[Katon] Training with the Phantom Sensei

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OOC: It doesn't seem like you've been RPing for long. I don't know exactly how much training you've done past what you said on the application. Looking through the threads you actually do have, you've at least been introduced into the RP a bit. Nevertheless, going based off your suiton training I'm not entirely sure of your competency so before we get into the RP you're going to do some things for me OOC before we get started. I will not explain to you my training method just yet so I won't get into it here.

The first thing you're going to do for me is a small little assignment. Just the defining of some words/phrases in regard to both canon and RP in order to help me assess how Naruto and NB RP literate you are. From there I'll give you some threads to look over with regard to the RP. Ill also be doing my best to fill you with the ins and outs of the system so you can work your way through with more ease. Feel free to ask any questions you have both in regard to the things I teach you regarding Katon as well as the RP as a whole or even any other areas you wish to know about. After we get through the tedious intros of the system and what not, we'll go through actual Katon training. If you are quick on the uptake, you won't have much extraneous bull to go through before you get trained, otherwise, it may take us a while if you are having a difficult time grasping things. Without wasting anymore time, we'll begin.


Define the Following (canonically)


Shinobi

Chakra

Ninshu

Ninjutsu

Taijutsu

Genjutsu

Yin-Yang

Clans

Nature & Shape Manipulation

Define the Following (Regarding RP)

Villages/Social Groups:

Ninja World:

Ninjutsu (Basic vs. Elemental)

Chakra:

Ranks (Ninja Rank & Technique Ran):

Customs (Jutsu, Elements, etc):

Be as informative as you can. This is to see where you stand in your raw knowledge. This doesn't necessarily have to be lengthy, long walls != knowledge. Give enough to show that you understand the concepts I've listed above.
 

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Alright, sounds good. Thanks again by the way. Sorry for the late reply

Canon Terms
Shinobi — They are, as stated by Hashirama, "those who endure". The term is interchangeable with ninja, though I believe it's more proper that shinobi is generally ninja part of a village.

Chakra — It is the combination of physical and spiritual energies inside the bodies of everyone. Focusing the chakra in specific ratios can allow users to perform special techniques (Ninjutsu & Genjutsu) as well as enhance their own power (Taijutsu). Chakra was originally stored in the Chakra Fruit of the Shinju Tree, but once it was eaten by Kaguya, it was passed on over the generations. Everybody's chakra is a unique color. Bijuu chakra is shown to be different from normal chakra. There is also Sage Chakra (Senjutsu) that uses nature energy, energy outside, as opposed to normal energy that uses a user's energy.

Ninshu — The original teaching of the Sage of Six Paths. He taught Ninshu as a means of connecting people together and bringing peace by empowering one another.

Ninjutsu — Misguided teachings and result of Ninshu. It is what happened as a result of people using chakra to power themselves instead of coming together.

It should be noted that Ninshu and Ninjutsu are the same, though the only difference is the "teachings". Both revolve around utlizing chakra within oneself. However, Ninshu is like teamwork, and Ninjutsu is solo.​

Taijutsu — Body Arts. It's the use of your body in fighting. It's kicking, punching, slapping, etc. Chakra can be used to enhance it's capability, like the Hyuga's Gentle Fist, or Hashirama/Tsunade/Sakura's Chakra Enhanced Strength.

Genjutsu — Illusion Arts. It focuses on casting illusions or false realties by disrupting chakra networks. In nearly all cases, Genjutsu is used on the opponent, disrupting their chakra network and effecting their brain waves to create false settings. Though there is Izanagi, which is a genjutsu cast upon the user. To get out of a Genjutsu, you have to realize you are in one first, and then bring yourself back to reality with pain, or disrupt your chakra network.

Yin-Yang — To be honest, I'm not that clear with this one. I know that it's Physical and Spiritual energies, but I never really understood what it did in the series. I know how Yin is predominantly involved in Genjutsu, or how Yamato said Nara clan's jutsu uses Yin or Yang (can't remember) or how Tayuya's ghost thingies have low physical energy. So I'm gonna need some info on this.

