Top 5 Wealthiest Characters/Clans/Villages in the series.

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They were not the only clans being hired for war. We have no way of figuring out how much they made off commission and how much wealth was obtained. The countries and borders were different and the economic climate was as well.

You're speculating that just because they were one of the strongest that they were paid much more, that they actually saved that money (and it wasn't used for warring) or that they were even paid in currency. It could have been provisions, land etc. We simply do not know to that extent for you to assume a clan without a village had more wealth than an established village at any given time.

The only benchmarks we have on clan wealth was Konoha and Uzushiogakure. In which case, yes. The Uzumaki were wealthier than the uchiha.



owning 3 mountains isn't more valuable than owning a village. Not to mention the Uzumaki also had their hideouts as well.
Uchiha and Senju where the main clans being hired that's a fact tho Obito and Hashirama said it.

Like i said tho. At that time and age no clan or anyone for that matter had a village not the Uzumaki not the Sarutobi not the Shimura no one. Just because the Uzumaki made one after Uchiha and Senju already joined forces and made a village mean they were richer.

Who said it was?

They really didn't tho. The only known "hideout" they had was on the outskirts of Konoha where those masks was held. While Uchiha have hideouts in mountains and underground.
 

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Uchiha and Senju where the main clans being hired that's a fact tho Obito and Hashirama said it.

Like i said tho. At that time and age no clan or anyone for that matter had a village not the Uzumaki not the Sarutobi not the Shimura no one. Just because the Uzumaki made one after Uchiha and Senju already joined forces and made a village mean they were richer.

Who said it was?

They really didn't tho. The only known "hideout" they had was on the outskirts of Konoha where those masks was held. While Uchiha have hideouts in mountains and underground.
Them being the main clans doesn't mean they were paid a greater amount. You're speculating.

The time and age you keep leaning on doesn't matter as they lost that wealth when Konoha was founded and they lost the war to the Senju. If you know war, you should know that losing doesn't usually mean you get to keep things.

Now it may sound like im speculating but i'm not. They went from being the 2nd wealthiest by your standards, to owning 3 mountains and a section in Konoha.

Where as the Uzumaki went from not having that to having their own village, economy, military, and shinobi system.

If we're going to argue semantics and technicalities then that "All Time" wealthiest clans, the Uchiha, Senju, and Uzumaki shouldn't even be on the list and it would just be the other 3 noble clans and the Otsuki clan.

Seeing how the Uchiha are poor, The uzumaki are more of a individual race than they were a clan, and the senju are completely gone save for Tsunade.


At the peak of their wealth what canonically, Did the Uchiha own?

3 mountains and a section in the village.



At the peak of their wealth what canonically did the Uzmaki own?

Their own village.



How is that hard to comprehend?



You're basically saying. The Uchiha were wealthier because they were probably paid more as mercenaries and were strong.

What logic are you using man? You're using one period out of the entire series to justify putting the Uchiha above the Uzumaki.
 
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Just because Naruto is hokage doesn't mean he has money,

Sakura and Sasuke together probably make more than anyone , and they have land in the leaf, bigger than the hyugga compound
 

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Just because Naruto is hokage doesn't mean he has money,

Sakura and Sasuke together probably make more than anyone , and they have land in the leaf, bigger than the hyugga compound
Where did I even use Naruto in my post?


Naruto is one man who wealth comes from his position as a hokage, the highest a shinobi can earn.

Sit down.



Im tired of people using, "Probably" but have no proof.
 

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Where did I even use Naruto in my post?


Naruto is one man who wealth comes from his position as a hokage, the highest a shinobi can earn.

Sit down.



Im tired of people using, "Probably" but have no proof.
Sakura's in debt but apparently has more money then Naruto who owns his own home and another one too from the last
 

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Yeah I knew about Village stats Kumogakure really is best overall. And now raikage with that weapon capable of destroying the entire Moon.
 

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Clan that was Tobirama´s playthings can´t be rich. Tobirama moved Uchiha´s to the outskirt of the village , reduced their political influence and and made Konoha citizens to dislike them ( literally all manga facts )

Tobirama >>>>> Uchiha´s

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Them being the main clans doesn't mean they were paid a greater amount. You're speculating.

