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Kαmi

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Alright, so I made a list of the top 45 shinobi in the Narutoverse all formed around my opinion. Key word: opinion. Which means no need for flame as this is just for discussion. I was trying to see where I would place a certain character in my list and didn't want to stop at an odd number so 45 it was.


While making this list, I did keep a few things in mind:
-I considered every character at what I felt was their best fighting form in the time that we have seen them in the manga.
-No summoning jutsu was included, including Edo Tensei
-8th Gate Gai was not included because I didn't feel like dealing with the controversy of him technically winning the battle (this can be argued for days). I'd probably put him under current Naruto and Sasuke though.
-The Sage and his direct family were not included (Kaguya, Hagaramo's brother, Ashura, & Indra)

0. Prime Hiruzen
1. Rikudou Madara Uchiha
2. Naruto Uzumaki/Sasuke Uchiha
3. Naruto Uzumaki/Sasuke Uchiha
4. Rikidou Obito Uchiha
5. Hashirama Senju
6. Nagato Uzumaki
7. Minato Namikaze/Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze/Kabuto Yakushi
9. Tobirama Senju/Itachi Uchiha
10. Tobirama Senju/Itachi Uchiha
11. Killer Bee
12. 3rd Raikage
13. Kisame Hoshikage
14. Might Gai/Kakashi Hatake
15. Might Gai/Kakashi Hatake
16. Gaara of the Desert
17. Sasori of the Red Sand
18. Deidara/Kakuzu
19. Deidara/Kakuzu
20. Muu/2nd Mizukage
21. Muu/2nd Mizukage
22. Orochimaru
23. Ohnoki
24. SM Jiraiya
25. Danzo Himura
26. Tsunade Senju/Ei
27. Tsunade Senju/Ei
28. Mei Terumi
29. Kimimaro Kaguya
30. Hiruzen Sarutobi
31. Rock Lee
32. Neji Hyuga
33. Konan
34. Shino Aburame
35. Temari
36. Asuma Sarutobi/Hidan
37. Asuma Sarutobi/Hidan
38. Suigetsu Hozuki
39. Choji Akimichi/Sakura Haruno
40. Choji Akimichi/Sakura Haruno
41. Zabuza Momochi
42. Darui
43. Haku Yuki
44. Shikamaru Nara
45. Kiba Inuzuka/Hinata Hyuga
So what do you think, does it suck? Not half bad? Needs drastic changes or is it actually kinda good? I tried to be as unbiased as I could while making this list but I want your opinion cause I'm gonna keep this list on hand instead of having to think of a new list all the time. If I want to imagine where I can place a character, I'll just refer to this list. So please, tell me your thoughts :yeah: And let me know if you think I forgot anyone!
 

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Itachi is MUCH too high on the list.
SM Jman stomps him.
 

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u forgot itachi :c

other than that, i agree

edit: Nvm, itachi was there
 

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U just could make a thread and say I'm a Hiruzen fan. Just like others =D
 

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sakura top dog
I'm trying to make the list fair damnit.
Good Troll
You must have stopped at 0 Lol
Itachi is MUCH too high on the list.
SM Jman stomps him.

Stomps? How does SM Jman counter Amaterasu or fight Itachi without being able to see him in order to counter Tsukuyomi? J-man has shown no speed feat to counter Amaterasu or a sensing feat to know when chakra is building up. Lastly, Itachi is pretty smart in battle. With his chakra control, he puts up a hell of fight even without MS.
 

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Itachi should be higher. What's up with the prime Hiruzen hype again, or the Hiruzen fans are just trolling?
 

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Alright, so I made a list of the top 45 shinobi in the Narutoverse all formed around my opinion. Key word: opinion. Which means no need for flame as this is just for discussion. I was trying to see where I would place a certain character in my list and didn't want to stop at an odd number so 45 it was.