Clans — Not sure how to explain this exactly. Senju, Uchiha, Nara, Uzumaki, Hyuga, Saratobi, etc. It's like, a big family. Clan's generally have some form of recognition. For example, Senju were simply recognized as being extremely powerful (I assume they have a Water affinity cause of Hashi and Tobi, and being stronger than Fire, which is the Uchiha's affinity, but I digress). Uchiha are known for their KG, Sharingan, and their Fire affinity. Hyuga are known for their Dojutsu KG, Byakugan, and the strongest Taijutsu style, Gentle Fist. Uzumaki known for their exceptional Fuin ability and longevity and chakra pool. Nara for being smart and their Hiden Ability, Shadow Techniques, Saratobi are known for Fire usage.

Some clans have KG that are a bloodline limit and is genetics, so it can't be taught (unless you're the 3rd Tsuchikage, who can apparently learn Dust :|)
Some clans have HA that are just secret techniques. They can be learned, but they are considered extremely secretive and only the members of the clan know it.

Nature & Shape Manipulation — Two fundamental manipulations of chakra for Ninjutsu. Nature involves making raw chakra into one of the 5 basic elements (Fire, Wind, Lightning, Earth, and Water). You can combine them if you have a KG to perform advance elements. Elemental chakra is stronger than raw chakra. Shape Manipulation can be done on both raw and elemental chakra. It involves focusing the shape, like making a dragon head, or making a ball of fire. Two most common types of shape manipulation involve rotation and compression into a sharp point/spear like head. Highest form of shape manipulation is Rasengan.
RP Terms
Villages/Social Groups — Permission Groups. You go to User CP and Permission Groups and select a group you want in. Villages, you have to generally check up with the Kage of the group. Akatsuki can only have 7 members at a time, or I think 10.

Ninja World — Where the RP actually happens. It's a giant map of the Narutoverse used in the RP. You walk around from landmark to landmark to other villages, to gain hideouts, and such. It's not just fighting here, like in the Battle Arena.

Ninjutsu (Basic vs. Elemental) — Not really sure what you mean here. I know there's 5 Elements that are basic that everyone can learn. Elemental Ninjutsu is stronger than basic Ninjutsu too.

Chakra — Like the PP used in Pokemon lol. Depending on your rank, you have a set amount. Each tech requires chakra (bar some Taijutsu) and you need the necessary amount to perform techs.

Ranks (Ninja Rank & Technique Ran) — Genin, Chunin, Jounin, S-Jounin, S-Class, Sannin, Kage, Sage, Grim
Depending on your post count, you get a specific amount of chakra and health, with the max being Grim with 2,000 health and chakra. Some abilities and bios require you to be a specific rank. Techniques can have Ranks too. E, D, C, B, A, S, and Forbidden. Each higher rank costs more chakra but does more damage and is generally considered "stronger".

Customs (Jutsu, Elements, etc) — Techniques created by the user. Leanred you have to have to reach a specific rank before making a custom. Like if I want to make a custom Lightning tech that I think is A-Rank, I need A-Rank lightning.
There are custom jutsus, fighting styles, summonings, elements, clans, and weapons.
And that's it. Sorry, I really didn't mean to make it so long.
 

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A few snags here and there.

Chakra was spread through Hagoromo not Kaguya. Kaguya was the first to eat the fruit and thus gained the power of chakra. Hagaromo and Hamura were born and were the first beings to be born with chakra. Nobody had chakra until Hagoromo set out to endow everybody with chakra for the sake of ninshu. Ninshu and Ninjutsu aren't the same, yes the teachings are the main difference but ninjutsu is the art of fighting and using chakra for self-gain/personal strength. Ninshu doesn't have such applications, it utilizes chakra for the sake of connecting all beings together. To say it is the same as Ninjutsu just with a different teaching would be like saying the Samurai use ninjutsu simply because they use chakra like ninjutsu. That is not the case.

Yin-Yang specifically are the designations of spiritual and physical energies. With regard to the use within the series; Yin-Yang manipulation, essentially the manipulation of one's spiritual and physical chakras is how we get ninjutsu. As you said above when describing chakra. However individuals who use stronger proportions of one or the other are said to be Yin and/or Yang users like how you brought up the Nara. The shadow manipulation of the Nara is considered a Yin affiliated or Yin Release technique because the proportion of Yin to Yang chakra is greater. Those with expert level mastery of the concepts and powers of their chakra are specifically noted as being Yin-Yang users. Izanagi is a Yin-Yang Release technique though is still called a genjutsu. Yin-Yang, in simple terms the dual energies of your chakra and more advanced, it is entire skill-set of its own.

