Yeah Akainu is underrated after getting "owned" by WB. People forget that WB left that battle with his face nearly blown off and a hole in his chest, despite catching Akainu off-guard.
[Discussion] Top 7 Most under and overrated characters in OP...make your list!
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Uzumaki Macho
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How is Sabo overrated? He is at admiral level and no one says he's higher than that.
Your comment proves that he's overrated lol. Just cause Sabo got the MMnM doesn't mean he's at admiral level. He can barely control it properly. Once he masters it, then he'll be admiral level. Even if you're right, what will happen to Sabo once he masters the MMnM? He'll go over admiral tier and be able to compete with people like Shanks/WB? No. He's close to admiral level but not on that tier.
Uzumaki Macho
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He was strong enough to become the right hand man of the strongest character alive before obtaining the MMnM and he has very strong haki and a strong DF now. Oda is portraying him as around equal to Fujitora, who is admiral level obviously. You are underrating him.
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Well we have to see the battle. As of right now, I'd say even Marco is stronger than Sabo (small margin). Sabo's inexperienced with his DF, he even said it himself. It'll take time to get used to it. The power of the MMnM will prob. boost him to admiral level but only once he masters it or gets on the same level of Ace's control with the DF. As of right now, it's too early to say he's on admiral level.
Oda isn't portraying anything as of yet. If Oda was trying to portray anything, he would of had a bigger emphasis on the battle. He's just having them clash, which is inevitable during a fight with someone near admiral level (Sabo) and someone who's at admiral level (Fujitora). Vista was clashing with Mihawk, does that mean they're automatically on the same tier? No. Clashing is something inevitable when people of relatively close strength fight. IMO, Fujitora is probably the weakest admiral so he's at the bottom of admiral tier with Marco & maybe Kizaru.
Here is how I see things. Sabo is close to admiral level once he got the MMnM but once he masters it, he'll be on mid/top of admiral tier. Sabo would eventually master his DF near EOS so he'll be able to fight with someone like Akainu (which most people are predicting).
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jiraiya lives
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Ace was on see just around 3 years, Sabo was 10 years out there. Ace was able to put good fight against admiral (Aokiji) and he would probably put a good fight against Akainu (he was battleworn after battle with BB and Akainu was bad match up for him). Considering that both of these admirals were candidates for Fleet admiral, I assume these two are top tier of Admiral.
Sabo who was around equal with Ace when they were 10 years old, should have much bigger increase in power than Ace, considering that he trained 10 years. So even pre time skip Sabo should at least be equal with Ace and he is probably little stronger.
On top of that Sabo had 2 years of time skip to train and on top of that he go Mera Mera. So I don't see a problem with him being admiral level.
Also, revolutionares are organization that oppose WG, I really doubt that their second in commande wouldn't be Admiral level fighter.
If we make a parallel between Marines and Revolutionares:
Dragon/leader of revolutionares - Fleet Admiral
Sabo/2nd in command - Admiral
Or since revolutionares is not huge organization like marines, let also make a parallel with yonko crew.
Dragon - Captain / Yonko level
Sabo - First Mate of Yonko crew. We saw 2 First Mates of Yonko crew, Marco and Benn and I would say that both of them are on Admiral level.
I also don't see a problem with him being above admiral level. Roger crew's first mate in old age is strong enough to hold against Admiral, in his prime, I see him being able to be around Shanks and Old WB level...
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I didn't say that he is currently above admiral level -.-"
I'm saying that he will be above admiral level and strong as Shanks and others when he master Mera Mera, which Yo Momma San said is not possible.
Uzumaki Macho
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He confused us, he didn't mean current Sabo he meant EoS Sabo, and most people will agree that Sabo is admiral level.
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Mihawk is underrated?
How is Smoker underrated?
And I think Croc is actually rated just perfectly.
I assume your basing that Roger off of the VS 3 admiral threads.
under rated
-magallen-i think this guy's hugely underrated.he soloed whole BB crew.croco ivankov and jinbei dididn't want to face him despite having the advantage in numbers.
