1- I mentioned that because Obito can heal, while Toneri can't. Thus the durability goes to him, because that's durability, the duration you have on a battle.
2- Raw power is not just the destroying capability, its about range too. Toneri's strongest atack, which is really powerful, has no range, rendering the atack inferior to Obito's strongest atack.
3- This is not a Obito vs Toneri thread. So i don't know why you bothered on saying how toneri can land hits on Obito when its really out of subecjt. We are talking about who's overall stronger.
4- It having no AoE is not false. The atack is thin (compared to other OP atacks we've seen). Are you gonna even argue that? And it is related to fire power.
Kaguya's bones have a lot of fire power, but they lack range. If it wasn't because of their speed, it's overall firepower would be lower.
Why would fire power have nothing to do with the range of the atack? Toneri's moon slicing stick can be side stepped, while Obito's atack can't.
Obito's final atack > Toneri's
1. I was clearly referring to who can tank the stronger attack.
2. No, range is range, and raw power is raw power. :lol Separate terms with separate definitions. Toneri's range extends beyond the moon as his blade was large enough to cut the Moon. Obito's range is nothing compared to that regardless.
3. Whatever floats your boat. Toneri is still stronger. Though I find it hilarious that you tell me not to talk about landing hits on Obito when you are trying to use "it can be sidestepped" as some kind of argument when this isn't a VS thread scenario. Ironic as hell tbh. You don't even any real grounds to claim that Toneri is weaker so I don't even know why this argument has dragged on past the first post.
-Toneri is more durable.
-Toneri is faster.
-Toneri has more raw power.
-Toneri has the same Gudo Dama+Special abilities.
-Toneri has telekinesis.
Obito is inferior in all aspects except regen, and he only has the Gudo Dama which Toneri also have.
4. Are you going to stop lying about what occurred in the movie and actually debate with honesty here? :lol. Toneri's range is Moon level as he can cut the whole moon in half. If he swings the blade from side to side, he can cover the whole battlefield. It can also be fired as a laser, which is not thin.
Learn what firepower is. Range and speed have nothing to do with firepower. Fire
power is POWER. Range is how far it extends. AoE is the amount of area it covers and Period. You make no sense. When Obito's final attack can cut the Moon in half, then we can talk about Obito's Quad Juubidama being superior to Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion.
If I used your logic, every single Bijuu Dama in the Manga>Toneri's attack in firepower because they cover a larger area. Makes zero sense. Are we going to use the same logic for PS's slash? Are even the weakest of BD's far superior to Madara's PS's blades because "lol less AoE"?
