[Theory] True origins of the Sharingan and Rinnegan via the "Jubigan"

[CasualMisfit]

just wanted to put alil idea out there about the 2 most powerful eye bloodlines...

So we know these eyes were passed down from the SO6P... But wait... is it possible that the Sharingan was actually passed down from the Jubi?

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If we look at the eye of the Jubi... you can clearly see that it is a combination of the Sharingan and Rinnegan...

The sage has never been shown with such eyes... only the Rinnegan... so it's safe to assume those eyes belong to the sage...

Now the most obvious question is... How would the Jubi pass the eyes down?... Well the SO6P played host to the Jubi... this could have led to a melding of their chakra/DNA... adding the Sharingan to the genepool... so when passed down along one line of the SO6P... we have the Uchiha with a watered down version of the (let's call it) Jubigan...

Furthermore to my theory... Take Itachi's recent words into account... the combination of Nagato's and his own eyes being able to do almost anything... together they form the Jubigan in seperate bodies...

well.. there it is... what do you think?

 

[Migualon J.J.]

VERY INTERESTING, never really thought about juubi giving sharingan to "uchiha"

 

[Alphonse Elric]

Tbh ever since I saw the 10 tails I thought that's how the sharingan came to be. I thought the eldest son got some of the powers of both which is why his eyes looked neither like sharingan or rinnengan. Then it later became a sharingan in time.

Here is the eldest sons eyes.

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[CasualMisfit]

Tbh ever since I saw the 10 tails I thought that's how the sharingan came to be. I thought the eldest son got some of the powers of both which is why his eyes looked neither like sharingan or rinnengan. Then it later became a sharingan in time.

Here is the eldest sons eyes.

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I was thinking of those eyes in that pic before... But I came the the conclusion that they were just a simplified drawing of the Rinnegan... Naturally I could be wrong... but it would make sense that the Uzumakis are the only ones able to generate the Rinnegan amongst their clansmen...

 

[Super Kami Guru]

great theory but i agree the jubi could have been under the control of the sage at that point however

 

[Lord Snow]

maybe uzamakis have both senju and uchiha dna, thats why they were able to get rinnegan

 

[BlackGamabunta]

just wanted to put alil idea out there about the 2 most powerful eye bloodlines...

So we know these eyes were passed down from the SO6P... But wait... is it possible that the Sharingan was actually passed down from the Jubi?

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If we look at the eye of the Jubi... you can clearly see that it is a combination of the Sharingan and Rinnegan...

The sage has never been shown with such eyes... only the Rinnegan... so it's safe to assume those eyes belong to the sage...

Now the most obvious question is... How would the Jubi pass the eyes down?... Well the SO6P played host to the Jubi... this could have led to a melding of their chakra/DNA... adding the Sharingan to the genepool... so when passed down along one line of the SO6P... we have the Uchiha with a watered down version of the (let's call it) Jubigan...

Furthermore to my theory... Take Itachi's recent words into account... the combination of Nagato's and his own eyes being able to do almost anything... together they form the Jubigan in seperate bodies...

well.. there it is... what do you think?

how could you neglect the fact that there are three powerful eyes, the one you missed to mention is the byakugan....

 

[CasualMisfit]

how could you neglect the fact that there are three powerful eyes, the one you missed to mention is the byakugan....

I missed them intentionally... I mean... besides the fact that they have never featured in the overall major plot of the story... they haven't done anything uber special besides see at all angles and over great distances and their ability to see and pinpoint chakra holes... so yeah... :/

 

[Floydical]

Now the most obvious question is... How would the Jubi pass the eyes down?... Well the SO6P played host to the Jubi... this could have led to a melding of their chakra/DNA... adding the Sharingan to the genepool... so when passed down along one line of the SO6P... we have the Uchiha with a watered down version of the (let's call it) Jubigan...

well.. there it is... what do you think?

Or the Sage created the Juubi from his own power. I discussed the possibility

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[Lord Snow]

I missed them intentionally... I mean... besides the fact that they have never featured in the overall major plot of the story... they haven't done anything uber special besides see at all angles and over great distances and their ability to see and pinpoint chakra holes... so yeah... :/

yeah kishi never upgraded the byakugan, when talking about powerful eyes, all there is sharinagn and rinnegan . the byakugan dont stand a chance against eitherxd

 

[Shakaku 01]

Yeah but still, where byakugan come from? Can you answer that?

 

[CasualMisfit]

Or the Sage created the Juubi from his own power. I discussed the possibility

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I'll check that out in a mo'!

yeah kishi never upgraded the byakugan, when talking about powerful eyes, all there is sharinagn and rinnegan . the byakugan dont stand a chance against eitherxd

Exactly... I am abit put out about that... but I think maybe 3 OP eyes running about would be abit much maybe!!!

yeah that's what I thought too. but i wonder where the biakugan came from

Maybe like the Uchiha being distant relatives of the Senju... the Hyugas are distant relatives of the Uchihas?

 

[TheBadMojo]

You all need to do more homework.

Anyhow, as seen when Madara controlled the Kyuubi.. the Kyuubi's eyes took the form of a sharingan.

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and when you refer to using the Sharingan to take control over something you consider it them under a genjutsu.. so the 9 tomoe rinnegan is probably how the changes when the rinnegan is used for genjutsu.. since we have never seen the rinnegan used for genjutsu I accept that as a reasonable explaination for the 9 tomoe rinnegan. It just makes sense.

 

[Narutosixpaths]

Or the Sage created the Juubi from his own power. I discussed the possibility

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Nah while that would have been interesting showing that he'd be even more powerful then we thought, but it's not possible.

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on that manga page it shows how they say, the Sage created sealing jutsus, to save the world from the Jubi monster that was rampaging because he sealed it in his own body to suppress it becoming the first ever Jinchuriki.

 

[kcy0]

You all need to do more homework.

Anyhow, as seen when Madara controlled the Kyuubi.. the Kyuubi's eyes took the form of a sharingan.

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and when you refer to using the Sharingan to take control over something you consider it them under a genjutsu.. so the 9 tomoe rinnegan is probably how the changes when the rinnegan is used for genjutsu.. since we have never seen the rinnegan used for genjutsu I accept that as a reasonable explaination for the 9 tomoe rinnegan. It just makes sense.

Agreed, otherwise why wouldn't the Juubi be attacking the Sage rather than just standing there. The Juubi's eye is a reflection of being under a super genjutsu that has the combined occular powers of Sharingan and Rinnegan.

 

[CasualMisfit]

You all need to do more homework.

Anyhow, as seen when Madara controlled the Kyuubi.. the Kyuubi's eyes took the form of a sharingan.

You must be registered for see images

and when you refer to using the Sharingan to take control over something you consider it them under a genjutsu.. so the 9 tomoe rinnegan is probably how the changes when the rinnegan is used for genjutsu.. since we have never seen the rinnegan used for genjutsu I accept that as a reasonable explaination for the 9 tomoe rinnegan. It just makes sense.

Based on that assumptiong towards the Rinnegan... my main point was the origin of the Sharingan... so removing the Rinnegan out of the Jubigan equation... I can still say the Sharingan came from the Jubi...

It is possible that the eyes are indeed manipulated by the SO6P... but then again this picture is more symbolic of their fight... is it possible that such detail was not included?

As for my homework... I don't make up theories without doing just that!

 

[apple pie of doom]

Well, I still believe the sage got the rinnegan AFTER becoming the juubi's host.
And if he entered his beast mode it would look like a mixed sharingan and rinnegan.

Basically that.