While making this list, I did keep a few things in mind:
-I considered every character at what I felt was their best fighting form in the time that we have seen them in the manga.
-No summoning jutsu was included, including Edo Tensei
-8th Gate Gai was not included because I didn't feel like dealing with the controversy of him technically winning the battle (this can be argued for days). I'd probably put him under current Naruto and Sasuke though.
-The Sage and his direct family were not included (Kaguya, Hagaramo's brother, Ashura, & Indra)

0. Prime Hiruzen
1. Rikudou Madara Uchiha
2. Naruto Uzumaki/Sasuke Uchiha
3. Naruto Uzumaki/Sasuke Uchiha
4. Rikidou Obito Uchiha
5. Hashirama Senju
6. Nagato Uzumaki
7. Minato Namikaze/Kabuto Yakushi
8. Minato Namikaze/Kabuto Yakushi
9. Tobirama Senju/Itachi Uchiha
10. Tobirama Senju/Itachi Uchiha
11. Killer Bee
12. 3rd Raikage
13. Kisame Hoshikage
14. Might Gai/Kakashi Hatake
15. Might Gai/Kakashi Hatake
16. Gaara of the Desert
17. Sasori of the Red Sand
18. Deidara/Kakuzu
19. Deidara/Kakuzu
20. Muu/2nd Mizukage
21. Muu/2nd Mizukage
22. Orochimaru
23. Ohnoki
24. SM Jiraiya
25. Danzo Himura
26. Tsunade Senju/Ei
27. Tsunade Senju/Ei
28. Mei Terumi
29. Kimimaro Kaguya
30. Hiruzen Sarutobi
31. Rock Lee
32. Neji Hyuga
33. Konan
34. Shino Aburame
35. Temari
36. Asuma Sarutobi/Hidan
37. Asuma Sarutobi/Hidan
38. Suigetsu Hozuki
39. Choji Akimichi/Sakura Haruno
40. Choji Akimichi/Sakura Haruno
41. Zabuza Momochi
42. Darui
43. Haku Yuki
44. Shikamaru Nara
45. Kiba Inuzuka/Hinata Hyuga
So what do you think, does it suck? Not half bad? Needs drastic changes or is it actually kinda good? I tried to be as unbiased as I could while making this list but I want your opinion cause I'm gonna keep this list on hand instead of having to think of a new list all the time. If I want to imagine where I can place a character, I'll just refer to this list. So please, tell me your thoughts :yeah: And let me know if you think I forgot anyone!

gai top 10
 

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I'm trying to make the list fair damnit.

You must have stopped at 0 Lol


Stomps? How does SM Jman counter Amaterasu or fight Itachi without being able to see him in order to counter Tsukuyomi? J-man has shown no speed feat to counter Amaterasu or a sensing feat to know when chakra is building up. Lastly, Itachi is pretty smart in battle. With his chakra control, he puts up a hell of fight even without MS.

Amaterasu has no speed feats to hit Jman. Plus did you forget how blind itachi was?
Sm allows him to fight itachi with his eyes closed.
 

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Itachi should be higher. What's up with the prime Hiruzen hype again?

U just could make a thread and say I'm a Hiruzen fan. Just like others =D

It's fine except 0.
They're are two Hiruzens in this list. I'm a Hiruzen fan but I'm not a delusional u_u

Besides, I find Prime Hiruzen threads to be absolutely hilarious so I'm gonna put him as 0 for the hell of it.
Nice list. But why sakura is not in list.

She is on the list.
 

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I LOVE the fact that you added Prime Hiruzen and Real Hiruzen seperately BUT even IF Hiruzen lives up to hype and knows ALL Konoha Jutsu he still is inferior to Naruto, Madara, Kaguya, Hagoromo, Indra, Ashura, Itachi, Shisui and so on

Itachi by feats SOLO

Shisui by Hype SOLO
 

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Non-Handicap Gai SOLO's Hagoromo and Madara... Maybe even Kaguya by feats
 

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Kami..... May ask from what basis do you believe Prime Hiruzen to be that high?

Kk Nvm...I saw your post saying that it is all in fun.
 

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hmm, I felt 7th Gate Gai wouldn't beat the people mentioned above more than they could beat him.
Amaterasu has no speed feats to hit Jman. Plus did you forget how blind itachi was?
Sm allows him to fight itachi with his eyes closed.

J-man has no feats like the people we have seen dodge Amaterasu, Ei or Hebi Sasuke. Hebi Sasuke only avoided it because his Sharingan can see chakra build up so he knew to start running. We've seen it spawn on sight with Danzo, Bee, Obito and Madara. Jiraiya has no speed feat or sensing feat to counter something that spawns on sight. Jiraiya's SM was never shown to let him fight in the dark like Naruto, J-man has no sensing feats in SM besides his barrier technique which still requires his sight. Regardless of Itachi's sight, he still has better feats and intelligence than Jiraiya has.
 
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