[CJ] Trading with Pervy
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I possess a similar technique called Hand of the Shinigami which I'll be using for reference. Any really technical stuff I'll ask other mods just in case so there is no actual abuse on my end of the technique. I bolded areas of the jutsu where I have questions.
(Genjutsu - Svengali) - Svengali illusion
First question, is the only way to release the genjutsu by destroying the physical doll the user has created or could somebody use immense pain or some alternative method to release this jutsu?
Second question @First Bold: What sort of commands do you mean? Can the doll move around on it's own if the user commands it?
Third question @Second Bold: By take over actions, does this mean that, once a certain part of the body has been simulated/transformed into the likeness of the doll, can you, as the user manipulate your victim by manipulating Svengalii's action and have a sort of marrionette affect? For example; the limbs are turned into the likness of the doll, if you make the doll dance, will the victim dance too?
Fourth Question @Third Bold and My First question: If the answer to the first question is "yes, you have to destroy the doll to release the genjutsu" then what happens if the victim is already experiencing the illusion of a specific body part turning into a doll such as the arms and legs. If they are somehow able to fight back and destroy the doll, including it's arms and legs, does the pain factor still come into affect? Will they feel the same type of pain in their limbs by destroying the doll or will destroying the doll neutralize any sort of effect it may have on the user?
Edit: 5th Question, this refers to the range of the genjutsu. In order for this genjutsu to be cast, one must be within Short range. If the user or opponent exists short range after the fact that the genjutsu has been successfully enacted will the jutsu remain neutral or does the condition need to be met only for the initial casting of the jutsu? So if I cast it within short range but we move out of range further along in the battle, will my opponent still be affected by the genjutsu?
(Genjutsu - Svengali) - Svengali illusion
Type: Attack
Rank: Forbidden
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user will perform 3 needed hand seals to summon a special type of mechanical doll to the feild. This is a special mechanical doll made entirely of chakra metal. When its summoned it is infused with the users chakra from that moment. Svengali is a special mechanical doll made of chakra metal that responds to the sound of the users voice comands, but not just any comands. From the moment this doll is summoned it begins to mess with the opponents head. After being on the feild for one turn the doll will put a kind of transe upon the opponent. This transe make the opponent become like the doll turn by turn. See below for details.
After being on the feild for 2 turns, the opponents arm will go solid like the dolls metal limbs, making them unable to move it.
After being on the feild for 3 turns, the opponents other arm will go stiff like the dolls other arm.
After being on the feild for 4 turns, The users legs will go stiff, unable to move them or feel any sensation in them.
After svengali has been on the feild for 5 turns, the opponents whole body will be stiff like svengali's and they will not be able to move or feel anything.
When svengali has control of all the opponents limbs they are unable to battle.
Due to this abilitily they are unable to move any part of their hands and can't feel any pain in their limbs. It is almost as though someone elses limbs are attached to their body that they cant feel or move. Not only does Svengali take over the opponents actions through hypnosis, he also becomes on with the target, so if svengali is poked, the opponent possesed by him will feel it too. The same effect applies in a painful way. If svengali has taken effect on of of the opponents arm, and the same arm on svengali is stabbed, the opponent will cry out in pain as though their own arm was stabbed, though they would still be unable to move it.
Note: No S rank or above while controlling Svengali
Note: No nin/gen jutsu can be used at the same time as svengali
Note: No Genjutsu for the rest of the match after use.
Note: While the user is controlling svengali, he is only able to peform 2 jutsu per turn due to concerntrating on svengalis use.
Rank: Forbidden
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 40
Damage Points: N/a
Description: The user will perform 3 needed hand seals to summon a special type of mechanical doll to the feild. This is a special mechanical doll made entirely of chakra metal. When its summoned it is infused with the users chakra from that moment. Svengali is a special mechanical doll made of chakra metal that responds to the sound of the users voice comands, but not just any comands. From the moment this doll is summoned it begins to mess with the opponents head. After being on the feild for one turn the doll will put a kind of transe upon the opponent. This transe make the opponent become like the doll turn by turn. See below for details.
After being on the feild for 2 turns, the opponents arm will go solid like the dolls metal limbs, making them unable to move it.
After being on the feild for 3 turns, the opponents other arm will go stiff like the dolls other arm.
After being on the feild for 4 turns, The users legs will go stiff, unable to move them or feel any sensation in them.
After svengali has been on the feild for 5 turns, the opponents whole body will be stiff like svengali's and they will not be able to move or feel anything.
When svengali has control of all the opponents limbs they are unable to battle.
Due to this abilitily they are unable to move any part of their hands and can't feel any pain in their limbs. It is almost as though someone elses limbs are attached to their body that they cant feel or move. Not only does Svengali take over the opponents actions through hypnosis, he also becomes on with the target, so if svengali is poked, the opponent possesed by him will feel it too. The same effect applies in a painful way. If svengali has taken effect on of of the opponents arm, and the same arm on svengali is stabbed, the opponent will cry out in pain as though their own arm was stabbed, though they would still be unable to move it.
Note: No S rank or above while controlling Svengali
Note: No nin/gen jutsu can be used at the same time as svengali
Note: No Genjutsu for the rest of the match after use.
Note: While the user is controlling svengali, he is only able to peform 2 jutsu per turn due to concerntrating on svengalis use.
First question, is the only way to release the genjutsu by destroying the physical doll the user has created or could somebody use immense pain or some alternative method to release this jutsu?