The time and age you keep leaning on doesn't matter as they lost that wealth when Konoha was founded and they lost the war to the Senju. If you know war, you should know that losing doesn't usually mean you get to keep things.

Now it may sound like im speculating but i'm not. They went from being the 2nd wealthiest by your standards, to owning 3 mountains and a section in Konoha.

Where as the Uzumaki went from not having that to having their own village, economy, military, and shinobi system.

If we're going to argue semantics and technicalities then that "All Time" wealthiest clans, the Uchiha, Senju, and Uzumaki shouldn't even be on the list and it would just be the other 3 noble clans and the Otsuki clan.

Seeing how the Uchiha are poor, The uzumaki are more of a individual race than they were a clan, and the senju are completely gone save for Tsunade.


At the peak of their wealth what canonically, Did the Uchiha own?

3 mountains and a section in the village.



At the peak of their wealth what canonically did the Uzmaki own?

Their own village.



How is that hard to comprehend?



You're basically saying. The Uchiha were wealthier because they were probably paid more as mercenaries and were strong.

What logic are you using man? You're using one period out of the entire series to justify putting the Uchiha above the Uzumaki.
Lol i'm really not tho. I'm saying the Uchiha and Senju was already joined together before the Uzumaki even formed a village system. Just because they have a village don't mean they're richer than Uchiha or other nobel clans. That's like saying they're richer than Senju because they're in the same boat as Uchiha.
 

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Lol i'm really not tho. I'm saying the Uchiha and Senju was already joined together before the Uzumaki even formed a village system. Just because they have a village don't mean they're richer than Uchiha or other nobel clans. That's like saying they're richer than Senju because they're in the same boat as Uchiha.
The Senju were not in the same boat as the Uchiha.


The Senju had political power and influence among the other nations. He was the one who divided powers among the others. They also had control of the Nine-Tails (until Madara stole it and Hashirama took it back) They were in no way the same level as the Uchiha.


It does mean they were wealthier. You can't have your own village, economy, militray power and shinobi system as a solitary clan without some form of wealth.


Can you please provide proof of the Uchiha's wealth prior to the village forming, compare that to when the village is formed, and finally compare both to the Uzumaki.

So far all you have is Mercenary money for the warring period and 3 mountains.
 
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Why are Uchiha fans so insecure that they insist on their favs being the best at everything even when it blatantly isn't true?

Entire village and country > Small sector of a village
No one insisted on that. Who did?

Anyways, I haven't seen anything concrete from Conrow that establishes the Uzumaki as ''that'' rich. If a clan itself starting their own village is so impressive, then I suppose Orochimaru bathes in opulence since he alone formed The Village Hidden in Sound, which to this day is still existent, contrary to the now nowhere-to-be-seen Land of Whirlpools.
 

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No one insisted on that. Who did?

Anyways, I haven't seen anything concrete from Conrow that establishes the Uzumaki as ''that'' rich. If a clan itself starting their own village is so impressive, then I suppose Orochimaru bathes in opulence since he formed The Village Hidden in Sound, which to this day is still existent, contrary to the now nowhere-to-be-seen Land of Whirlpools.
Yes, it is impressive. For one man post-warring period to found and fund his own village is amazing. In no way, shape or form should this be undermined.

Unfortunately, Orochimaru doesn't have a clan so it wouldn't factor into the list. Believe me, if Orochimaru belonged to a clan and the sound village was recognized as such it would be above both the Uchiha and Uzumaki as it functions to this day and ever growing.




It's actually recognized as a legitimate village whereas before it was used as a proxy for experiments and learning jutsu.


This leads to speculation on just how wealthy Orochimaru is. I don't believe he is a kage so it stands to question the leadership of the village.
 
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The Uchiha and Senju were the strongest, and were the most hired and most expensive to hire. The Uzumaki clan doesn't even have a date of origin, and could have been around for mere decades in comparison to the two major clans that have been around for centuries. Considering how big the Uchiha hideout was, it seemed more like a place of living than an actual "hideout". And if a place like that was a "hideout" it means they were nomadic and if the hideout was that big they were quite rich.

