Top 3 Senju and Uchiha wooop (now and Future)

[KingHashirama]

So with today's chapter both sides have changed and the top 3 of both sides are basically set now. (Keep in regard this is my take on this)


Now:

Spoiler

Senju:


1. Hashirama
2. Ashura
3. Naruto



Uchiha:

1. Madara
2. Indra
3. Sasuke

By the end of the series:

Spoiler

Senju:

1. Naruto
2. Hashirama
3. Ashura


Uchiha:

1. Sasuke
2. Madara
3. Indra

Post your lists on the strongest Senju and Uchiha. Also, if you have any questions in regards to why i put someone in that ranking ask.

 

[Joker]

Pretty sure Ashura is stronger than Hashirama, due to being DIRECTLY under the Sage.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

Naruto isn't a Senju and you have no idea how strong Indra and Ashura were

 

[FoxesInWonderland]

I honestly don't think Hashirama surpassed ashura. Madara is a different story obviously because.. Well it's obvious lol

 

[Uchicha Macho]

naruto is not a senju but an uzamaki. he represent the younger son

 

[ShiroT]

Pretty sure Ashura is stronger than Hashirama, due to being DIRECTLY under the Sage.

this i would put both brothers over madara and hashirama

 

[KingHashirama]

Something to explain my rankings.

Ashura and Indra:

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Hashirama and Madara:

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Pretty sure Ashura is stronger than Hashirama, due to being DIRECTLY under the Sage.

Pretty sure Hashirama's buddha smashes or non-SM Hashirama is stronger.. -sigh-.

And pretty sure Rikudou said Parents really have nothing to do with how strong someone is..

Yea BM smaller than PS really is stronger than the Buddha.

Naruto isn't a Senju and you have no idea how strong Indra and Ashura were

uhhhhhhh

People who were born in fighting and in that style of fighting > People who were the starters of that fighting style.. Its simply common sense.

And Aushra = Senju, Naruto as a Senju via his Uzumaki heritage is a Senju.

 

[Atache]

This guy is grazy, he outta put Hashrima above Ashura

 

[ShiroT]

Something to explain my rankings.

Ashura and Indra:

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Hashirama and Madara:

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Pretty sure Hashirama's buddha smashes or non-SM Hashirama is stronger.. -sigh-.

And pretty sure Rikudou said Parents really have nothing to do with how strong someone is..

Yea BM smaller than PS really is stronger than the Buddha.



uhhhhhhh

People who were born in fighting and in that style of fighting > People who were the starters of that fighting style.. Its simply common sense.

And Aushra = Senju, Naruto as a Senju via his Uzumaki heritage is a Senju.

plus he did said indra DID inherit the good stuff while his brother didnt(the saying about not inheriting from your parents was for aushra). But aushra was holding what 6 tbb's? Or the black orbs of the ten tails im not really sure. Either way i think there on a whole different level. And using the scan of a giant tailed beast susanno vs a ps susanno where we cant see the whole body? not a good arguement

 

[Joker]

Something to explain my rankings.

Ashura and Indra:

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Hashirama and Madara:

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Pretty sure Hashirama's buddha smashes or non-SM Hashirama is stronger.. -sigh-.

And pretty sure Rikudou said Parents really have nothing to do with how strong someone is..

Yea BM smaller than PS really is stronger than the Buddha.



uhhhhhhh

People who were born in fighting and in that style of fighting > People who were the starters of that fighting style.. Its simply common sense.

And Aushra = Senju, Naruto as a Senju via his Uzumaki heritage is a Senju.

What ever you say.

 

[Sir Blades]

Correction Indra and Ashura are Ootsutsuki lol /thread



#FAILANALYSIS

But for Madara kurama is not his base/raw power, he can't use that every single time. Final susano'o is his highest power not kurama armored with susano'o.

 

[A$AP Wap]

Seriously? Ashura's Bijuu Guy has Six arms can create and roll Bijuu Bombs like they're Bowling Balls.
Hashirama can not counter continuous Tailed Beast Bombs like that.

 

[VongolaX]

I never understood the the younger generation all that well.

I mean Naturally the older son has Perfect Susanoo as did Madara, while I expected the younger son the use physical energy to make a buddah...

It's a Asura statue instead, why does Hashirama a descendant have a giant buddah and the sage's younger son has a little Asura.

Plus he has mokuton, where did that power come from?
(Besides the whole juubi thing)

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Eh. I'd say we put Naruto (The Honorary Senju) above Ashura, merely because they have apparently identical powers but Naruto can add Senjutsu. Unless we see more, I think Naruto surpassed his previous carnation. Put Hashirama is without a doubt on the top.

I'd also put Madara above Sasuke. Just because, while Sasuke does have the stronger jutsu (Amaterasu/Enton) his stamina isn't nearly as high as Madara's, who was said to fight Hashirama for a day or so. Sasuke doesn't have a feat to put him on such a high stamina level. It's close though.

 

[GhostProject]

I see your reasoning, but I think Ashura and Indra are going to be stronger. We only saw a brief one panel to sum up their fight, kind of like when we saw Hashirama vs Madara in one panels before the official fight. They were only charging each other with weapons in those panels. In the real fight we saw 2 miniature gods throwing huge structures at each other.

In the brief panel we see the Younger Son rolling up 5 bijuu bombs and a tank of a Susanno who can deal with all that. On top of that, the Younger has some sort of Perfect Bijuu Mode we haven't seen yet, that can create 5x the amount of TBB at a time that we've seen Naruto use, and we know how strong Naruto is. Now the Elder Son can keep up with all of that.


When we see the real fight, I bet it's gonna be some mind-blowingly scaled fight beyond what we've seen in this manga. Of course it's speculation, but Kishi has a hype now with this panel and he's going to want to blow that hype away with the real deal.

 

[Mitarashi]

VOTE Legends > Brothers. Don't be mad, everyone. It's been proven more than enough times now lol.

I think Naruto/Sasuke will be on PAR with the Vote legends, possibly a bit stronger.

 

[~Sky~]

I believe the Sage's sons are yet to be surpassed.

 

[FemmeFatale]

No wonder TObirama invented all Narutos jutsu

 

[KingHashirama]

plus he did said indra DID inherit the good stuff while his brother didnt(the saying about not inheriting from your parents was for aushra). But aushra was holding what 6 tbb's? Or the black orbs of the ten tails im not really sure. Either way i think there on a whole different level. And using the scan of a giant tailed beast susanno vs a ps susanno where we cant see the whole body? not a good arguement

We saw the whole body for the younger sons bm... its quite smaller than a full version kurama.

But older sons ps is ps.... problem here is... madara is far more experienced in fighting and ninjutsu...he was fighting with ninjutsu since he was a mere child... cant say the same for older son.

Correction Indra and Ashura are Ootsutsuki lol /thread



#FAILANALYSIS

But for Madara kurama is not his base/raw power, he can't use that every single time. Final susano'o is his highest power not kurama armored with susano'o.

even with normal ps... he has shown the complete form... while older ones does
Nt look like the fully stabilized form... plus the lack of ems.


And as for them being his sons.... yea well naruto shat on minato long time ago... so probably aint the best logic to apply in naruto.

Seriously? Ashura's Bijuu Guy has Six arms can create and roll Bijuu Bombs like they're Bowling Balls.
Hashirama can not counter continuous Tailed Beast Bombs like that.

hmmm im assuming you havent read the vote fight.... and also thos tbbs are drastically smaller