Top 5 shinobis with the best natural talent

[mohdzarif]

For me:
1. Hashirama
2. Madara
3. Itachi
4. Minato
5. Hiruzen

UPDATE: For those who don't believe that Hashirama and Madara had natural talents even without Kekkei Genkai, remember that Madara was able to kill "experienced adults" from Senju. That's before he awekened his Sharingan. And Hashirama was stronger than him.

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[Bronze]

1- Indra
2- Madara/Hashirama
3- Kakashi
4- Itachi
5- Minato/Orochimaru

 

[take it easy]

itachi
oro
minato
bee
tsunade

 

[Ababeel]

How it's natural talent for Hashirama, madara, and the others?
Especially those two who actually have Indra and Asura's chakra in them!

The most talented in my opinion are those who don't have KKG yet became strong as hell!

Minato, Hiruzen, Kakashi (to some extent), Jiraiya...etc

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Indra daddys said so

Harashima

Madara

Zabuza

Gai

Itachi

 

[asad70ful]

1- Indra
2- Madara/Hashirama
3- Kakashi
4- Itachi
5- Minato/Orochimaru

this i think is more like it......

 

[mohdzarif]

How it's natural talent for Hashirama, madara, and the others?
Especially those two who actually have Indra and Asura's chakra in them!

The most talented in my opinion are those who don't have KKG yet became strong as hell!

Minato, Hiruzen, Kakashi (to some extent), Jiraiya...etc

Having Indra and Ashura in their bodies didn't make any difference. Look at Naruto and Sasuke. Hashirama and Madara were both extremely gifted even without KKG I believe.

 

[Andy Bogard]

Nobody that is a jinchuriki, Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki, or Hyuga
So naturally:
1.) Onoki
2.) 3rd Raikage
3.) Hiruzen
4.) Orochimaru
5.) Might Gai
The only reason I didn't put Jiraiya is because of senjutsu.

 

[Misconception]

I don't see why people have Madara on this list... Ms Madara is easily under Ms Sasuke and Itachi feat wise...

Ms Madara- Giant Katon,Basic Genjutsu,Yasaka Magatama,Regular Susanoo,

Ms Itachi- Tsukuyomi,Katon,Izanami,Yasaka Magatama,Amaterasu,Regular Susanoo...

Ms Sasuke- Snake Summonings,Hawk Summoning,Amaterasu,Blaze Release,Chidori,Kirin,Basic Genjutsu,Katon,Regular Susanoo,

 

[the last shinobi]

hasi/maddy
itachi
sasuke
neiji
oro

 

[Jowy Atreides]

hashi of course.

 

[mohdzarif]

Indra daddys said so

Harashima

Madara

Zabuza

Gai

Itachi

This is wrong especially Gai. He is an extreme hard worker. There are lots of shinobis better than Zabuza. And putting Zabuza above Itachi is ridiculous.

 

[Misconception]

1- Hashirama
2- Ms Obito(1eye of course)
3- Gai
4- Ms Sasuke
5- Naruto

 

[mohdzarif]

I don't see why people have Madara on this list... Ms Madara is easily under Ms Sasuke and Itachi feat wise...

Ms Madara- Giant Katon,Basic Genjutsu,Yasaka Magatama,Regular Susanoo,

Ms Itachi- Tsukuyomi,Katon,Izanami,Yasaka Magatama,Amaterasu,Regular Susanoo...

Ms Sasuke- Snake Summonings,Hawk Summoning,Amaterasu,Blaze Release,Chidori,Kirin,Basic Genjutsu,Katon,Regular Susanoo,

We never saw young Madara's true potential. But to become the leader of the Uchiha, he must be a once-in-decades Uchiha prodigy like Itachi. I believe he is more gifted than Itachi, simply because of he was able to become the leader.

 

[the last shinobi]

Nobody that is a jinchuriki, Uchiha, Senju, Uzumaki, or Hyuga
So naturally:
1.) Onoki
2.) 3rd Raikage
3.) Hiruzen
4.) Orochimaru
5.) Might Gai
The only reason I didn't put Jiraiya is because of senjutsu.

if this thread is about natural talent why would those people be excluded they are naturally born with what they have

 

[Ababeel]

Having Indra and Ashura in their bodies didn't make any difference. Look at Naruto and Sasuke. Hashirama and Madara were both extremely gifted even without KKG I believe.

I honestly doubt that, especially in Hashi's case who does not have anything beside his KKG anyway.

If we looked at Hiruzen, he was able to learn all the Jutus in konoha, and was known as the strongest Hokage konoha has ever had. He is not even with any KKG.

Minato as well, he was able to learn the Uzumaki's sealing jutsus even though he is not from that clan, he learned Tobirama's jutsus and surpassed him, he learned from Jiraiya and mastered SM to some extent...etc

people like Hashi use his KKG for everything, he was born with it, and itachi beside his MS his talent was only with Kunais in my opinion...etc

but, I guess it's only a matter of opinions.

Edit:

about madara as well, he is not different from Kabuto, he is just powerful because he steal the power one after the other

he Took Izuna's eyes, then Kurama's power, the Hashi's cells, and his SM, the he gain the Rinnegan from that, and then the Juubi...etc

it's not by his own, the same how Kabuto was stealing the other's power.

 

[Ababeel]

one last point as of now

Spoiler

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That's how I see madara, just like what Kabuto said. And that's why madara was stealing the other's powers, so he can
be something, or else by his own power (MS only) he is not all that much.

 

[mohdzarif]

I honestly doubt that, especially in Hashi's case who does not have anything beside his KKG anyway.

If we looked at Hiruzen, he was able to learn all the Jutus in konoha, and was known as the strongest Hokage konoha has ever had. He is not even with any KKG.

Minato as well, he was able to learn the Uzumaki's sealing jutsus even though he is not from that clan, he learned Tobirama's jutsus and surpassed him, he learned from Jiraiya and mastered SM to some extent...etc

people like Hashi use his KKG for everything, he was born with it, and itachi beside his MS his talent was only with Kunais in my opinion...etc

but, I guess it's only a matter of opinions.

Edit:

about madara as well, he is not different from Kabuto, he is just powerful because he steal the power one after the other

he Took Izuna's eyes, then Kurama's power, the Hashi's cells, and his SM, the he gain the Rinnegan from that, and then the Juubi...etc

it's not by his own, the same how Kabuto was stealing the other's power.

No, Madara was really gifted. I'm not talking about the current Madara, that was obvious, he was stealing power.

To become the leader of one of the strongest clans is really something. He must be a once-in-decades Uchiha prodigy.

 

[Andy Bogard]

if this thread is about natural talent why would those people be excluded they are naturally born with what they have

Because I'm a fat Panda..
But srsly, I was just filtering out people whose "natural" talent is accounted for by Hagoromo's bloodline or Bijuu power. But since Orochimaru was stated to have Hashi's cells all on him, I replace him with Sakumo Hatake.

 

[Sageflash]

1. Minato
2. Hashirama
3. Madara
4. Kakashi
5. Itachi