The Uchiha Clan is probably the richest clan as of right now after the Otsutsuki considering the Senju are gone. Sasuke hasn't laid a hand on his inheritance and God knows how much money is there. The idea that the Uzumaki are richer makes sense, but the land that their "village" was on was quite small and we don't even know how big the village was or how expensive it was to make and maintain. The Uzumaki weren't the most hired, the Senju and Uchiha were and considering how long the Uchiha lasted, they ended up the most wealthy by rational deduction.
 
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The Uchiha and Senju were the strongest, and were the most hired and most expensive to hire. The Uzumaki clan doesn't even have a date of origin, and could have been around for mere decades in comparison to the two major clans that have been around for centuries. Considering how big the Uchiha hideout was, it seemed more like a place of living than an actual "hideout". And if a place like that was a "hideout" it means they were nomadic and if the hideout was that big they were quite rich.

The Uchiha Clan is probably the richest clan as of right now after the Otsutsuki considering the Senju are gone. Sasuke hasn't laid a hand on his inheritance and God knows how much money is there. The idea that the Uzumaki are richer makes sense, but the land that their "village" was on was quite small and we don't even know how big the village was or how expensive it was to make and maintain. The Uzumaki weren't the most hired, the Senju and Uchiha were and considering how long the Uchiha lasted, they ended up the most wealthy by rational deduction.
Very well said :flowers:
 

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The Uchiha and Senju were the strongest, and were the most hired and most expensive to hire. The Uzumaki clan doesn't even have a date of origin, and could have been around for mere decades in comparison to the two major clans that have been around for centuries. Considering how big the Uchiha hideout was, it seemed more like a place of living than an actual "hideout". And if a place like that was a "hideout" it means they were nomadic and if the hideout was that big they were quite rich.

The Uchiha Clan is probably the richest clan as of right now after the Otsutsuki considering the Senju are gone. Sasuke hasn't laid a hand on his inheritance and God knows how much money is there. The idea that the Uzumaki are richer makes sense, but the land that their "village" was on was quite small and we don't even know how big the village was or how expensive it was to make and maintain. The Uzumaki weren't the most hired, the Senju and Uchiha were and considering how long the Uchiha lasted, they ended up the most wealthy by rational deduction.
I replied in the spoiler but the bottom line is below it.

Can you provide concrete evidence of how much they were paid or even how they were paid for that matter? You can't.

You're speculating that because they were hired more frequently that they were being paid more. You're not accounting how much of that payment went towards provisions of living and fighting the Senju in a war which they lost.

What War have you ever seen that the losing side didn't suffer a great loss? Economy wise, Military wise, and population wise?

You're telling me that despite warring non-stop for decades, losing to the Senju, and being sectioned off in a village. That they somehow still had the wealth and power pre-war? That's fucking ridiculous.

You and styles have yet to provide any concrete evidence of their wealth.

You're doing nothing but speculating and writing a narrative that the Uchiha had wealth that exceeded the Uzumaki post-war.


You then have the nerve to say something stupid like Uchiha inheritence and Sasuke hasn't touched his yet.

1. Sasuke is a orphan and has been using his inheritance since his first appearance. The same with Naruto. Both under Hiruzen's care.

2. Even if Sasuke hasn't used this "inheritance" The Uchiha estate is no more. I can pull up a map of konoha and there isn't a single location where the Uchiha estate exists.

3. Sasuke was a rogue ninja, just like his brother. You're telling me you can become an enemy of the state and not have assets frozen, garnished or outright taken? That's ignoring the attempted coup they were planning.

4. Sasuke must obviously be a piece of shit if he makes his wife and daughter live in an apartment, make her take out loans she cant pay on just to put a roof above their heads and give him a place to come home to.

But sure. Sasuke has a load of wealth he isn't even touched yet despite pushing 34 and having a family to provide for.

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The Uchiha at their peak are wealthier than a clan with their own Village.




Being as rich as they were they could have easily left rather than stage a coup by your logic which would make a coup pointless. Instead they relied on the one thing they were actually known for, their power and tried to overthrow an established government rather than make their own.

Bottom line: I'm tired of you and style's replies being "probably" or "most likely"

All I want from you and styles are manga scans.