Second question @First Bold: What sort of commands do you mean? Can the doll move around on it's own if the user commands it?
Third question @Second Bold: By take over actions, does this mean that, once a certain part of the body has been simulated/transformed into the likeness of the doll, can you, as the user manipulate your victim by manipulating Svengalii's action and have a sort of marrionette affect? For example; the limbs are turned into the likness of the doll, if you make the doll dance, will the victim dance too?
Fourth Question @Third Bold and My First question: If the answer to the first question is "yes, you have to destroy the doll to release the genjutsu" then what happens if the victim is already experiencing the illusion of a specific body part turning into a doll such as the arms and legs. If they are somehow able to fight back and destroy the doll, including it's arms and legs, does the pain factor still come into affect? Will they feel the same type of pain in their limbs by destroying the doll or will destroying the doll neutralize any sort of effect it may have on the user?
Edit: 5th Question, this refers to the range of the genjutsu. In order for this genjutsu to be cast, one must be within Short range. If the user or opponent exists short range after the fact that the genjutsu has been successfully enacted will the jutsu remain neutral or does the condition need to be met only for the initial casting of the jutsu? So if I cast it within short range but we move out of range further along in the battle, will my opponent still be affected by the genjutsu?
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You can break the gen with normal methods but you'd have rp cut off an arm or some shit for such a strong gen but as long as the doll exists the gen will start over the next turn. They can destroy the doll but its f ranked so that's pretty hard. BTW if you summon it only your real body can't use above a ranked but your clones can.
Yes all functions of the doll apply to the person effected but only for the limbs you control so if its been two turns and you control their arm. If you bend svengalis a back there's would bend back too. Sent when it comes to the destroying of the doll the pain would transfer to the parts of the opponent being controlled. So to destroy a f rank, that's a hell of a lot of power and pain which would be transfered and send the into shock
As for voice commands the doll react s to what you tell it to do so could tell it to break uta arm in the second turn and then it would and also break the opponents ATM
This is the ultimate vudoo gen
Yes all functions of the doll apply to the person effected but only for the limbs you control so if its been two turns and you control their arm. If you bend svengalis a back there's would bend back too. Sent when it comes to the destroying of the doll the pain would transfer to the parts of the opponent being controlled. So to destroy a f rank, that's a hell of a lot of power and pain which would be transfered and send the into shock
As for voice commands the doll react s to what you tell it to do so could tell it to break uta arm in the second turn and then it would and also break the opponents ATM
This is the ultimate vudoo gen
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So in a sense, if somebody is to use some sort of method to break out of the illusion, the entire process would start over? Lets say I have a method that allows me to break out of Forbidden Ranked Genjutsu like this one. You've had Svengali out for about 3 turns and I use my genjutsu break then. So where my arms and legs would be paralyzed if I release from the affects all together, even if the genjutsu is re-cast because the doll is still on the field, it would start again from turn one?
It says after 5 turns the entire body is paralyzed and is reflecting the doll's image, does that mean you can inflict illusionary injury on any part of the body at that point and it will be translated to the victim? Like I could choke the doll and it would cause simulated suffocation to the victim right?
If you move the doll out of the field of play for example; transporting the doll to another dimension using space time ninjutsu or a sealing jutsu, would that end the jutsu as well?
It says after 5 turns the entire body is paralyzed and is reflecting the doll's image, does that mean you can inflict illusionary injury on any part of the body at that point and it will be translated to the victim? Like I could choke the doll and it would cause simulated suffocation to the victim right?
If you move the doll out of the field of play for example; transporting the doll to another dimension using space time ninjutsu or a sealing jutsu, would that end the jutsu as well?
Yes it would start over
By the fifth turn yes its pretty much game over you have a rag doll do as you wish with
The jutau says" after being on the field" so if its taken to another dimetion (eg
***is jitsu) the effect won't progress but the opponent will still be effected up to the stage they were at before the doll was removed from the field. So two turns in, the doll controls the opponents arm but then the doll is warped with Tobi's jitsu. The further effects don't happen but unless they break the original f ranked gen they can't use that arm again
By the fifth turn yes its pretty much game over you have a rag doll do as you wish with
The jutau says" after being on the field" so if its taken to another dimetion (eg
***is jitsu) the effect won't progress but the opponent will still be effected up to the stage they were at before the doll was removed from the field. So two turns in, the doll controls the opponents arm but then the doll is warped with Tobi's jitsu. The further effects don't happen but unless they break the original f ranked gen they can't use that arm again
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So essentially, to rid yourself of the illusion you need to a) get rid of the doll (preferably in a way that doesn't inflict pain that would backlash on you) and b) release the actual F-ranked illusion itself so that everything is reset. You could reverse the order in order to give you time and mobility to freely get rid of the doll as well.
This genjutsu is very much a shelf technique, last resorts as if anybody who likes to dabble with genjutsu would be reluctant to use this technique unless it was a sure fire thing. I could very well expect somebody like you to almost never use this technique, especially when you have MS grade jutsu at your disposal. Though there is a certain pleasure to be had by making somebody with those very capabilities use this and then being able to safely look them in the eyes again without the fear of the actual one hit KO.
It can be very useful if you want to use impuew world or have an pro bio or that dark release guy. I think I used this once in the five years I had it and that was on yard so I could make *** Roy's out of carbon and abuse him hahaha(I was drunk)