totsuka and yata vs gouudama (black orbs)

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Which has better defensive priorities the black orbs or yata?
And can black orbs block Totsuka blade like it can block ninjutsu?
 

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Well if Yata is resist to nature dmg well I think it's Yata>Black orbs
 

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Which has better defensive priorities the black orbs or yata?
And can black orbs block Totsuka blade like it can block ninjutsu?

Well Totsuka blade is imbued with a sealing enchantment and sealing jutsus are Ninjutsus so I don't see it affecting the TSB shield, TSB is stronger than Jinton so the TSB used offensively should cut through the Totsuka blade and I don't think you can keep reforming it since there's going to be a limit to what's in that gourd. Using yin yang to kill the unkillable kinda makes him lean in TSB side when it comes to defense with Yata mirror and the TSB can cover the whole body. Obito was using 1 TSB for his orb shield which took a lot of powerful attacks so using all TSB would be stronger defense.
 

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You people have got to be sick of these same stupid sh!t threads by now...
 

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Yata could be a better defense because of hype alone, but gudodama's will eradicate totsukya seal on contact.
 
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Which has better defensive priorities the black orbs or yata?
And can black orbs block Totsuka blade like it can block ninjutsu?

Sigh..beats me. Kishimoto made the totsuka blade and yata mirror too broken and unelaborated. He needs to show them again in the movie and possessing a weakness, but he probably won't...

I have no damn clue about the sword, though it was described as etherial and made of energy while one could hypothesize yata has jutsu properties if its purpose is to cancel them out, somewhat like Madara's fan, which absorbed his chakra to block and counter jutsus.
 
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Sigh..beats me. Kishimoto made the totsuka blade and yata mirror too broken and unelaborated. He needs to show them again in the movie and possessing a weakness, but he probably won't...

More like he can't, they're actual weapons which went away with Itachi
 

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More like he can't, they're actual weapons which went away with Itachi

Unless Itachi placed them in Sasuke the last time he poked him or he can summon them anyway being that he has Itachi's eyes. Or perhaps someone with a specific chakra can summon them. It'd be kinda scary if Tonari summoned them, eh? :p
 
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You people have got to be sick of these same stupid sh!t threads by now...

Well excuse me for not seeing that thread, i have a life. And i was having a discussion with someone about it and we couldn't decide. So i came here
 

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Unless Itachi placed them in Sasuke the last time he poked him or he can summon them anyway being that he has Itachi's eyes. Or perhaps someone with a specific chakra can summon them. It's be kinda scary if Tonari summoned them, eh? :p

I think that might be possible. I actually made a thread Scott if they were put into sasuke or do weapons themselves choose a wielder
 

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Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror were weapons wielded by Sasunoo and not physically wield by Itachi. If the Truth-Seeking Orbs (Goudodama) attack Sasunoo, then Sasunoo would be effected and not the weapons.

In my opinion, the Truth-Seeking Orbs make for a better defense. It can change it shape and was able to shield and defend against a Tailed Beast Bomb.
 

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Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror were weapons wielded by Sasunoo and not physically wield by Itachi. If the Truth-Seeking Orbs (Goudodama) attack Sasunoo, then Sasunoo would be effected and not the weapons.

In my opinion, the Truth-Seeking Orbs make for a better defense. It can change it shape and was able to shield and defend against a Tailed Beast Bomb.

But can totsuka have the same or better effect than senjutsu on TSB
 

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Unless Itachi placed them in Sasuke the last time he poked him or he can summon them anyway being that he has Itachi's eyes. Or perhaps someone with a specific chakra can summon them. It'd be kinda scary if Tonari summoned them, eh? :p

Don't see that happening since Irachi would have to physically give it to Sasuke since they're actual weapons and not Susanoo based weapons (not created from MS power). So poke on the forehead wouldn't do it and if Sasuke had them then we would have seen them when he went Final Susanoo and PS but he didn't have them. Specifi chakra won't work since Orochimaru was looking for Totsuka which comes from a physical gourd. Also he was still under KA order to protect Konoha so giving the weapons to the person saying he wants to destroy Konoha would go against that order.
 

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Don't see that happening since Irachi would have to physically give it to Sasuke since they're actual weapons and not Susanoo based weapons (not created from MS power). So poke on the forehead wouldn't do it and if Sasuke had them then we would have seen them when he went Final Susanoo and PS but he didn't have them.

Yeah, there's no basis for that, especially since they're attached to susano'o lols. Anyway, the Rinnegan summons weapons using the asura path, Izanagi turns physical events into dreams, Kamui teleports physical objects while rinnegan switches with them, etc.

Specifi chakra won't work since Orochimaru was looking for Totsuka which comes from a physical gourd.

Right, I forgot jutsus derived from chakra can't damage physical objects! /Sarcasm

Also he was still under KA order to protect Konoha so giving the weapons to the person saying he wants to destroy Konoha would go against that order.

Sasuke was never afflicted with Koto Amatsukami and your sentence makes absolutely no sense lols.
 

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Yeah, there's no basis for that, especially since they're attached to susano'o lols. Anyway, the Rinnegan summons weapons using the asura path, Izanagi turns physical events into dreams, Kamui teleports physical objects while rinnegan switches with them, etc.



Right, I forgot jutsus derived from chakra can't damage physical objects! /Sarcasm



Sasuke was never afflicted with Koto Amatsukami and your sentence makes absolutely no sense lols.

Asura path doesn't summon weapons, it turns your body into weapons such laser from your head, missiles from the arm and blades. What's the point of mentioning Izanagi? Itachi couldn't use it since he didn't have Senju DNA when Obito said you need it for Izanagi and Sasuke would only use it to save his life since you lose an eye; its a forbidden jutsu. Why are you mentioning Kamui? Sasuke doesn't have that and Sasuke did not have the Rinnegan when Itachi was an Edo nor was Itachi using his weapons around Sasuke as an Edo Tensei.

What are you talking about? Yes chakra can damage physical weapons, we seen this with lightning element and wind element plus Susanoo and TSBs which are all chakra. You said having a specific chakra might summon the weapons, that's what I said wouldn't work since those weapons aren't an ability that manifest from chakra but actual weapons you have to find as Itachi did and is why Orochimaru was looking for Totsuka blade.

Was talking about Itachi being under KA not Sasuke.... Itachi isn't going to hand those weapons to Sasuke who was saying he wants to destroy Konoha. Itachi said he'll love Sasuke no matter what but that doesn't mean he will back Sasuke's decisions.
 

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TSB wins because it's far more versatile...
 
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