Top most smartest guys ...

[Omnipotent]

Tobirama was the first to violate the laws of Nature with Edo Tensei.
Tobirama was the pioneer in S/T techniques, and his S/T was comparable to that of FTG and Kamui.

In the "with preparation" category, he ranks somewhere there.

 

[Owarij]

Minato didn't predict the future.. the Old Sage Frog did, who told Jiraya, who then told Minato..
All minato has done in this manga is break down tobi's ability ....



If this is about strategy

Shikaku
Kakashi/Shikimaru/Itachi
Minato

As for people putting obito above Itachi, kinda weird considering Obito's words were "Itachi, even when dead you never cease to amaze me" and " I can't believe how far he plans ahead"
And obito didnt know about the back up backup ka plan

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

1. Shikamaru/Shikaku
2. Orochimaru
3. Kabuto/Itachi
4. Itachi/Kabuto
5. Obito
agreed

Seriously? Obito and Kabuto naaaa this is top 5 ATM

 

[Fecal Matter]

Shikaku will always be the top.Until Shikamaru advances anyway

 

[KingHashirama]

Its actually hard to decide. Especially when there isn't a clear definition of "intelligence".. But if we are going by IQ, then Shikamaru is the smartest.

 

[Bogard]

Minato didn't predict the future.. the Old Sage Frog did, who told Jiraya, who then told Minato..
All minato has done in this manga is break down tobi's ability ....

LOL, he did foresee the future. Old Sage frog only said there will be a destiny child, never talked about who it could be. Many including Jiraya thought it was Minato, but somehow Minato knew it was his son instead. How can you explain that?

It's the same thing like when he saw thru Killer-Bee just by seeing him once something that Raikage only discovered decades later. It seems he is really good in seeing thru these kind of things. His eyes are even better than the Sharingan lol

 

[Kurama2012]

id say the 5 top smartest characters but not in any order would have to be

madara, hashirama, itachi, minato and shikaku

i havent put them in order as its hard to do so as i dont believe there is a great gap between them

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Minato didn't predict the future.. the Old Sage Frog did, who told Jiraya, who then told Minato..
All minato has done in this manga is break down tobi's ability ....



If this is about strategy

Shikaku
Kakashi/Shikimaru/Itachi
Minato

As for people putting obito above Itachi, kinda weird considering Obito's words were "Itachi, even when dead you never cease to amaze me" and " I can't believe how far he plans ahead"
And obito didnt know about the back up backup ka plan

Yeah to me obito is never in top 5 list about the future think I think he did predict that obito would be trouble and yes it came to pass..he predicted bee would be a fine shinobi if A guard and care for him it came to pass ...

 

[Owarij]

LOL, he did foresee the future. Old Sage frog only said there will be a destiny child, never talked about who it could be. Many including Jiraya thought it was Minato, but somehow Minato knew it was his son instead. How can you explain that?

It's the same thing like when he saw thru Killer-Bee just by seeing him once something that Raikage only discovered decades later. It seems he is really good in seeing thru these kind of things. His eyes are even better than the Sharingan lol

Urm, he was told that one of jiraya's students will be the destined child.. Jiraya thought it was him, but he was going to kill himself that night, meaning the only other person he knew of who would be jiraya's student would be his son.. do you want me to get the scan in which he attributes his connection to his son and the sage from with what jiraya told him (i.e the prophecy?)

Yeah to me obito is never in top 5 list about the future think I think he did predict that obito would be trouble and yes it came to pass..he predicted bee would be a fine shinobi if A guard and care for him it came to pass ...

That has nothing to do with strategical thinking.

 

[KingHashirama]

Urm, he was told that one of jiraya's students will be the destined child.. Jiraya thought it was him, but he was going to kill himself that night, meaning the only other person he knew of who would be jiraya's student would be his son.. do you want me to get the scan in which he attributes his connection to his son and the sage from with what jiraya told him (i.e the prophecy?)

@ Bold and Underline....uh no, plus he went so far ahead and predicted only someone with the 9-tails power could stop him.

