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so your admitting that bils thinks he has to make everything ten times harder and slower for himself just because of the writer wanting kung fu battles? then why on earth would the writer call this guy a god? its either horrible writing or toriyama's conception of god is far different to tenchi muyos or marvel's.

thats ludicrous. the celestials are gods in marvel and are considered as such by most but they arent the actual strongest gods even then. LT and one above all are. but LT isnt "from a race called god". probably because he was in the first place, the one who created the word "god" and the concept of it.
something created bils and that something is stronger than he is. thats how it works. the power of creation rules over destruction. bils cant create shit. he can destroy all he likes but he will never be as powerful as someone who controls atoms and the fabric of reality.

no. no he isnt. hes just CALLED god because thats the job title.
like ganfall from one piece was called god because thats the name of the ruler of skypeia. enel confused himself with a real invincible god, just like your confusing bils with a real god.
the only real gods in fiction that have quantifiable and destructive feats are TOAA and kami tenchi.

you couldnt have. LT is truly non coporeal. he exists in every universe meaning hes omnipresent. his very being is interwoven with the universe. at any time he can remove his physical incarnation and fight as a purely cosmic entity. only another cosmic being can even attack him. strange tried it and his attack got deflected like nothing.
hirudegarn is JUST a dumb beast berserker who sometimes turns into mist, but not all the time, and even trips and falls on skyscrapers.

what if piccolo's wrong? hes been wrong before, and underestimated a great many beings including his own adopted son gohan.

non canon. battle of gods is intended to take place in the mangaverse

Bills used a single finger that sent SSJ Goku flying and he used Chopsticks to beat the Z-Fighters. That's definitely a work of a God. Janemba can control atoms and the fabric of Reality and he's weaker than Bills.

You are such a hypocrite because before when I said that Bills is a God, you said that there are other characters in DBZ like Kami, etc that are Gods. But I was trying to tell you then that Bills is a true God because he's from a race called God while Kami and others Gods in DBZ are not from a race called God, their just called Gods because that's their job title unlike Bills. Understand?
Hiru is the strongest Intangible user and if you say that Piccolo is wrong, then you disagree with the original dialogue and that's stupid.
 

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no. no it isnt. any true god wouldnt need to use a finger. theyd just think about it, and goku would disintegrate. the fact bils actually used physical force means hes massively weaker than people who never need to like kami tenchi, since they are already cosmic and can do anything they like
Janemba can control atoms and the fabric of Reality and he's weaker than Bills.
if he could control atoms and reality, he would disintegrate bils. he would be unbeatable. the fact that he is weaker than bils is proof he cannot do the things you claim he can do. he couldnt get past gogeta. meaning he cannot control atoms. atoms make up everything in the universe. you cant just control some but not others.
You are such a hypocrite because before when I said that Bills is a God, you said that there are other characters in DBZ like Kami, etc that are Gods. But I was trying to tell you then that Bills is a true God because he's from a race called God
you provided no sources or evidence. so i chose to ignore you. you arent trying to tell me anything. your spouting baseless lies.

Hiru is the strongest Intangible user and if you say that Piccolo is wrong, then you disagree with the original dialogue and that's stupid.
yes i disagree when a character in a manga says bullshit crap.
vegeta: im the strongest in the universe.
you disagree? thats stupid. thats the original dialogue. vegeta is not wrong according to you.

babidi: i'm your master, buu
again, according to you babidi is irrefutably correct when he said this.

freeza: im strongest in the universe.
goku: i can't beat fat boo
goku: my full power is super saiyan 2
kaio: planet vegeta was destroyed by a meteor
vegeta: theres no way kakarot is a super saiyan.

do i need to go on? just like you, when someone makes a claim, they have to be able to back it up with facts and points. and just like you, piccolo failed to do this. he made an outlandish exagerrated claim so the others would understand what was at stake and get motivated to fight.

Hiru is the strongest Intangible user
hes a lumbering beast who cannot go intangible. he turns into an elemental mist. but mist is still there isnt it? its still physical. no one tried to hurt him in that state because he was never shown to be able to actually stay in mist form for more than a few moments. the strongest non coporeal beings are that way indefinitely, and only create a physical form if absolutely necessary.
 

