Sasori (Transcendence), Itachi (AkatsukiChurch) versus Muu (Prince Charles), Kisame (Zexion~)Conditions of the Battle
Itachi is healthy. Sasori has the Sandaime out. And both members of a team have full knowledge on their teammate. Intel: Manga. Location: Kisame versus Kirabi. Distance: 40m Restrctions: Izanami.
Yes. Each of us make one post that is based on their own character to explain how he would help his teammate defeat the second team, however, they can use minor support from your partner's character.
Isn't it kind of sad and pathetic that someone thinks they are good at something because of "praise" from people, but it turns out those people are just imitating another delusional fool and are actually mocking said person?
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and for the rest of you suckers who be underestimating the turnt up king heres a little something something for yall!#kim possible#Ron stoppable#turndowforwhat?
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Anyways LEH GO!
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Im a sinner! whos probably gunna sin again! lord forgive me.. lord give me.. ima have to mop the floor with AC and transcendence.. sometimes i need to be alone... bch dont kill my vibe! (argument is in spoiler)
~Mu sama~
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How exactly will Mu support kisame in this deadly match against Itachi Uchiha and Sasori of the red sand? To start thing's off Tobirama and Mu are both sensors of high caliber with supported Manga panel showed in the early parts of the war. A common feat shared with Tobirama and Mu is the fact that both character's are capable to discern between chakra signatures of shinobi from different populations.
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Going by those two scan's displaying their feat, right off the bat Mu sama will immediately know that Itachi is a uchiha making putting him immediately on the cautious side of looking into his eye's and being placed into a genjutsu. Onoki already displayed the knowledge of not making eye contact with a sharigan user[
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]. The obvious fact that Mu is the teacher of Onoki they both already have experience fighting the sharigan and once went toe to toe with Madara uchiha so Mu will be sure expect the worse especially when he notices Itachi wields a Mangekyo sharigan, Onoki having the experience also noticed the quick change in Madara's eyes[
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]. Anyway's let's talk about kisame, given Itachi's intel on Amateasu and seeing the danger of his genjutsu at first hand against Deidara[
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] he will be sure to fill in Mu on amaterasu and itachi's high caliber genjutsu, that being said it will only be in Mu' favor once he learns of amaterasu he should be capable of sensing the pressure similar to what nagato did[
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] in that very same scan it has been shown when Itachi wants to focus on a specific target the focus and chakra take's longer as seeing killer bee was capable of intervening by throwing a blade which means Mu should be more than capable of vanishing before amaterasu is released, even if Mu does get hit with amaterasu he has ways to counter it by using his fission technique by duplicating himself[
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] which would lessen the damage of amaterasu which means he would end up sacrificing his other body and kisame's via samehada can potentially absorb the rest of amaterasu off him.
Just to note if kisame were to get trapped in a genjutsu, which he can counter by making water bushin's Mu would capable of knowing that Kisame is in a genjutsu Immediately similar to what karin did in this panel when sasuke an danzo were fighting.
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Regarding Mu's invisibility many say it is arguable that Dojutsu such as the sharigan can still see the chakra network even when Mu's turn's invisible which is up for debate I won't deny that. Anyway's sasori is easily taken care of by a jinton prep while kisame is handling itachi with Water bushins and turning the landscape into a lake which will only make it easier on kisame's part to evade itachi's attack unless get absorbed by samehada first. Another should be noted is that kisame can steal chakra without the use of samehada[
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]. Once the landscape is changed via lake by kisame, sasori will be more vulnerable to incoming shark attacks which will only distract him while Mu is prepping a jinton to end sasori, before you argue Mu getting attacked while prepping a jinton is not happening due to his reaction and sensing skills he will easily evade the incoming attack and proceed to recharge jinton not that it takes that like for that matter. Just so you know since the landscape is changed to water this means sasori's poison becomes less effective since water dilutes substances such as poison which will only make the concentration of poison weaker and cause it to spread out.
Anyway's Itachi will only be able to hold up sussano for so long due to the side effect it has on it's user noted by sasuke.
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Also if you don't know Mu can fly while still being invisible, I can support this claim if you need me to. Anyway's this is it for now.
Regarding sasori I believe it's safe to presume that he will not be in hiruko because that instantly mean's death so we can assume that sasori would start out with his 3rd kazekage puppet. Both Mu and kisame have shown the necessary reaction and speed feats to be capable of reacting to iron sand with little no problem, I can vouch for Mu considering his sensing skills and be able to react to gaara's sand hands while the other kage's could not.