1. How much they were getting paid
2. How they were getting paid
3. How much they had when they lost the war
4. Sasuke's inheritance

If you literally cannot provide me this then please shut the fuck up about this. Like don't even reply. You Uchiha fans literally feel as if you have to be first in everything.

I've never seen someone fight so hard for 2nd place in a category that isn't even remotely relevant to the story.

I could make a list of the largest clans in Konoha and you guys would probably ***** about that too somehow.

"b-b-but at their peak their numbers-"

"can you show me facts of their population?"

"well they were the strongest so they were probably larger in number"
 
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I replied in the spoiler but the bottom line is below it.

Can you provide concrete evidence of how much they were paid or even how they were paid for that matter? You can't.

You're speculating that because they were hired more frequently that they were being paid more. You're not accounting how much of that payment went towards provisions of living and fighting the Senju in a war which they lost.

What War have you ever seen that the losing side didn't suffer a great loss? Economy wise, Military wise, and population wise?

You're telling me that despite warring non-stop for decades, losing to the Senju, and being sectioned off in a village. That they somehow still had the wealth and power pre-war? That's fucking ridiculous.

You and styles have yet to provide any concrete evidence of their wealth.

You're doing nothing but speculating and writing a narrative that the Uchiha had wealth that exceeded the Uzumaki post-war.


You then have the nerve to say something stupid like Uchiha inheritence and Sasuke hasn't touched his yet.

1. Sasuke is a orphan and has been using his inheritance since his first appearance. The same with Naruto. Both under Hiruzen's care.

2. Even if Sasuke hasn't used this "inheritance" The Uchiha estate is no more. I can pull up a map of konoha and there isn't a single location where the Uchiha estate exists.

3. Sasuke was a rogue ninja, just like his brother. You're telling me you can become an enemy of the state and not have assets frozen, garnished or outright taken? That's ignoring the attempted coup they were planning.

4. Sasuke must obviously be a piece of shit if he makes his wife and daughter live in an apartment, make her take out loans she cant pay on just to put a roof above their heads and give him a place to come home to.

But sure. Sasuke has a load of wealth he isn't even touched yet despite pushing 34 and having a family to provide for.

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The Uchiha at their peak are wealthier than a clan with their own Village.




Being as rich as they were they could have easily left rather than stage a coup by your logic which would make a coup pointless. Instead they relied on the one thing they were actually known for, their power and tried to overthrow an established government rather than make their own.

Bottom line: I'm tired of all you and style's replies being "probably" or "most likely"

All I want from you and styles are manga scans.

1. How much they were getting paid
2. How they were getting paid
3. How much they had when they lost the war
4. Sasuke's inheritance

If you literally cannot provide me this then please shut the fuck up about this. Like don't even reply. You Uchiha fans literally feel as if you have to be first in everything.
If you can't prove how rich everyone else is based on clear manga scans speaking on the wealth of the clans, then demanding scans from me is just sheer stupidity.

I gave you a bunch of manga factual things and pieced them together as best I could. The Uchiha was the second most hired clan and one of their hideouts was quite big, meaning they were nomadic and if the hideout was big they were quite rich. Considering the fact that they had enough money to build a village with the Senju, they were clearly wealthy. They were even hired to wipe out the Chinoike Clan, an example of the quality of missions they were assigned.

A clan like the Uchiha were obviously hired for incredibly dangerous and high-paying missions. I mean, all we can go on when judging a clan's wealth is their power and how long they've been around. The Uchiha were there in the beginning with the Senju and outlived both the Senju and Uzumaki, meaning they were and still are quite wealthy. Demanding manga scans for something that we can only speculate about is just...ridiculous, we can only deduce here.
 

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Uchiha wasn't getting paid enough to start their own village, heck even the senju weren't they had to Run a deal with the Fire Daimyo:
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And with all that help their village(when its just those 2 clans) was tiny as shit.


Uzumakis? Had their own land(land of whirlpools) and had their Own village(Uzushiogakure), and best of all.

Did it By themselves


Damn uchihafaps. Where's the land of uchihas? wait there isn't any. At best they had a measly base.

Where's the Uchiha village? wait there isn't any all they got was a small section of konoha, off to the side next to the prisoners.


Like cut it out now even your "precious clan" chock full of pride is forced to rock the uzumaki symbol:
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