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no. no it isnt. any true god wouldnt need to use a finger. theyd just think about it, and goku would disintegrate. the fact bils actually used physical force means hes massively weaker than people who never need to like kami tenchi, since they are already cosmic and can do anything they like

if he could control atoms and reality, he would disintegrate bils. he would be unbeatable. the fact that he is weaker than bils is proof he cannot do the things you claim he can do. he couldnt get past gogeta. meaning he cannot control atoms. atoms make up everything in the universe. you cant just control some but not others.

you provided no sources or evidence. so i chose to ignore you. you arent trying to tell me anything. your spouting baseless lies.


yes i disagree when a character in a manga says bullshit crap.
vegeta: im the strongest in the universe.
you disagree? thats stupid. thats the original dialogue. vegeta is not wrong according to you.

babidi: i'm your master, buu
again, according to you babidi is irrefutably correct when he said this.

freeza: im strongest in the universe.
goku: i can't beat fat boo
goku: my full power is super saiyan 2
kaio: planet vegeta was destroyed by a meteor
vegeta: theres no way kakarot is a super saiyan.

do i need to go on? just like you, when someone makes a claim, they have to be able to back it up with facts and points. and just like you, piccolo failed to do this. he made an outlandish exagerrated claim so the others would understand what was at stake and get motivated to fight.


hes a lumbering beast who cannot go intangible. he turns into an elemental mist. but mist is still there isnt it? its still physical. no one tried to hurt him in that state because he was never shown to be able to actually stay in mist form for more than a few moments. the strongest non coporeal beings are that way indefinitely, and only create a physical form if absolutely necessary.

Invalid. Like I said, it would be all too easy if Bills ended everything with just his voice. We wouldn't want the Movie to last seconds, would we? Well you underestimate Gogeta and Bills because Janemba can do them feats if he wanted to. your just stating bullsh!t and I'm not stating lies as I'm just stating the truth. So if you feel that way about the Japanese Dub why are you keep on saying that the goddamn Funimation Dub is wrong!!? And you keep on referring to the Japanese Dub!!? Hiru's Mist makes him Itangible and he turns himself into a ILLUSION! Try beating a goddamn illusion. He would destroy all the other Intangible users. Nope, you don't understand in your wildest dreams what Piccolo meant.
 

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Like I said, it would be all too easy if Bills ended everything with just his voice. We wouldn't want the Movie to last seconds, would we?
that invalidates him being strongest character in anime because thats what some characters in anime are capable of, ending everything with a thought. lord of nightmares. satan from bastard! the reason they dont is because they are either outright trickster gods who just want to have fun and watch chaos, or neutral jerk gods who forbid themselves from getting involved.
you contradicted yourself. you said being a god is boring if they are omnipotent and kill everyone they like with a thought. therefore if bils is that powerful, he looks like a fukin dumbass overhyped villain for not being able to succeed in his plans and defeat everything in his path. you dont hype someone as unbeatable then dont have them back it up without it being proof he isnt so great after all.
either he can and looks like a weak loser for not doing so, or he cant and he still looks like a weak loser. you overhyped him
Hiru's Mist makes him Itangible and he turns himself into a ILLUSION
mist is a physical gaseous aspect. he is still in the physical world. show me proof its an illusion. if you can become an illusion then your non coporeal, and your real body was never in the real world at all. hirudegarn is a dumb ox who only uses said intangibility as a reflexive defence and in the end, dies because his real body was hit and not the illusion. you say hes invincible yet he cant even stay in his mist mode for more than a few seconds. most users of this technique can stay in it almost indefinitely. kitty pryde from x-men is the weakest in her comic and she STILL phased right through the planet itself. hirudegarn is low tier. his mist mode is reflexive and since hes a dumb beast he cant spam it at the right precise moments. unlike a logia, whos real body is their element, hirudegarn is nearly always in his lumbering physical body. he even tripped over a building which let him get all shot up by ssj3 gotenks. imagine if that was vegetto. this insect would be dead. he wasnt even in his final form meaning if hes so invincible in mist mode how come he had to transform? why was he defeated by someone when he tripped and fell on a building? why not mist mode through everything? how weak do you ahve to be when your main unique power besides being big and punching peple is not even used when it was truly needed?
Try beating a goddamn illusion. He would destroy all the other Intangible users.
try beating someone whos consciousness exists in the astral plane and only creates physical bodies so he can actually be present in the storyline.
try beating someone whos the embodiment of a law of physics and is like trying to kill the fabric of reality itself.
try beating someone whos the embodiment of god and can defy logic itself.
He would destroy all the other Intangible users
ok. demonstrate what you know about hellmaster fibrizo, martian manhunter, elder god demonbane, TTGL etc. to prove how dbz is superior to them you have to know what their opponents are capable of. and bring facts, bring youtube clips of him staying in phased mode for more than a few seconds. bring proof i should even count him as a canon character and not ignore his movie as a what if timeline.
 

