Top 5 shinobis with the best natural talent

Who is the most gifted shinobi? (Multiple choice)

  • Hashirama

    Votes: 27 46.6%
  • Madara

    Votes: 19 32.8%
  • Minato

    Votes: 29 50.0%
  • Itachi

    Votes: 25 43.1%
  • Sasuke

    Votes: 14 24.1%
  • Kakashi

    Votes: 13 22.4%
  • Hiruzen

    Votes: 12 20.7%
  • Tobirama

    Votes: 8 13.8%
  • Orochimaru

    Votes: 8 13.8%
  • Killer Bee

    Votes: 4 6.9%

  • Total voters
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RasenUchihaChaos

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This is wrong especially Gai. He is an extreme hard worker. There are lots of shinobis better than Zabuza. And putting Zabuza above Itachi is ridiculous.
u said natural talent zabuza a shinobi who gained his skill on his own wiped out 100 other kids as a kid by himself no kg no borrowed or given powers so ye he is on my list he banged kakashi up pretty good
 

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u said natural talent zabuza a shinobi who gained his skill on his own wiped out 100 other kids as a kid by himself no kg no borrowed or given powers so ye he is on my list he banged kakashi up pretty good
That's a good argument. But I believe there are other shinobis that can kill 100 kids as a kid too. Minato and Itachi for instance.

I would if he was that great without Obito's sharingan. Are you trying to speculate that Gai is a Senju?
Kakashi was great without his Sharingan. He owned Gai when they were both kids remember. Gai needed to train really hard to rival Kakashi.
 

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I honestly doubt that, especially in Hashi's case who does not have anything beside his KKG anyway.

If we looked at Hiruzen, he was able to learn all the Jutus in konoha, and was known as the strongest Hokage konoha has ever had. He is not even with any KKG.

Minato as well, he was able to learn the Uzumaki's sealing jutsus even though he is not from that clan, he learned Tobirama's jutsus and surpassed him, he learned from Jiraiya and mastered SM to some extent...etc

people like Hashi use his KKG for everything, he was born with it, and itachi beside his MS his talent was only with Kunais in my opinion...etc

but, I guess it's only a matter of opinions.

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about madara as well, he is not different from Kabuto, he is just powerful because he steal the power one after the other

he Took Izuna's eyes, then Kurama's power, the Hashi's cells, and his SM, the he gain the Rinnegan from that, and then the Juubi...etc

it's not by his own, the same how Kabuto was stealing the other's power.
KKG is natural, raw talent. People like Gai, Minato, Jiraiya, Hiruzen, etc don't have natural talent, they worked their asses off. Hashirama's mokuton abilities are is natural talent, unless you don't understand what the word 'natural' means.
 

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Looking for nagato.

why is nagato not on that list
He is powerful only because of borrowed Rinnegan. No offense, I am his fan too.

I don't think that Nagato is talented on his own without Rinnegan.

KKG is natural, raw talent. People like Gai, Minato, Jiraiya, Hiruzen, etc don't have natural talent, they worked their asses off. Hashirama's mokuton abilities are is natural talent, unless you don't understand what the word 'natural' means.
U need to understand the word "talent" too. Minato and Hiruzen really had natural talent as they didn't even had any KKG, but able to become really powerful.

Hashirama's mokuton is a given special power not talent.
 
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I honestly doubt that, especially in Hashi's case who does not have anything beside his KKG anyway.

If we looked at Hiruzen, he was able to learn all the Jutus in konoha, and was known as the strongest Hokage konoha has ever had. He is not even with any KKG.

Minato as well, he was able to learn the Uzumaki's sealing jutsus even though he is not from that clan, he learned Tobirama's jutsus and surpassed him, he learned from Jiraiya and mastered SM to some extent...etc

people like Hashi use his KKG for everything, he was born with it, and itachi beside his MS his talent was only with Kunais in my opinion...etc

but, I guess it's only a matter of opinions.

Edit:

about madara as well, he is not different from Kabuto, he is just powerful because he steal the power one after the other

he Took Izuna's eyes, then Kurama's power, the Hashi's cells, and his SM, the he gain the Rinnegan from that, and then the Juubi...etc

it's not by his own, the same how Kabuto was stealing the other's power.
I wanna further argue against you. Remember, Madara when he was a kid was able to kill adult Senju shinobis, even before awakening Sharingan. And Hashirama was stronger than him during their childhood. We never saw Hashirama using mokuton as a kid.

So Hashirama and Madara are gifted shinobis even without KKGs.

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"Learned all jutsus in Konoha" and mastered all 5 basic elements are really something isn't it.
That's called hype, until I see him using mind transfer, rasengan, the 8 gates, etc.. then it shouldn't even be considered.

As for kakashi's hype, he's copied 1000 jutsus & he's much, much younger than hiruzen [potential to copy more]. Yes he used the sharingan to do it but show me a single sharingan user who has copied the same amount of jutsus as kakashi. This is a nod to his "natural talent" because even with a borrowed tool he's still able to use it on par or even better than your average uchiha can.

& As for feats, hiruzen has no prime feats, so you can't even compare his natural talent to others who do. You don't know if he's good or bad at using "all of konoha's jutsus" because he has no feats using them.
 

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1. Hashirama
2. Madara
3. Minato
4. Itachi/Shisui
5. Tobriama
6. Kakashi
7. Hiruzen
8. Sasuke
9. Killer Bee
10.Orochimaru/Neji
Hard to choose so I made a top 10, I couldn't make up my mind for a little bit, but this is what I'm going though I might want to change it up as I think about it more.
 
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