The Ninja World is filled with drama. Any and everything that happens in there is official therefore the stakes are higher and people are more prone to take things more seriously there. Unlike in the BA where you can set conditions, label something a spar, etc, you don't have such freedoms in the Ninja World and it holds a bit of pressure.

You gave me what I was looking for basically; basic ninjutsu meaning Non-elemental ninjutsu vs. elemental ninjutsu. You gave the distinction and the relationship of strength and weaknesses.

You seem generally competent overall so this stuff should be fine for now, any questions?
 

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No questions so far, if anything pops up in my head though, I'll be sure to ask. Other than that, I think I'm good with what has just been covered.
 

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Only RP I've done so far was in the Training Grounds (and even those were extremely brief). I was gonna ask for a few freeform battles, but I ended up not following through with that. I tried getting into a village (haven't been accepted yet unfortunately to the one I want in). Also, I don't plan on moving into the NW until I get some training, because as of now, I have nothing at my disposal that I can use to defend or attack with.

tl;dr: None :|
 

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Alright, then I'll just do this for insurance:

Reading Material



This is probably the most useful guide for new RPers to learn the basic fundamentals of the Roleplay. The specific thread I want you to read first are the; Battle Ranks, Special Bio and Ability QL, Rei's R&R, Elemental Strengths & Weaknesses, Combinations, and Clashes, Ninja World Rules and look at the map which will be in that Guide under the NW section.

These are more or less the essential things. Battle ranks will give you specific info on your capabilities of learning things and chakra. Special bio rules in the event you want any sort of special bio, battle rules, interactions between ninjutsu for battles and ninja world rules. I'll test you on this stuff later so make sure you take time to read them.
Alright, last order of business; you said you wanted RP type training so I'll ask you which bio you'd rather I use:

Regent of the Mask

-Custom Clan (Binkan)
-X Centuries Old
-cryptic, jovially sadistic, quasi-omnipotent
-Likes: speaking sarcastically, teaching, playing mind games and genjutsu, Isabella Uchiha, Galen Marek, fast learners and overall promising students
-Dislikes: Ignorant people, weak minded people, strong minded people, Isabella Uchiha (sometimes), arrogance, hypocrites, himself because he's both arrogant and hypocritical at times.

Danjou Kouga
-Uchiha
-78 Year old
-perverted, generally relaxed, wise through experience, passive aggressive.
Likes: Boobies (pref above 36C cup US measurements), beautiful young girls, Isabella Uchiha, social engineering to get said young girls, genjutsu, killing Uchiha and Senju, good students.
Dislikes: Other Uchiha (besides his sisters) and Senju, ignorant people, The ninja world, Isabella Uchiha (sometimes).

This chose which one appeals to you more.
Pretty straight forward.
 

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I've read through the Roleplay Content Guide, as well as the "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Role-Playing" beforehand, and I can say I have a good understanding. And I'm ready for future test you may throw at me :)

As for the training, I'd like you to use Regent of the Mask. If there's any reason you'd like to know why I chose him, it's because I believe myself to be a fast learner and strive to show great potential. RP wise, my bio(s) would like to prove their worth to a sensei of such high esteem. Plus the "quasi-omnipotent" remark intrigues me.

Ready to begin at your mark
 

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For reference, the Regent of the Mask is the character in my avatar. The color scheme he normally wears is red and gold, but this is an alternative attire so you can just go by that.
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On the outskirts of the Land of Fire the Regent resided in a secluded area of the forest toward the south surrounded by a thicket of trees. In the center was a wide area, with a several meter radius from the trees. He sat against one of the trees in his conspicuous, regal attire in the shade. He was fully clothed in his attire despite the heat from the summer sun beaming down in the area. He held an old book from the Jedi archives on Tython.

He sighed, "If only I could've picked Bane-sama's brain in person."
 