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So if you feel that way about the Japanese Dub why are you keep on saying that the goddamn Funimation Dub is wrong!!? And you keep on referring to the Japanese Dub!!?
because it is wrong. so is the anime. the manga is also not that well written. there are plot holes galore and one dimensional characters as well as heavily neglected characters. you probably dont care about yamchas character. no surprise there as neither does his creator
 

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that invalidates him being strongest character in anime because thats what some characters in anime are capable of, ending everything with a thought. lord of nightmares. satan from bastard! the reason they dont is because they are either outright trickster gods who just want to have fun and watch chaos, or neutral jerk gods who forbid themselves from getting involved.
you contradicted yourself. you said being a god is boring if they are omnipotent and kill everyone they like with a thought. therefore if bils is that powerful, he looks like a fukin dumbass overhyped villain for not being able to succeed in his plans and defeat everything in his path. you dont hype someone as unbeatable then dont have them back it up without it being proof he isnt so great after all.
either he can and looks like a weak loser for not doing so, or he cant and he still looks like a weak loser. you overhyped him

mist is a physical gaseous aspect. he is still in the physical world. show me proof its an illusion. if you can become an illusion then your non coporeal, and your real body was never in the real world at all. hirudegarn is a dumb ox who only uses said intangibility as a reflexive defence and in the end, dies because his real body was hit and not the illusion. you say hes invincible yet he cant even stay in his mist mode for more than a few seconds. most users of this technique can stay in it almost indefinitely. kitty pryde from x-men is the weakest in her comic and she STILL phased right through the planet itself. hirudegarn is low tier. his mist mode is reflexive and since hes a dumb beast he cant spam it at the right precise moments. unlike a logia, whos real body is their element, hirudegarn is nearly always in his lumbering physical body. he even tripped over a building which let him get all shot up by ssj3 gotenks. imagine if that was vegetto. this insect would be dead. he wasnt even in his final form meaning if hes so invincible in mist mode how come he had to transform? why was he defeated by someone when he tripped and fell on a building? why not mist mode through everything? how weak do you ahve to be when your main unique power besides being big and punching peple is not even used when it was truly needed?

try beating someone whos consciousness exists in the astral plane and only creates physical bodies so he can actually be present in the storyline.
try beating someone whos the embodiment of a law of physics and is like trying to kill the fabric of reality itself.
try beating someone whos the embodiment of god and can defy logic itself.

ok. demonstrate what you know about hellmaster fibrizo, martian manhunter, elder god demonbane, TTGL etc. to prove how dbz is superior to them you have to know what their opponents are capable of. and bring facts, bring youtube clips of him staying in phased mode for more than a few seconds. bring proof i should even count him as a canon character and not ignore his movie as a what if timeline.

