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"Hm alright, so considering they are techniques that don't necessarily regenerate, you just have to destroy them once and once alone. How would you do that? I mean you have a short period of time before falling back to the water, what kind of technique would you use to destroy it? Or rather, what technique do you think can destroy it?"
 

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"Essentially, yes that would work if they were of the same rank and element and they targeted the Sharks.. Well, i don't want a counter like that... I'd want a counter that is more creative, for example, I'd use a large S-rank wall of flames to be sent out downwards as I am making my descend. This would destroy the sharks completely while creating a thick mist - I myself am a sensor therefore, I can notice sneak attacks easier while my movements are concealed, which would make the ideal battlefield, for me at least.

I'd like a different counter, please. Something that doesn't consist of Fire."

(You have B-rank earth, and A-rank wind. I'm sure you can think of something!)
 

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"Alright, let's move on. Both those techniques would work in this situation, but it depends on how it is worded. For example, if you're too close to the surface, you would be affected by the pressure damage technique as well... so I advise against using it when you're like 4 meters from the water. The first technique would work if the sharks are bunched up together, since it is only a single wave of wind."

This technique relies heavily on the concept of Shape Manipulation."
Tobirama teleports the student and himself to a new lake, as the old one was all emptied out from the previous techniques. "Alright, gather a massive amount of water chakra and perform nature transformation on your normal chakra to change the properties of it into the properties of water. Channel the chakra on the water, and perform shape manipulation to shape it into a giant beast-like creature. The creature itself is undefined, but it just looks like a large blob of water resembling a beast. This technique is simple. Keep in mind, you'd need constant chakra manipulation, similar to Gushing water imprisonment. So, if you want to perform another technique, like a lightning technique and want to have the giant beast moving at the same time, you'd need to have Yin/Yang. Like most water techniques, this giant beast relies on the brute force it exerts when making contact with a target. Because of the extremely large amount of water shaped into a beast, having it crashed to a tiny being would certainly cause extensive damage. It's size and its power is very high, enough to push back a Jinchuuriki in its full form. It can also be used to tank varieties of techniques for you, making it a versatile technique. Anyways, create the best from that large water source to the side and create the large beast and have it rise up to push back the 8Tails in its full beast form. Afterwards, give me advantages, disadvantages, and how you would defend against this technique." Tobirama instructed, as he performs several hand seal to summon the eight tail octopus. (At least i think he's an octopus o-o)

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(Suiton: Kyojin Nami Shougeki) – Water Release: Giant Wave Crash
Rank: A
Type: Offensive , Deffence
Range: Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user gathers a large amount of water that can then be used to crash into the opponent. It is strong enough to push back Killer bee in Eight tales form.
Note: Requires a water source
 

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Waaiz focuses on his chakra and applies nature transformation to it and turns it in to Suiton chajra and then he channels a large amount of the suiton chakra in to the water source on which he was standing and now he was able to control a large amount of Water source then he applies shape manipulation to the chakra and make it rise up in to a huge blob shaped beast made of water then he aims at the huge eight tailed octopus that Tobirama summoned before but he kept on applying shape manipulation to make it stay as it is, then Waaiz focuses on his chakra and make it move forward towards the Octopus as the water blob hit the giant heavy Octopus it got pushed back...
Advantages
It is an easy-to-use technique because it doesn't requires any hand seals. It is extremely powerful and if our opponent doesn't have a perfect defense then it is really hard to get away from the technique.
Disadvantages
It requires a water source and the technique is really vulnerable to Raiton because we are in the Blob beast (according to the Pic you provide) and it will kill us in an instant. It is a techniques based on shape manipulation means we cant perform any other technique while we are in this.
Defense
I'll use (Katon: Gōen no Jutsu) - Fire Release: Great Flame Technique to extinguish the water beast.
 

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"Nice work. I suppose your counter would work, but keep in mind, due to its massive size, it would take a while to actually successfully extinguish the water, all of it... So your counter is not one i'd call ideal. Likewise, because of the large amount of water needed for the technique, and despite not needing any hand seals, forming it into its shape wouldn't be as fast as other techniques, so keep that in mind too."