-drake-drake was able to throw back a pacifista before the timeskip and also make it bleed.it took luffy's jet gatttling+zoro's pound ho+sanji's diable jimbei togather do this.
sanji-when people say things like zoro mid diffs him or he's out of the M3 shows that he's really underrated.in reality sanji has shown just as much as feats or even more then zoro or any other in the crew.
crocodile-the fact that he was beaten by luffy made him a lot undrrated.he went against doflamingo and was able to handle a direct swing from mehawk without much trouble.
over rated
mehawk-without knowing any info about shanks duels with mehawk people are putting him on yanko level.for all we know it could have been just dueling of swords without shanks using any of his other abilities.
kid-he's poweless unless there are chunks of metal lying around.
sabo-jsut because someone is able to clash with an admiral for a while dosn't make them stronger.
zoro-well zoro is hugely overrated because of his fanbase.people saying things like zoro>law/luffy is bullshit.
-magallen-i think this guy's hugely underrated.he soloed whole BB crew.croco ivankov and jinbei dididn't want to face him despite having the advantage in numbers.
-drake-drake was able to throw back a pacifista before the timeskip and also make it bleed.it took luffy's jet gatttling+zoro's pound ho+sanji's diable jimbei togather do this.
sanji-when people say things like zoro mid diffs him or he's out of the M3 shows that he's really underrated.in reality sanji has shown just as much as feats or even more then zoro or any other in the crew.
crocodile-the fact that he was beaten by luffy made him a lot undrrated.he went against doflamingo and was able to handle a direct swing from mehawk without much trouble.
over rated
mehawk-without knowing any info about shanks duels with mehawk people are putting him on yanko level.for all we know it could have been just dueling of swords without shanks using any of his other abilities.
kid-he's poweless unless there are chunks of metal lying around.
sabo-jsut because someone is able to clash with an admiral for a while dosn't make them stronger.
zoro-well zoro is hugely overrated because of his fanbase.people saying things like zoro>law/luffy is bullshit.
Memento Mori
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I almost agree with this U_U
Why Zoro sama is in overrated list by many
.....Why that much hate? 
:nuts::NO:Edit - What is the meaning of the "Lol" comment in that rep Bogard?
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This is the level of disrespect you get for being Luffy's big brother instead of being a newly introduced charcater. Day in and out I see people on this forum sucking off Ben Beckman or Marco. But when it comes to Sabo we need to think to see if the "second in command" of the revolutionary army is admiral level right.
Too me he is not admiral level. He is on par with all the admirals except Akainu and thats perfect logic in my opinion. In order to attain the position of second in command of Dragons army he had to be flirting with admiral level and thats not an assumption. Sabo and Ace has always been pretty equal(not to mention he was a protege to Dragon) and had an additional 2 years over Ace and plus he now has the Mera Mera
I really don't think Oda has to write it in crayons or in bold letters. He is on par with the admirals. If not the revolutionary army is shit and an irrelevant faction in one piece to me. Look at the shit this man has been doing in Dressrosa and keep in mind he was toying around
1)Cracks "The 1st in command of BB thick hakified armour" with just his fingers WTF(What if he didn't aim for the armour)
2)Makes the ring snap and the explosion was heard from where hack was. This is the same ring that survived continent busters and Kings Punch. Also he made the water level rise and people evacuate the colisem
3)Was able to see Hakuba when no one could
4)Snaped Diamante Sword like it wasn't shit
5)Held back Fujitora and all the marines from going to destroy the beloved Zoro and Luffy
6)Cracked Bastille Shark Cutter and helmet with just his fingers and haki and keep in mind that this is a veteran vice admiral
7)Still clashing with Fujitora while easily implementing the Mera Mera easily into his fighting style..meaning all the attacks he has used are upgraded x2 even without control of the Mera
And to sum all that all he has done "EVERYTHING CASUALLY"..I hope u don't think he only has 2 Dragon techs and one form of haki..lol..he has shown #)% of what he is capable of
At the end of the day this man is an "Elite Hakified Martial Artist"..Primarily..who just upgraded with the Mera Mera..I don't want to hear he needs to master the Mera Mera to be admiral level. Because this guy probably had mastery of Haki before he even learned a fighting style..more than 10 years ago
And Btw I have 2 overated charcaters in OP and thats Enel and Beckman..and I really don't want to say Beckman is overrated because I'm sure he is stronger than Sabo..but the Kizaru scene is overrated..and fans use it to hype him. How I figure if Kizaru can troll WB and Marco..Beckman shouldn't be an exception
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