Invalid. Bills did defeat everything in his path and he couldn't destroy the earth because of his stamina limit. Bills Master could of easily of destroyed the earth but he and his student are not PURE evil. If you say Omnipotents are the most powerful, and that they can do anything, why do you say they can do this and that when you could say that they would end everything with just their voice and they will say die and the opponent dies? I'm not over hyping anyone, Bills is the strongest Anime character whether you like it or not. Goku stated that Hirudegarn turned himself into a illusion when he was getting stomped. But the thing is, Hiru has a real body and he can turn himself non corporeal by using his Intangibility. He dosen't need to stay in his Mist form every time because he's so fast and he has to go tangible to hit anyway, and his Mist does make him invincible. The Dragon Fist killed Hiru because it hit his real body, not the illusion.
 

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Invalid. Bills did defeat everything in his path and he couldn't destroy the earth because of his stamina limit
having a limit = not all powerful and thus not strongest anime character. and like i said the fact he didnt snap his fingers and erase z fighters from existence also demonstrates he has a limit.
Master could of easily of destroyed the earth but he and his student are not PURE evil.
so wait first you say he failed because he didnt have enough power, nwo your saying he spared earth because hes not evil?

If you say Omnipotents are the most powerful, and that they can do anything, why do you say they can do this and that when you could say that they would end everything with just their voice and they will say die and the opponent dies?
thats what ive BEEN saying. omnipotents are called that because no limitations exist on their abilities. they truly COULD end the universe with a thought. but in fiction theres never been an omnipotent whos evil enough to want to. why destroy what you created yourself?
the fact limits exist on bils means hes not as strong as someone who invented the very concept of reality.

bils is the strongest Anime character whether you like it or not.
yet he resorted to punching people to win his battles. meaning hes too weak not to. do you think tengen toppa guren lagen was hitting people? no he was picking up and throwing galaxies, and controlling massive amounts of spiral energy. like a god would.

Goku stated that Hirudegarn turned himself into a illusion
now your just making shit up. no he didnt. show me evidence of this. wait you cant
But the thing is, Hiru has a real body and he can turn himself non corporeal by using his Intangibility.
wrong. he turns himself BRIEFLY into a mist-like form. no different than the logia eaters on one piece.
non coporeals and intangibles are entierly different and in different classes of power.
non coporeal - a ghost. or a being whos true form resides in the astral plane like onslaught from marvel. they had no real physical bodies to begin with
intangible - obito, kitty pryde, vision. in other words they can let their bodies pass through attacks and objects without sustaining injury but must solidify in order to land hits on opponents.
hirudegarn only appplies to the latter.

He dosen't need to stay in his Mist form every time because he's so fast and he has to go tangible to hit anyway,
yes so fast he fell on a building like a clumsy ox and got himself shot the fuk up by gotenks

his Mist does make him invincible
yet you just said he cant stay in that form for an extended period of time. so what good is being "invincible" if you are only invincible for a few seconds? as i said he wasnt able to "phase" through the skyscraper. instead he tripped and fell on it. meaning he cant go mist form on command due to being nothing more than a reflexive lumbering monster.
 

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having a limit = not all powerful and thus not strongest anime character. and like i said the fact he didnt snap his fingers and erase z fighters from existence also demonstrates he has a limit.

so wait first you say he failed because he didnt have enough power, nwo your saying he spared earth because hes not evil?


thats what ive BEEN saying. omnipotents are called that because no limitations exist on their abilities. they truly COULD end the universe with a thought. but in fiction theres never been an omnipotent whos evil enough to want to. why destroy what you created yourself?
the fact limits exist on bils means hes not as strong as someone who invented the very concept of reality.

yet he resorted to punching people to win his battles. meaning hes too weak not to. do you think tengen toppa guren lagen was hitting people? no he was picking up and throwing galaxies, and controlling massive amounts of spiral energy. like a god would.

now your just making shit up. no he didnt. show me evidence of this. wait you cant
wrong. he turns himself BRIEFLY into a mist-like form. no different than the logia eaters on one piece.
non coporeals and intangibles are entierly different and in different classes of power.
non coporeal - a ghost. or a being whos true form resides in the astral plane like onslaught from marvel. they had no real physical bodies to begin with
intangible - obito, kitty pryde, vision. in other words they can let their bodies pass through attacks and objects without sustaining injury but must solidify in order to land hits on opponents.
hirudegarn only appplies to the latter.


yes so fast he fell on a building like a clumsy ox and got himself shot the fuk up by gotenks

yet you just said he cant stay in that form for an extended period of time. so what good is being "invincible" if you are only invincible for a few seconds? as i said he wasnt able to "phase" through the skyscraper. instead he tripped and fell on it. meaning he cant go mist form on command due to being nothing more than a reflexive lumbering monster.