Tobirama points at a set of hand seal and performs it himself as an example. "Okay. So perform the Tiger, Snake, Rat, Snake, and Tiger hand seal as you gather a large amount of chakra in your mouth/lungs. Perform nature transformation on the chakra to change the nature of it into the properties of water with the use of nature transformation. Once that is done, spew out the water in the form of a torrent of water and manipulate it so when it is released, it would encircle around you, defending you from all sides while allowing you to see. It is blown out to surround you, so you'd be able to defend from multiple attacks coming from different directions. The amount of water and how long the defense stands depends on how much chakra you invest in it, allowing you to defend against large and small scaled techniques. Also, you can use this technique from an already-present water source, so it wouldn't have to be a stream-based techniques." Tobirama performs a hand seal and creates two clones. One would stand ten meters to your left, and the other would stand ten meters to the right. Both would release a large dragon head, B-rank in strength. "Use this technique to defend from both the fire heads at the same time. Afterwards, give me the difference between using it from a water source, or releasing it from your mouth, and what kinds of techniques you'd defend with this particular technique! If you have any questions, feel free to ask."

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(Suiton: Suijinheki) - Water Style: Water Encampment Wall
Rank: A
Type: Defence/Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This defensive jutsu creates a wall of water around the user. The user will use the following hand seals to activate the technique Tiger → Snake → Rat → Snake → Tiger. Enemy attacks are completely intercepted by a fence of water blown out from the mouth, and is raised from below with tremendous might. The water is blown out in the form of a circle around the user, and it makes for a defence without openings. It is also possible for the user to control the amount of water and duration at will. Furthermore, because the field of vision is maintained even while defending one can easily go on to the next move, which is a great advantage. The wall can also be formed from a pre-existing water source.
 

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I wanna thank you Edward , you made me understand how good and fun is RPing with details and all. Thank you my Great Lord Sensei!

Waaiz sees the two Clones sending two dragons made of fire towards him. So, He quickly performs the hand seals Tiger → Snake → Rat → Snake → Tiger while focusing and applying nature transformation to his chakra an turning it in to Suiton chakra then Waaiz sends a large amount of Suiton chakra to his mouth then Waaiz spews that chakra in form of actual water torrent as released the torrent of water he applies shape manipulation to the water and make it encircle it around himself then the two dragons came in contact of the water, it gets steamed away coz the water was become even to the dragons....
Differences
The difference is that performing it with an already presented water source and spewing the water from our mouth is that we can perform it quickly with a presented water source than spewing the water from our mouth. < Thats the only one I think.
Defendable Techniques
Well I think I'll use it against all the stream based fire technique.
 
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"Hm, sure I guess. Though i was looking for an answer along the lines of 'defending a stream based fire technique with a stream based water technique since i can keep it up as long as the enemy does', but nevertheless, I guess you're correct." Tobirama replied.

"Moving on. A technique that would be pretty hard to execute." Tobirama creates a clone that looks like a around you. "Hm, okay. So this technique is pretty simple. When a target is standing on a water source, like a lake, ocean, etc. Gather chakra and perform nature transformation to change the nature of it into the properties of water. Once you've done that, send the chakra to the water the target is standing on and use the water chakra to manipulate the water and have it suddenly explode. The explosion should be large enough and have enough force to push the target mid-air several meters. Channel chakra on the soles of your feet and jump up; the chakra should allow you to jump up higher than the height you normally could. Also channel chakra on either of your arms while performing nature transformation to change the nature of it into the properties of water. As you are jumping, release the water chakra from your arms and generate a large whirlpool around your arm, shaping it and having it spin around. Once you're above the enemy who is mid-air, attack them with the whirlpool as if you were punching them with a fist, which should create a large watery explosion. The power behind it relies on its force and its somewhat pointed tip, and considering its density and the sharp tip of the whirlpool and its spinning motion, it should have the power to pierce through the enemies body. Perform it on that clone. Give me advantages and disadvantages, and how you would use this in battle." The shadow clone would move 5 meters from the student, standing on the lake.

