Top Ninjas in Naruto

[Penguin]

Re: Top 15

My list does not include Edo Tensei.

1. Rikudobito
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Naruto
5. Sasuke
6. Nagato
7. Kabuto
8. Minato/Tobirama/Itachi
9. Muu/2nd Mizukage/3rd Raikage
10. Kirabi
11. Deidara
12. Sasori
13. Kisame
14. Kakashi
15. SM Jiraiya

I just made this up. ._.

lol Tobirama is not even top 20 :|

Just keep talking.

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Re: Top 15

1.juubito
2.kabuto ET
3.orochimaru ET
4.hashirama
5.madara
6.nagato w gedo
7.naruto
8.itachi
9.sasuke
10.minato

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Re: Top 15

Is all Senjutsu different? I suppose it could be possible that Madara is only compatible with Hashirama's due to Kabuto (Orochimaru's) augmentations. Just felt like butting in...

That's the thing; the three variants of Sage mode have all exhibited different characteristics throughout, both Aesthetically and through Jutsu - such as Frog Sage Mode's extended range on physical attacks or crazy range and durability. Likewise neither Madara, Kabuto or Hashirama have done anything near Naruto or Jiraiya's feats of physical strength but at the same time have their own unique skills.

 

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

Of course this Kabuto haters will not understand .

OT : I agree on the list , although IMO Nagato > Naruto & should be number 5 .

He is not.
Naruto's kage bushins.

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Naruto BM has a great fire power, his speed is insane and he has a good defense. The kage bushins can be used to create a diversion or to atack as well, because the clones are very powerul too(remember that he can make SM clones, KCM clones and even BM clones, all these clones are kage level). This is enough to put him above nagato, as naruto can use the SM clones to atack nagato with taijutsu, while he uses kcm clones as a diversion for powerful blasts or punches. We're aware that nagato can't absorve too much SM chakra without turning into a stone frog, making SM perfect for taijutsu. Naruto can also use a shockwave(he uses the bijuu dama close to nagato, but not close enough for him to absorve it, creating huge shockwaves,explosions, which nagato can't absorve). Besides, if nagato is busy abosorving a big bijuu dama, he is opened for taijutsu atacks.

Plus Naruto BM has the speed and strength which naruto can't keep up with. And naruto BM has shown feats to resist of any of nagato's atack, but the oposiste is not true.
BM naruto> Nagato.

BSM> Nagato(Obviously)

 

[Transcendence]

Re: Top 15

Are you considering minato with BM feast or not? Because if not, he shouldn't be that high, should he?
Also... kakuzu? I mean, there are stronger people: there is kakashi(kamui), 4th raikage, danzou, orochimaru, SM jiraya...

Yes Minato is that high. Flying Raijin is beyond haxxed. And he's number 8, it's not like I put him in the top 5. Everyone you listed isn't stronger than Kakuzu bar Sennin Modo Jiraiya and if that match-up were to come to fruition, the only way he would win, is if the match-up has Jiraiya already in Sennin Modo. Kakuzu's constant elemental bombardment wouldn't allow Jiraiya to go in to Sennin Modo.

 

[KingHashirama]

Re: Top 15

1. Obito
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Kabuto
6. Many can be argued, but no one from the akatsuki thats for sure.

 

[Europa]

Re: Top 15

That's the thing; the three variants of Sage mode have all exhibited different characteristics throughout, both Aesthetically and through Jutsu - such as Frog Sage Mode's extended range on physical attacks or crazy range and durability. Likewise neither Madara, Kabuto or Hashirama have done anything near Naruto or Jiraiya's feats of physical strength but at the same time have their own unique skills.

The Sage mode itself each seems to give the users different abilities, I agree. But is Madara absorbing just senjutsu chakra that then reacts to the enormous amount of Hashirama-cells in Madara's body, giving him Hashirama's sage mode? Or is it just him taking Sage Mode literally from Hashirama and using it himself. Because if it's the latter, not sure if he could tolerate or handle a different sage transformation.

 

[Bronze]

Re: Top 15

Madara is not above obito juubi jin. He has never shown a feat to put him above that obito.

The fact he can summon black zetsu from his body through black rod and with SM he beats him using trump card. Okay

 

[Zexion~]

Re: Top 15

Are you considering minato with BM feast or not? Because if not, he shouldn't be that high, should he?
Also... kakuzu? I mean, there are stronger people: there is kakashi(kamui), 4th raikage, danzou, orochimaru, SM jiraya...

Yes Minato is that high. Flying Raijin is beyond haxxed. And he's number 8, it's not like I put him in the top 5. Everyone you listed isn't stronger than Kakuzu bar Sennin Modo Jiraiya and if that match-up were to come to fruition, the only way he would win, is if the match-up has Jiraiya already in Sennin Modo. Kakuzu's constant elemental bombardment wouldn't allow Jiraiya to go in to Sennin Modo.