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Keeping that in mind added with the fact that sakura was capable of eventually following the movements of sasorio's movements, Mu and kisame should be more than fine against sasori's 100 puppets.
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I am also more than confident that kisame will also be capable of destroying some of the puppets that come in close with samehada as samehada was capable of taking the hit of Bee's friends metal large blade up front with no damage to samehada which proves the hardness of samehada.
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Anyway's the 3rd kazekage puppet get's done it rather easily and sasori get's finished with a water dome or gsb the same goes for Itachi's sussano which also get's eaten by a Gsb, itachi I wont deny should be capable of reacting to jinton but his chakra reserves and stamina will be on the low due to kisame changing's the landscape to water which means incoming sharks from below which will require itachi to act on the spot and waste his chakra which will leave him open to a jinton, using sussano will not work as seeing it will get obliterated along with it, his only hope is yata mirror which requires him to activate and stabilize sussano which he will not have time to before jinton makes it's impact on itachi.
The 3rd kazekage's attacks are easily dealt with by Mu not being visible so Sasori has no means to even find him which will only leave his backside open and vulnerable to a jinton, Once kisame's changes the land scape sasori and itachi will be playing kisame's turf from that point, genjutsu by Itachi's gets countered by bushins and the fact that Mu being sensor will know if kisame is in a genjutsu by feeling the disturbance in his chakra.
The majority who know me and have seen me debate know my openers are usually crappy so dont expect much.
EDIT- thats my bad if u see any miss spelled words or grammar mistakes or words that arent suppose to be there like in the beginning. was typing fast...
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Itachi Solo's
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Itachi, knowing how dangerous Kisame really is, will quickly end this fight by activating the Yūgure no Karasu Genjutsu which does not require eye contact. [
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] Before, I see some fanfiction like 'They need to look into the Crow's Sharingan eye', no. Let me establish why exactly that isn't correct;
Naruto didn't see the Crow's Sharingan until he was already IN the Genjutsu. [
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When Itachi uses Crows, in reality or in Genjutsu, their flapping causes feathers to fall off, however, once the Genjutsu ended, paying close attention we can see absolutely no feathers nor crows. [
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Look at the position of the trees around Itachi and Naruto. [
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] Now look at the position of the trees once Naruto started to run at Itachi. [
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] Both tree '1' and tree '2' were behind Naruto for a good distance. When the Genjutsu ENDS, Naruto appears at his original spot which between tree '0' and tree '1'. [
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] With this, we can easily come to the conclusion that Naruto was caught as soon as he came behind tree '1' without Itachi ever making eye contact, eye - finger contact nor crow contact with Naruto, and yet he was capable of catching him in a Genjutsu without Naruto even knowing that he was inside one until Itachi decided to made it obvious by releasing the crows onto him.
Basically, both of them will be caught inside of Itachi's Genjutsu without even knowing when it happened. After that, Itachi can quickly finish them off with his Shunshin.
Here are examples of Itachi's Shunshin;
Look at the distance between Itachi and Naruto. [
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] And suddenly in the next scan, he appears above them [
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] shocking Bī [Hence the bolded '!!?'] even though they were looking at him the whole time and were talking.
Again look at the distance between Itachi and Bī [
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], and then Itachi suddenly appeared behind Bī and even had to warn him in order for Bī to be able to counter. [
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] Sasuke [In his Hebi state] was noted to be extremely fast by both Tobi and Deidara and yet he didn't even come close to blitzing Bī unlike Itachi who actually did it. Not even Minato managed to shock Bī with his Shunshin.
Sasuke states that Itachi is faster than Kakashi. [
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Later, Itachi was capable of keeping up with Naruto and then quickly reacting to Bī's attack who came behind him in order to try and land a sneak attack on Itachi. [
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] Now take a note of this, Itachi was capable of evading Bī's attack and returning to Nagato extremely quickly considering that both Naruto and Bī were still in the same position they were in when Itachi was there after Itachi returned to Nagato's side. [
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] He needs less time to cover bigger distances than Naruto needs to move his arm.
He was capable of clone feint shunshin blitzing a Sennin Mōdo user even if said Sennin Mōdo user had great sensory capabilities. [
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We can easily come to the conclusion that his Shunshin is a lot better than even Sasuke's [
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] which quite impressive, therefore we can apply Sasuke's Shunshin feats to Itachi so he gains these as well;
→ 1] The first feat I would like to bring up is in his battle against Deidara. In this scan, Deidara is just as big as Sasuke's head [
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] and then he suddenly appears in front of Deidara, shocking him without the latter even realizing when Sasuke made the move. [
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] He even commented on Sasuke's speed by stating ''He's fast!''.