(Suiton: Kōka Suijin) - Water Release: Hard Whirlpool Water Blade
Rank: A
Type: Attack
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: The user makes the water under the enemy explode, launching them into the air. Then the user jumps above the enemy and creates a large whirlpool around his arm, striking the enemy with it and creating a large water explosion.
Note: Water source required.
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Waaiz sees the clone standing 5 metres away to him on the lake then Waaiz starts to build up his chakra then he focus on it and applies nature transformation and turns it in to Suiton chakra then he channels half of the chakra in to the lake underneath the Clone then Waaiz applies shape manipulation to that chakra and cause it explode the explosion was powerful enough to make the clone send in to the mid air as soon as the clone launched up Waaiz focuses his chakra on to his feet and then jump with full speed as he jumped up he channeled his Suiton on to his right arm and Waaiz releases the chakra and applies shape manipulation to it and turns it in to a spinning whirlpool then as he reach on top of the clone Waaiz moves his right arm forward extending it fully and releases the spinning whirlpool at the clone the whirlpool got a pointed end that pierce through the clone and poofs him away.
Advantages
This technique is pretty powerful and an easy-to-use/perform technique because it doesn't requires any hand seals, all we gotta do is shape manipulation, the technique does two work, explosion and piercing thats one of the good quality of the technique.
Disadvantages
The main disadvantage of this technique is that it requires a water source because if aint got a water source it won't let us do the first part that is explosion, and It is short ranged coz if we are too close the enemy we may also get caught in the explosion and a lil' mistake in short leads to death.
How'd I use
I'll use it when I am fight near a water because it requires a water source but that would be difficult too to take our opponent on the water , different scenarios can be happen like the enemy uses the same technique against me and many more. So, I wont use it much Sensei.
 

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"Great great, just two corrections. The technique, despite being a blast of water, does not cause harm to the opponent, at least not direct harm. It is basically used to blast the enemy up abruptly, and the second point is the opponent has to be on a water source; you can't have water from a water source travel to the area and gather around there."

"And, let's continue. For this next one, perform three hand seals; Ram, Horse, and Bird." Tobirama performs the required hand seals as an example and then, orders Waaiz to stand on the lake nearby. "While performing the hand seals, gather chakra and perform nature transformation to change the nature of your chakra into the properties of water. Once you do that, channel the water chakra to the water source your standing on, which would allow you to manipulate the water source. Have the water rise up around you to create a spinning vortex/tornado with the use of shape manipulation of course. This spinning tornado allows you to defend against certain techniques in accordance with elemental strengths and weaknesses. With further chakra manipulation, you can manipulate the tornado and have it travel towards the enemy in the form of a water vortex. The power behind it lies within its brute force it exerts upon physical contact, enough to knock out enemies unconscious." Tobirama creates several water clones around the lake to surround the student, and orders them to throw a single kunai. "Create the tornado around you to defend against the kunai, and afterwards, have it attack the clones which should have enough power to knock them out. Once you're done, give me advantages, disadvantages, and how you would use this in battle offensively. And lastly, tell me what kind of techniques you'd defend against using this technique."

(Suiton: Mizu no Tatsumaki) - Water Release: Tornado of Water
Rank: A
Type: Attack/Defence/Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: After performing the Ram → Horse → Bird the user is able to create a technique that utilizes water to create a spinning water vortex around the user. The water vortex acts both as a barrier and an attack mechanism. The power of the vortex is enough to knock an opponent unconscious.
Note: Requires a nearby water source
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Waaiz sees the kunais coming towards him so he quickly starts to performing the hand seals Ram → Horse → Bird while focusing and applying nature transformation to his chakra and turning it in to Suiton chakra then Waaiz channels a large amount of that chakra in to the Water source where he was standing and as the chakra went in to it Waaiz was able to manipulate the water source easily then Waaiz applies shape manipulation to it and makes a part of the water source rise up and then he turns it in to a spinning tornado then he makes it move forward by focusing on the water chakra as the kunais came in contact the deflect here and there because of the spinning motion of the vortex and keep moving forward towards the clones and as it came in contact with the clone and have them knocked out and poofs away...
Advantages
This a quite powerful technique that can be used to defend against many fire techs, we can use this to surround us to defend from the multiple dragon head technique that is a fire one plus the multiple mud ball technique and can also defend us against projectiles.
Disadvantages
This technique requires a water source, due to the size of the technique it blocks our vision and dont let us see our opponents' moves and all.
Offensive Usage
Well, actually I cant think of an offensiveuse of this technique though if we can create it behind our opponent that might give us an upper hand in the battle that because our opponent needs to pay attention in both direction , front and behind.
Defendable Techs
Stream based fire techs and projectile, stream based coz defending a stream based fire technique with a stream based water technique since i can keep it up as long as the enemy does.
 