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

Urm, he was told that one of jiraya's students will be the destined child.. Jiraya thought it was him, but he was going to kill himself that night, meaning the only other person he knew of who would be jiraya's student would be his son.. do you want me to get the scan in which he attributes his connection to his son and the sage from with what jiraya told him (i.e the prophecy?)




That has nothing to do with strategical thinking.

Noo but it had something to do with what you said earlier

 

[Owarij]

@ Bold and Underline....uh no, plus he went so far ahead and predicted only someone with the 9-tails power could stop him.

Regardless of whether naruto got the fox or not, the prophecy would turn out true, considering the sage frog has never been wrong...

 

[Bogard]

Urm, he was told that one of jiraya's students will be the destined child.. Jiraya thought it was him, but he was going to kill himself that night, meaning the only other person he knew of who would be jiraya's student would be his son.. do you want me to get the scan in which he attributes his connection to his son and the sage from with what jiraya told him (i.e the prophecy?)

Except that like Kushina said, he could have survived that night if he really wanted. So being alive, there was still a possibility that he could have been the child of profecy, but he decided to give up his life by betting on his son because at that time he somehow saw it was his son instead even going as far ahead with his prediction to say that only someone with Kyubi's chakra would be able to make it. What made him think Naruto could have been Jiraya's disciple to begin with? What made him think Jiraya would not have had other disciples in this case? He simply saw in the future, saw it could only be his son

 

[Owarij]

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Don't know why this is an argument, you literally see him remembering what jiraya told him

He simply saw in the future, saw it could only be his son

Because Minato is a prophet right? How far are you going with this?

If Itachi had not made a truce with tobi, what was stopping pein and all of akatsuki from taking naruto when he was like 11?

That wasn't strategic thinking what so ever, it was reacting based of a prophecy, a complete and utter gamble

 

[Aertes]

Depends on how you define intelligence.But in general from battles and strategies we have seen I would have to say that is
Shikaku
Kakashi/Itachi
Shikamaru
Minato
I feel that Madara's and Hashirama's story isn't unfold yet, to put them on the list.I would like to see more first.
And no Sasuke and Obito don't have what it takes to get into this list.

 

[Bogard]

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Don't know why this is an argument, you literally see him remembering what jiraya told him

Everyone know this. I don't the point with our debate

 

[Owarij]

Everyone know this. I don't the point with our debate

The point is , It's manga fact Minato based his decision on what Jiraya told him, which in turn was told to him by the frog.. You're insinuating Minato is some magical prophet who predicted the future himself.. All he did was gamble on the fact that jiraya's student will become the saviour

 

[BEASTLY NARUTO]

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Don't know why this is an argument, you literally see him remembering what jiraya told him


Because Minato is a prophet right? How far are you going with this?

If Itachi had not made a truce with tobi, what was stopping pein and all of akatsuki from taking naruto when he was like 11?

That wasn't strategic thinking what so ever, it was reacting based of a prophecy, a complete and utter gamble

No one is saying that itachi is not intelligent I would like him on pair with Shikamaru or kakashi

 

[Bogard]

The point is , It's manga fact Minato based his decision on what Jiraya told him, which in turn was told to him by the frog.. You're insinuating Minato is some magical prophet who predicted the future himself.. All he did was gamble on the fact that jiraya's student will become the saviour

No one said he didn't base his opinion from Old Sage prediction, but i'm saying that using that prediction where Jiraya originally thought it was even him, he somehow saw it was his son instead. I don't know how it's difficult for you to understand. It's not about magical powers here, but something that Minato simply read thru exactly like what he did with Killer-Bee

 

[YellowFang]

I 'll list them a/c to their smart's usefulness...

1- Minato
2- Itachi/Kakashi
3- Sasuke/Oro(maybe)
4- Shika-ku&maru

Real thing is that top 3 can use their smarts in their battle anytime...
Shika people takes time in devising strategies although they are top class and mostly fool proof but still they can't use their smarts anytime they need...