→ 2] Sasuke is standing right bellow Deidara [
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→ 3] Sasuke and his team appear to be as big as the prisoner's arm [
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] and then Sasuke suddenly appears behind him while cutting his chest open and both Karin and Suigetsu now seem a little smaller than Sasuke's head. [
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] He covered such a distance in a blink of an eye.
→ 4] Deidara is forced to use Shī Tsū because he thinks that 'Sasuke's movements are definitely too fast'. [
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] Please look at Deidara's size and the Dragon's size. [
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] Now check out the size of the explosion. [
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] Sasuke escaped the explosion and Deidara comments on his speed once again, saying 'Damn, he's fast!'.
→ 5] Next, Sasuke appears to be half the size of Naruto's head. [
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] Same can be said for Naruto. [
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] Then suddenly Sasuke appears down, holding Naruto's shoulder and shocking him. [
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] Yamato comments on his speed. Sasuke covered such a distance in a flash [
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→ 6] This may or may not be as impressive as the Shunshin feats above, but I'll still add it. Sasuke was capable of evading Bī's attack [
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→ 7] At the Kage Summit, Sasuke was capable of appearing in the meeting room and no one was capable of noticing it until he made a cut on one of the curtains which shocked those present in the room in that moment. [
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] Please note that he was fast enough to cut all three of the curtains in the room present at that time as well.
→ 8] You can see that Sasuke's head is almost as big as Sakura even though he is running. [
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] Both Sasuke and Naruto, who is in his Kyūbi Chakura Mōdo, are running towards Sakura to quickly reach her and then Sasuke suddenly appears next to her before Naruto does and Sakura is shocked given her '!'.
→ 9] Naruto is falling and Sasuke is no where in sight [Top panel] while Obito is trying to hit Naruto [
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→ 10] Sasuke and Itachi are on the other side of the cave, holding Kabuto's snakes. [
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→ 11] Sasuke is standing and the Samurai are a few meters in front of him. [
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] And then suddenly he appears behind the Samurai, making a clean cut and shocking the Samurai without us or anyone else even noticing when Sasuke made a single movement. [
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→ 12] Suigetsu and Juugo are a meter [Maybe less] from each other and are about to make their attack [
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Not only should he be called 'The Solo King', he should be called 'The Shunshin King' as well.
Now, I see that you're trying to argue that Bunshin would be capable of breaking Itachi's Genjutsu which is completely incorrect. As soon as Kisame gets caught in Genjutsu, his Bunshins will stop recieving Kisame's Chakura signals as shown when Kakashi's Bunshin stopped recieving Kakashi's Chakura signal [Even though he was the one caught in Genjutsu] and couldn't move anymore. [
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] You also have to realize that a Bunshin has Chakura contact with the original, seeing as how Naruto's Bunshin felt pain when Kurama was taking over Naruto's body. [
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The conclusion is that Kisame's Bunshin will be effected by the Genjutsu. It's either going to be caught along with Kisame in it or it won't be capable of moving anymore which would allow Itachi to quickly end the original Kisame and Mū.
I'm assuming one of you will try to argue that Samehada can break one of them out of the Genjutsu which is completely incorrect considering that it needed at least two people along with Naruto himself to break him out of Itachi's Utakata. [
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] Two of these people were medical shinobi who need to have perfect Chakura control so saying that Samehada would break Kisame out of the Genjutsu when it needed two people to break Naruto out is kinda unlikely.
Furthermore, is Samehada really intelligent enough to realize that Kisame is in a Genjutsu? Doubt it. She didn't even warn Bī when Itachi appeared behind him and Itachi himself had to do it. It's doubtful that Samehada can notice if her wielder is in danger unless the damage [wound] is clearly visible.
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And finally, I expect to hear the ''They will fight by looking at Itachi's feet'' argument which is incorrect as well. You have to realize that Gai and Gai alone is the only one who is capable of doing this because of his Taijutsu mastery [
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] which both Kisame and Mū lack so they won't be capable of using that tactic. Especially since the latter would be flying and looking down so avoiding Itachi's eyes won't really be an option for him. As for Kisame, even if by some miracle he manages to evade Itachi's eyes in the beginning, Itachi can quickly appear in front of him and force him to look into his eyes just like he did against Sasuke while the Utakata [Finger Genjutsu] completely destroys their chance of evading Genjutsu.