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"Hm, it's not really a stream based technique, but at the same time, it's not a projectile so I see where you're coming from. Don't forget that you are inside the vortex, so yea, keep that in mind. It may be dangerous to use since the enemy can use a lightning technique or something."

"Alright, this technique is pretty awesome. This requires a vast amount of chakra reserves, but i think you'd be able to pull it off. Perform the ram hand seal while gathering chakra and performing nature transformation to change the nature of your chakra into the properties of water. Release the water chakra from your mouth in the form of water, and spew out large quantities of water in a short period of time. This is a much larger-scaled technique than its predecessor, so you'd be spewing out an extremely large amount of water. All the water released at once would be distributed around the area you are at evenly, depending on the terrain of course. Since its just a plain field here, the water should just flow out from your mouth and spread out around the terrain. The water you spew out would create large and powerful waves, powerful enough to easily crush a normal shinobi. Once you've created an adequate amount of water, perform shape manipulation with your water chakra to shape it into an orb of water, a very large one that would envelope the enemy, and in time, they would suffocate. This could be a double-edged sword; if you stay at the orb with the enemy, you'd also suffocate unless you have an ability that allows you to breath underwater. Perform it to trap my 20 meter clone in water, and give me how you would defend against it and combinations with it."
Tobirama says, as he summons a large clone of himself.
(Suiton: Dai Bakusui Shōha) - Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave
Rank: A
Type: Offensive,Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: This technique is a stronger version of exploding water colliding wave technique. The user will first perform the ram hand seal and then spits out a large amount of water that covers an entire area, with massive waves that can crush the opponent. The user then forms the water into a giant orb, instead of releasing like weaker version of the technique.
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Waaiz forms a ram hand seals while focusing and applying nature transformation to his chakra and turns it in to Suiton chakra and then he sends a large amount of Suiton chakra to his mouth and then he starts to spew water from his mouth at a great speed that makes him rise up and spread wide covering the 20 metre clone then Waaiz applies shape manipulation to it and shape the water he spewed in to an orb that fully covers The 20m Clone then the clone starts to suffocate and poofs away...
Combinations
I seriously dont know v.v but something with lightning that can shock our opponent to death coz our opponent is inside the orb and the water we spewed can only be used as a water source for future techs.
Counter
I am thinking of Turning Myself in to Water? Or I could use (Katon: Gōka Messhitsu) - Fire Release: Great Fire Destruction to steam the water away because it is a massive type fire tech..
 

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"Yeah, with such a large scaled, not-self-sustaining technique, combinations are hard. But, yes, lightning would be a good way to follow up in any situation where the enemy is wet. And those defenses aren't as ideal, because they leave you vulnerable so I highly suggest one that is fairly popular: using Great Moving earth core to rise yourself up above normal level to avoid it, or lower the ground below the enemy to have the water and themselves drop down in the pit and of course, ultimately drown."

