You can't say it was a bluff, in fact, everything else Madara said to Sasuke has been confirmed so you have more reason to believe Madara was telling the truth. Madara also said Itachi wasn't really trying to beat Sasuke. Itachi > Madara. If you want them in their primes, heathly Itachi is stronger, remember Itachi was sick and almost totally blind.u have to compare them in their max... Madara now has the eternal mangekyo and the Rinnegan, with all it's powers... he didnt lost to minato, he was only hit by minato ONCE, and naruto does not have FTG since it is a space-time tec and naruto simply has "a lot of speed due to large yang=physical chakra concentration"... plus when Itachi could have killed Madara, that was probabily a bluff to make sasuke join him if that's where you got that, because Madara has proven to be untochable..
the 3rd did not fight the 1st and 2nd at their prime, how else could the 3rd with no kekkei genkai beat 2 KG users like the previous HOKAGES FROM THE SENJU, and Orochimaro, only got prived from jerking off in his spare time, since he only lost his arms...
there you have it
Minato did defeat Madara. Minato stopped Madara's plan and Madara fled, if that's not winning then what is? Madara's missing an arm because of Minato; so much for "untouchable."
The 3rd fought IWR 1st and 2nd who both died young. They couldn't feel pain, 3rd was old and the 3rd still beat them and Orochimaru.
You made excuses, assumptions and potty words. I made valid, supported points.
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