[Discussion] Toushiro can still be redeemed, Renji too..

[TenzaZangetsu]

Only thing that can save him is plot

Plot will indeed save him, but, will it be with honour??

 

[TenzaZangetsu]

He left her in a giant block of ice. If he wanted her dead he would of finished her off. And he didnt get tossed around by her he matched her perfectly. He even held back on his final move not to kill other shinigami. But whatever clearly we seen the fight totally differently. As for him dying next week I think he'll be fine Urahara said he has a way to get the captains back their bankai's

Finished her off how? When Wonderweiss' scream broke the ice she wasn't shattered to pieces, how would Toushiro finish her off? and yes, he did get tossed around, after she activated that yellow stuff in the hole in her sword and used 'orla azul' and when she went resurrection it became worse, he was barely staying alive! If bankai Ichigo couldn't do jack sh*t to an unressurected Grimmjow(#6 espada) what makes you think Toushiro could beat Halibel(#3 espada) at full power??