Tobirama instructs the student to force the orb of water to loose its shape, returning to a large water source we could use for the rest of the training. "Alright. This next technique is fairly simple and the concept of it should be familiar to you. Perform four hand seals: Dog, Horse, Monkey, and Ram." Tobirama said, as he performed the hand seals himself to act as an example. "As you're performing these hand seals, take a large amount of chakra and perform nature transformation to change the nature of it into the properties of water. Once you've done that, send the newly modified chakra into the large water source you created with your previous technique. With the concept of shape manipulation, i want you to shape out a large beast from the water source that resembles a giant wolf-like beast. If you want it to attack, manipulate the chakra in the beast to release powerful streams of water from the beasts' mouth, with the power of B-rank. Another thing is, you can manipulate it to sweep the area with its claws, like sway its hand from one direction to another and let out a torrent of water to wash away the enemies." Tobirama performs several hand seals and summons a large creature in the lake. "Create the wolf-like beast and attack my summoning with the attacks the beast is capable of, like washing the summoning away, releasing torrents of water at it, or have it ram its entire body to attack the summon which would deal damage through brute force. Once you're done, give me advantages, disadvantages, and how you would use this in battle offensively. Also, after three turns, it will disperse back into water, if it's not destroyed by then."

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(Suiton: Mizu Shishi) - Water Release: Water Beast
Rank: A
Type: Offensive, Supplementary
Range: Short - Long
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: The user after performing the Dog → Horse → Monkey → Ram and by manipulating a pre-existing water source and transforms it into a giant wolf-like beast. The beast can launch powerful streams of water from its mouth equivilant to B rank, or sweep the area with its claws to let a powerful torrent of water to wash away the enemies.
Note: The Water Beast remains active for three turns
 

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Waaiz performs the hand seals Dog → Horse → Monkey → Ram and applies nature transformation to his chakra and turns it in to Suiton chakra then Waaiz channels that chakra in to the water source that was created by the previous technique , as he channeled his chakra in to the water source he was now able to manipulate the water source then Waaiz applies shape manipulation to that water source and then Waaiz turns that water source in to a giant wolf-like beast then Waaiz aims at Tobirama's summoning and manipulates his water chakra and make the beast release a powerful torrent from his mouth that pushes the summoning then Waaiz commands that wolf to move towards the summoning by focusing on his chakra then as the beast came close to the summoning Waaiz orders him to ram in to the summoning and as the wolf did that summoning got poofed away.
Advantages
It is very useful jutsu against summoning and doesn't requires many hand seals, pretty neat technique, the beast can be used in all ranges thats a very good advantage.
Disadvantages
It requires a water source , it is a disadvantage because not every terrain has a water source, It only stays upto three turns in battle field during the battle, it is a disadvantage because in my opinion if this could last for more time would be a lot more effective.
Offensive Usage
I would like to use offensive against my opponents' summoning or I would simply use it to toy with my opponent by creating it and releasing water torrents. Is releasing a torrent cost a move?
 

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"And, we shall move on to the last A-ranks! By the way, yes, it does count as a move, releasing the torrent at least." Tobirama creates a shadow clone and instructs it to walk, ten meters from where the student stood, with both still on the water source. "This technique is simple and powerful, because of how easily performed it is and its speed in performance. I want you to gather a fairly large amount of your chakra and perform nature transformation to change the nature of your chakra into the properties of water. Once you've performed nature transformation, channel it through the water and underneath the enemy, and perform shape manipulation to have it rise up in a spiraling motion, to create a powerful vortex of water around them. You do this by swinging your arm to either direction, which would activate the water to be shaped into a vortex and rise up quickly, creating a tornado that would pick them up and launch them in the air, meters and meters high. Once they've been pushed upwards, dispel it with another hand gesture so the tornado would simply disperse to normal water. Perform it on my clone to launch him upwards, high above the ground. The power of this relies on the enemy being trashed around and spun within the vortex, which would cause damage but i highly doubt it would kill a person unless they're already in a vulnerable state. Once you've performed it, tell me how you would defend against it, as well as a combination used along with it.." Tobirama instructed.

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Suiton: Arekuruu Hayase ) - Water Release: Raging Rapids
Rank: A
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 30
Damage points: 60
Description: Using their skills with Water Release, the user generates a powerful vortex of water around their enemy with a swing of their arm that sends them flying upwards and then dispels it with another hand gesture. (Requires a water source).
Note: Tobirama and Mei terumi can perform this without a water source.
 
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