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The Yūgure no Karasu Genjutsu should be more than capable of ending this. And with a lack of a counter to Itachi's Genjustu, especially Tsukuyomi, they will fall to the Crow and Scorpion duo. Furthermore, please do note that Sasori is here as well so what does that mean exactly? Death.
With Sasori and Itachi standing next to each other, it's over. They won't be capable of seeing Sasori's fingers because if they raise their vision, they will come into contact with Itachi's eyes or finger so Genjutsu ends it. On the other hand, they won't be capable of seeing what Sasori's fingers, Satetsu or puppets are doing if they keep on fighting by looking at their feet and considering the Satetsu's speed, it's over.
What if Scenario:
If Itachi by some miracle does not end them quickly with his Genjutsu or Shunshin blitzes, they'll have to do it the hard way. Itachi will begin by sending a flock of crows after Mū who will be flying up in order to escape being caught in Kisame's Dai Bakusui Shōha. These crows will keep him busy be blocking his vision and mainly be irritating like trying to scratch his eyes, face, etc.
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After leaving a Karasu Bunshin next to Sasori, Itachi will proceed to engage Kisame in combat while Sasori himself will create a Satetsu Bird or platform considering that he is capable of creating any shape out of the Satetsu.
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This Satetsu object will allow Sasori and Itachi to take into the skies. However, if Kisame if by some chance spits out his Suiton before Sasori creates the needed Satetsu object which is extremely doubtful, Itachi will keep him busy by using his Shunshin so that he doesn't get the needed time of spitting out the Suiton. Even if he does manage to do so by some miracle, Itachi will quickly return to Sasori's side and repel the Suiton with the Yata no Kagami, allowing Sasori to finish the object.
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Is this hype? Definitely not. Anyways, before flying off, Itachi will quickly take out the Totsuka no Tsurugi and finish off Kisame who has no knowledge on either of the spiritual weapons. Kisame, thinking that it's made out of Chakura, will try to absorb it which would result in him being pierced and sealed by the blade just like Orochimaru [
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] considering that his fighting style is based on absorbing the enemy's techniques and Chakura which would without a doubt cost him his life in this battle. [
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Kisame is finished right there which leaves only Mū left.
Second What if Scenario:
If Kisame by some miracle does not get sealed, it doesn't really matter anymore since Sasori and Itachi will be flying now. This means that absolutely none of Kisame's attacks will be capable of reaching them anymore because the water itself lacks the ability of flight so any Suiton won't be able to follow Sasori into the air because it will simply fall back down including the Daikōdan no Jutsu. More so, Itachi will read Kisame's hand seals with the Sharingan and then he will proceed to tell Sasori so they will be one step ahead of them both at all times.
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Now, as for Mū himself. His Meisaigakure no Jutsu won't be helpful because Itachi will see him with his Sharingan much like Obito saw the Iwagakure shinobi with his Sharingan. [
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] The only thing he has going for him is his hype, but hype doesn't really matter that much considering that Madara already did fight him and had no trouble tracing his Chakura as far as we know nor did the Nidaime Mizukage have much trouble with his Meisaigakure no Jutsu. Not to mention that Mū has to be visible while using his other techniques and Sasori can put up a Satetsu Dome around himself and Itachi with a hole in the front.
Anyways, like you said, his only counter to the Amaterasu is the splitting technique and after he uses that, he won't be capable of using any other technique anymore. [
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] Furthermore, you mention how his sensing may be helpful against Itachi, however, would it really? No. Itachi has the ability to make himself undetectable to a whole sensor unit and he can do this against Mū.
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Genjutsu itself cannot be sensed because Ē's personal Sensor Shī wasn't capable of sensing Sasuke's Genjutsu and got caught in it. Same could be said for Kabuto, seeing as how he never ever sensed Izanami coming. Anyways, let's move onto the threat of Jinton. How exactly do Sasori and Itachi counter this? Well, it's rather easy. Jinton needs time to be prepared while Mū has to stay still and if it interrupted, the Jinton will fail. [
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] A simple Amaterasu or Satetsu spear will suffice seeing as how both are faster than a charge up time of a Jinton. Hmm, you state how it takes time for Amaterasu to be charged up and how Bī could have killed Itachi with a sword back then, however, no. That was Koto Amatsukami Itachi was charging up and Amaterasu does not require this charge up time. [
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Anyways, even if the Jinton is fired up, the Akatsuki duo can still counter it in two other ways:
Evading it with the Satetsu. Madara was capable of escaping the Jinton on foot [
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Repelling it with Yata no Kagami. Itachi can quickly activate the Yata no Kagami which will proceed to expand and make an orb [
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] around both himself and Sasori while changing it's properties to that of Jinton and repel it.
