, Kabuto, and Hashirama have stronger Sage Modes. Great thread.
 

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J-Man is one of the strongest ninja in history.

and look at the students he produced

1. Nagato ~ A beast with out any question. Leader of Akatsuki, Rinnegan user, Mastered all chakra natures by the age of 10.
2. Yahiko ~ Yahiko was never portrayed well, Assuming he is a excellent suiton user
3. Konan ~ A very strong Kunoichi who was even able to injure obito and even force him on using izanagi
4. Minato ~ Earned the title of Yellow flash. Hokage
5. Naruto ~ A Monstrous beast. Calls all nine tailed beasts by their name and plays with them and also the reincarnation of Ashura. Hokage Candidate.
 
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