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Sting and Rogue made their way towards their training spot on the outskirts of the Land of Fire. The two were on their way with one goal in mind, to get stronger. Each of them shared the drive, and would push one another. Sting, with his smug smile and confident look, would speak. "You ready for this? We're gonna breeze right through this, and show everyone who's boss. This is gonna be too easy." Rogue gave off an equally intimidating presence while walking, but was far more reserved and serious. The look on his eyes showed that he had a clear plan, indicating his strong focus. He replied to his brother. "Agreed."

The two would continue on their way for some time before finally arriving at the destination. Moving forward, Sting and Rogue noticed a fully-clothed man sitting against a tree. The brothers would approach the man. Sting would be the first to speak. "Ey, what's a guy like you doing in a place like this?" Rogue, being slightly more intuitive, spoke after. "Considering the area and lack of people, the fact that you're sitting alone, means you're probably waiting for someone. You must be our sensei." Sting wouldn't even hesitate to speak again, believing his brother wholeheartedly. With a grin on his face, he spoke. Is that so? Well alright then, let's get this thing started.
 

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For reference, the Binkan clan is the clan of Force Sensitives as in Jedi and Sith based from Starwars so you'll see some references, such as "Bane-sama" refering to Darth Bane. So pay it no real mind.



The Regent didn't break from his book, at the moment he was more enthralled with insignificant mood setting item in his hand than the actual protagonists of this thread seeking his knowledge. Two twins with the Somo no Kou kekkei genkai; one loud mouth and one and the other dreary, nothing interesting yet. The Regent pointed to center of the open area instructing them to sit. He then banged his hand on the tree he was leaning on causing its very foundation to shake and a few leaves began to fall. With the same hand he used his force grip to hold them in place before they fell to the ground and moved the pile of leaves in front of them.

He kept one of the leaves and held it in his hand. "Take one leaf at a time cup your hands with the leaf between and try to tap into your fire chakra. You will burn a hold in the center of the leaves, making sure not to touch the edges." He closed his one palm, not wishing to move from his book and demonstrated the small circle in the center that was scorched. "Second half you will burn the edges only until there is only a small circle of leaf left, so the opposite." He took another leave and demonstrated. "There should be 50 leaves for each of you. Tell me what you know about fire release; the characteristics of the nature, strengths and weaknesses, potential for combinations, etc."
 

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After the Regent pointed to an opening to stand, both Sting and Rogue turned around. They immediately turned back towards the Regent after feeling the sudden quake of the earth. To their surprise, they noticed that they were "frozen" in place. In awe, Sting and Rogue looked with eyes wide-open. How did you... As if nothing had happened, their sensei continued speaking and continuing. The two followed the instructions as they went, holding back their awe while doing so. The each took 50 leaves and began as they were told. Sting focused on the center of the leaf. Slowly, he'd focus his chakra and cause it heat up. He continued with the nature manipulation until the chakra would be hot enough to start burning the center of the leaf. Opening his hands, he would notice the leaf did have a burn through the center, but also through the top and bottom, splitting the leaf in two. Eh? That's not right. Rogue also experienced the same issue. It seems I need to focus more.

The two would continue burn through the center of the leaf. As they did so, they began to speak. Fire Release, right. Well, it's naturally hot, so most, if not all the techniques results in burning. If not burning, then probably exploding on contact—OW! He said as he burned himself. Techniques could also be controlled with shape manipulation to also give a more tangible form, despit being flames. Also, there are variations in Fire Release, with techniques that could be as obvious as flames, to more specialized forms, like ash and flammable ga—ssss! Sting would then briefly shake his hand reflexively to deal with the small burn. He gave an angry groan, obviously from his lack of perfecting the chakra control perfectly. And flammable gases.

Now staring intently at his closed hands, Sting put his focus on the leaf while speaking. Like all elemental releases, — As he spoke, he opened his hands and smiled — Fire Release techniques are stronger than raw chakra. He would then showcase to his brother how he had successfully burned a hole in the center of the leaf. Rogue gave a small grin of his own, revealing that he too had completed the task. As such, they continued performing the same task, showcasing their understanding in it. They then moved on to the second step. As they did so, Rogue would speak. It's also important to note the elemental strengths and weaknesses. As he spoke, he realized how he was getting the feel of the fire chakra control much better. Fire is naturally strong against Wind, but weak to Water.