There is also the fact that Itachi will be clouding Mū's vision with crows much like the Konoha shinobi did against Hidan and Kakuzu [
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] so he can't really keep up with them. And fortunately, this won't cloud Sasori's vision because he would still be capable of seeing Mū without much trouble considering that Sasori was capable of seeing all of his opponents even while he was inside Hiruko and black cloth was covering his whole head. [
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] It's unknown how Sasori really sees other things or beings, however, all we know is that he will be capable of seeing clearly even with the crows on the battlefield.
Establishing why Amaterasu beats Samehada:
I do realize that Kisame would be already dead, however, I'll counter this non sense anyways.
I suppose you could argue that Kisame can counter it via Samehada by some chance, however, that is incorrect. You will have to realize that Kisame will be holding Samehada right next to himself which would result in Samehada being hit with the Amaterasu as well and then she won't be capable of doing anything due to extreme pain caused by the heat of Amaterasu. The pain caused by the Amaterasu made Bī drop into the water and trash around like an idiot [
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Nagato, on the other hand, was left completely defenseless and couldn't due anything despite possessing an Edo Tensei body [
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The same thing would happen here. Samehada will trash around like crazy and won't be capable of absorbing the Amaterasu due to being in great pain and then we have the fact that Samehada has a hard time absorbing a low level Katon technique in the first place. [
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] You also have to realize that Kisame himself will drop Samehada which would allow Itachi or Sasuke [Whoever he is fighting] to finish her off quickly, leaving Kisame without a defense.
Furthemore, note how fast Amaterasu burns if the user focuses his sight on the target;
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When the user focuses his sight on the target, Amaterasu burns rather fast considering how fast Itachi burned throught a wall of flesh [
In the end, Samehada will fall to the Amaterasu due to the fact it cannot absorb Katon based techniques, seeing as how it even failed to absorb a low level Katon. I have seen some arguments that the Katon was supposedly absorbed because it was cut in half, however, no. This is pure fanfiction. First of all, let's look at the range of Samehada's absorbing capabilities.
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Samehada needs to come
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. Even from the previous scans of Samehada eating someone's Chakra,
With this, we can easily come conclusion that's Samehada absorbing range is extremely short. And yet take a look at that Katon scan once again. [
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] Not how the part of the Katon in front of Samehada was already 'absorbed' despite Samehada not having such a range.
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If you actually pay attention to that scan, you can easily come to a conclusion that Bī cutted throught and not absorbed the Katon.
Establishing why Itachi's stamina is actually rather good:
You state how Itachi's stamina isn't that good and show me a scan of Sasuke in pain, however, that was the incorrect move. You will have to realize that Sasuke, unlike Itachi, isn't used to that pain and that's exactly why he had so much trouble. His whole head was shaking after he used a single Amaterasu due to the pain [
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] while Itachi didn't even cover his eye. [
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] Furthermore, what Sasuke did was using the Susano'o and Amaterasu [Enton] at the same time in basically the whole fight which drains a lot of Chakura as stated by Obito.
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Now, do remember that is healthy Itachi unlike the Itachi who fought Sasuke and that Itachi stopped taking his drugs in order to die faster and he was living on pure willpower. Zetsu immediately noticed that. [
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] Anyways, even that version of Itachi was capable of setting the half of the forest around the Uchiha hideout on fire. [
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] You can say that the flames spread throught the trees, however, they really did not seeing as how we saw that Amaterasu does not spread that fast on the trees seeing as how only the top of the trees was affected by it. [
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] He used Amaterasu a lot of times; To put out Sasuke's flames, set half of the forest on fire and stretched it out in order to catch Sasuke with it.
Even after that he was capable of using the Susano'o and fight with it until his sickness kicked in and finished him off. More so, what took a lot from Itachi was the fact that Sasuke broke out of Tsukuyomi which made Itachi drop on his knees due to pain [
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] which tells you a lot considering that he didn't even hold his eye after using Amaterasu.
He was also capable of having a Genjutsu fight with Itachi, a long Katon fight and he used several clones. This all tells you that Itachi's stamina is far from crappy as many people state.
To make it simple, my post meant to say that the capability to shunshin blitz someone variies depending on the speed of the shunshin, the opponent's observation capacities and the distance
To make it simple, my post meant to say that the capability to shunshin blitz someone variies depending on the speed of the shunshin, the opponent's observation capacities and the distance