Eh Ay can probably beat him U_U Although without Knowledge Kakuzu may pull out an ambush victory due to Ay's blitzing...As he would then revive and simply use his fuuton

 

[Penguin]

Re: Top 15

The fact he can summon black zetsu from his body through black rod and with SM he beats him using trump card. Okay

Just because he has SM you think he wins? Rikudobito destroys.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Re: Top 15

Yes Minato is that high. Flying Raijin is beyond haxxed. And he's number 8, it's not like I put him in the top 5. Everyone you listed isn't stronger than Kakuzu bar Sennin Modo Jiraiya and if that match-up were to come to fruition, the only way he would win, is if the match-up has Jiraiya already in Sennin Modo. Kakuzu's constant elemental bombardment wouldn't allow Jiraiya to go in to Sennin Modo.

I have no way of understanding how you possibly came to the conclusion Sasori was stronger than Kakashi, Kakuzu, Danzo Ohnoki, the Third Raikage and the second Mizukage.

 

[Namikun]

Re: Top 15

I agree with your list, but not with the Kabuto spot, that should be switched with Madara's.

 

[Transcendence]

Re: Top 15

Eh Ay can probably beat him U_U Although without Knowledge Kakuzu may pull out an ambush victory due to Ay's blitzing...As he would then revive and simply use his fuuton

I don't see Ay winning, although it wouldn't be a swift victory for Kakuzu. Kakuzu's sheer experience would let him combat Ay.

 

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

Yes Minato is that high. Flying Raijin is beyond haxxed. And he's number 8, it's not like I put him in the top 5. Everyone you listed isn't stronger than Kakuzu bar Sennin Modo Jiraiya and if that match-up were to come to fruition, the only way he would win, is if the match-up has Jiraiya already in Sennin Modo. Kakuzu's constant elemental bombardment wouldn't allow Jiraiya to go in to Sennin Modo.

But jiraya alone is a good match, the summonings, the strong jutsus... Orochimaru, he is basically importal, and those snake jutsus he pulled with the 4 tails fight. 4th raikage is also very strong. Kakuzu wouldn't keep up with his speed and his strength, and that raiton shield of him is very protective.
Danzou, with use of izanagi, can take it. I mean, he displayed some powerful mvoes on the battle, that summoning, futons atack, kakuzu doesn't have great defense, despite those black hearts, they're not very hard to be taken down.
And, why would hiraishin but minato that high? I mean, he doesn't have fire power to take down some opponents.

 

[Bronze]

Re: Top 15

Just because he has SM you think he wins? Rikudobito destroys.

No. Black Zetsu is Madara's will which can be manifested through black rod that has Madara's chakra resides within them. With Sage mode, Madara can summon black Zetsu from Obito's body from the black rod and Senjutsu overpowering him thus defeating him.

A tactic and trump card Madara was confident he can beat Obito using it.

 

[Wolfus]

Re: Top 15

The fact he can summon black zetsu from his body through black rod and with SM he beats him using trump card. Okay

But, black zetsu can't control juubi jin obito. And we have yet to seewhat are madara's feats with senjutsu. It's not like everybody with senjutsu could defeat obito.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Re: Top 15

The fact he can summon black zetsu from his body through black rod and with SM he beats him using trump card. Okay

So by that Logic so can Kabuto.
And the DragonLord reigns supreme yet again.

The Sage mode itself each seems to give the users different abilities, I agree. But is Madara absorbing just senjutsu chakra that then reacts to the enormous amount of Hashirama-cells in Madara's body, giving him Hashirama's sage mode? Or is it just him taking Sage Mode literally from Hashirama and using it himself. Because if it's the latter, not sure if he could tolerate or handle a different sage transformation.

It's a strange thing to say the least, it doesn't necessarily mean Madara can't suddenly become compatible to the new Senjutsu though.

 

[HiddenSound]

Re: Top 15

The fact he can summon black zetsu from his body through black rod and with SM he beats him using trump card. Okay

He can summon Black Zetsu through Obito's body, or his own body, or...?

 

[Transcendence]

Re: Top 15

I have no way of understanding how you possibly came to the conclusion Sasori was stronger than Kakashi, Kakuzu, Danzo Ohnoki, the Third Raikage and the second Mizukage.

Kakashi? I don't buy in to the Kamui validity. If we factor that in, Kakashi is undoubtedly top 7-10 then.

Kakuzu? Debate on the matter extensively on top of seeing the best Kakuzu debater on the site (DrProof) lose to Owarjj when Owarjj was using Sasori.

Danzo and Ohnoki are both debatable, but I haven't seen flight speed feats to suggest that he'll dodge a seemingly endless barrage of poison tipped weapons.

The other two? Highly debatable. Probably should have put them higher than both Sasori and Kisame, but I'll remake this list another time.

 

[Bronze]

Re: Top 15

But, black zetsu can't control juubi jin obito. And we have yet to seewhat are madara's feats with senjutsu. It's not like everybody with senjutsu could defeat obito.

Black Zetsu with Senjutsu can overpower him. Sage mode is the key in defeating Juubito, something Madara was confident that it will work on Obito once he takes Sage mode from Hashirama.

He can summon Black Zetsu through Obito's body, or his own body, or...?

The black rod inside Obito's body which Madara implanted years ago [

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A trump card and tactic Madara was confident that it will work.