Looking down at his hand, he saw that he did burn the edges of the leaf, but a perfect circle did not form. Rogue looked to Sting, only to see him smirking at the fact that he did burn it into a perfect circle. Fire is also used in the Elemental Kekkei Genkei releases, Scorch, Lava, and Boil and the rare Kekkei Tota, Dust. By the time he finished saying that to his sensei, he looked over to his brother, only to see that his brother rogue had perfectly completed the next step in the short time it took him to say that.

Looking to their sensei, Sting and Rogue smiled. They each took a leaf and cupped it in their hands. They focused their Fire chakra into the leaf and then opened their hands and revealed it to their sensei. In Sting's hand, the leaf had a perfectly burned hole in the center. In Rogue's hand, the leaf had been burned around the edges to form a perfect circle.
 

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The Regent turned the page of his book "What is the benefit to using Fire release right after you've used a lightning release technique? And tell me what element would best follow a fire release technique?"
 

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Slightly concerned that their sensei didn't even react to their performance, Sting and Rogue realized they needed to work harder than they first imagined. With this in mind, they continued with their training.

The benefit of doing that would be that the opponent would most likely use a Wind technique to counter the Lightning technique. Because of that, if when the Wind technique overcomes the Lightning technique, the Fire technique would then overcome the weakened Wind technique. Said Sting.

Also, the best element to follow up a Fire technique would be a Wind technique. Wind techniques, being faster than Fire techniques, would catch up with the Fire technique and empowering it. Said Rogue.
 

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"And if they use water against your fire technique then what? Will that wind, which only makes a bigger fire necessarily give enough juice for that fire to be effective in beating or at least stalemating that water technique?" The Regent's words were directed at the second answer given, implying a flaw in their logic...
 

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After hearing their Sensei, Rogue spoke. Perhaps we were thinking too straightforward.

We do know if they were to use Water against our stronger fire, it'd only be able to cancel out one another, not actually go through it. Said Sting.

Which means, it'd be more effective to use something that would counter what the opponent's move. It's just like chess, we need to be thinking steps ahead of the opponent. If we use Fire, they use Water. So, we'd have to overpower the water with Earth. So the best technique would be to use Earth afterwards. The Earth would give a much more powerful tangible impact that would overpower the water. Additionally, the heat could be enough to melt the earth into molten lava. Even if the water were to douse the heat, it would only cool the lava and make it solid molten black rock. The attack would still move forward though, hitting the opponent. Said Rogue.

Sting simply looked in awe. Uhh, Yea. Exactly.
 

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"Why not just stick with the previous logic you used to determine why fire comes after lightning in the first place? You thought my two questions required different logic but they were one in the same. Don't over think things, you barely have time to think much in an actual fight..."

"Now then, suppose your opponent uses a lightning fire combination like in the previous example, what would be an effective counter? Likewise, would be effective against a fire earth combination?"
 

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After hearing the question, Sting spoke up. I got this! If they were gonna use a Lightning/Fire Combo, then I'd use a Water technique. The Water would naturally be stronger than the Fire. Also, the Lightning would only electrocute the Water, making it even more dangerous for the opponent when the water hits them. Sting said proudly.

Rogue would then continue. With that thinking in mind, if the opponent were to use a Fire/Earth Combo, I would use a Lightning technique. The Lightning would naturally be stronger than the Earth, and the Lightning would simply pass through the Fire technique in most cases, considering the fire may not have a "tangible" form.
 

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"So in other words you're saying lightning, regardless of the concentration, is still ultimately to intangible and will always make the water attack stronger; even in the cases where the lightning can shatter or pierce through solid matter? I suppose you'd also use a streamed water technique that is directly connected to you as well since you won't get electrocuted either." The Regent said sarcastically.


"Likewise, you presume fire is equally too intangible to fend off against a lightning attack despite both being plasma based? Well, I could be wrong, tell you what if you happen to know any water and/or lightning techniques I'd be happy to allow you to test your theory practically..."
 
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