Bills is still the strongest Anime character even though he has a limit. His power is held in another Dimenison so no other character can compete with the God's power. No, i'm saying that if Bills really wanted to destroy the earth, his Master would of done so. Bills is not pure evil like Frieza, Kid Buu, Janemba, Broly, etc
Bills Master creates Universes as stated in the Chozenshuu so the creating from Omnipotents have gone out of the window.
You haven't said that Omnipotents would kill everyone with speech, all you say is that they will do this and that but have they really done so? Like i say that Janemba created a clone of Goku because he's actually done it and then you'll say that a Omnipotent will create 1000 clones but they haven't actually done it so you can't say they'll do this and that. If you really believed a Omnipotent could do anything and was the most powerful you would repeat and say every time when a character is matched up against one, "The Omnipotent character will say die and the character dies"
Like i said, no matter how big the destructing capacity is Bills won't get hurt by nothing. Throwing Galaxies at him would be useless. Again, it would be all too easy if Bills ended everything with his voice so he has to kick and punch, but then again it's still a piece of cake for him. Goku stated that it's like fighting a illusion when he was getting wrecked by Hiru in the Japanese dub. You can't disagree with that dub. Nope, what so amazing is that Hiru has a real physical body and he can turn himself non corporeal by his Intangibility! Hiru defused Gotenks with just one punch! His Mist makes him truly invincible.
 
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His power is held in another Dimenison so no other character can compete with the God's powe
so is alot of other characters.
guren lagen lifts up and throws galaxies. show me evidence bils cna match this. he cant. kami tenchi creates dimensions at will. satan made a mini universe in his hand and destroyed a galaxy by flying past it
Bills Master creates Universes as stated in the Chozenshuu
then bils isnt the strongest, that guy is

the creating from Omnipotents have gone out of the window.
omnipotents cna do anything. multiverse creation is child's play for them

You haven't said that Omnipotents would kill everyone with speech, all you say is that they will do this and that but have they really done so?
yes. actually. omnipotents or close to it have literally ended people by taking their souls with a thought. soul rip bypasses all durability. the reason why omnipotents dont rape any villain they see is because they usually dont want to

Like i say that Janemba created a clone of Goku because he's actually done it and then you'll say that a Omnipotent will create 1000 clones but they haven't actually done it so you can't say they'll do this and that
what do you mean they havent done it? do you even watch the series im talking about? kami tenchi was causing the universe to shake just by his presence alone and then destroyed a multiversal entity by kissing her. his weaker avatar overpowered a black hole.

If you really believed a Omnipotent could do anything and was the most powerful you would repeat and say every time when a character is matched up against one, "The Omnipotent character will say die and the character dies"
which they are more than capable of. thats what omnipotent means. power without limit or rules. completely unstoppable.

Like i said, no matter how big the destructing capacity is Bills won't get hurt by nothing. Throwing Galaxies at him would be useless.
why would it be useless? has he survived an attack of that level? if so show me him doing so. whats that? you cant? then why make shit up and give someone feats he doesnt have?
by your logic i can go "theres an invisible pink elephant in your room. prove there isnt" you cant do it. your claims can only be proven true using factual evidence. show me he can survive an attack of that magnitude.

Again, it would be all too easy if Bills ended everything with his voice so he has to kick and punch,
and thus he isnt god or even all that strong. i dont care if it would be too easy. for some characters it really is that easy. like elder god demonbane. he was able to make infinite clones of himself, ie sumnoning every single alternate timeline self. you are stil yet to prove bils could do the things you say he can do. do i have to bring up my invisible elephant example?
either you have to realise that the fact he has to kick and punch peopel instead of turning goku into a teacup means hes not god, or you have to realise your makign shit up and making dbz seem stronger than its been demonstrated to be. demonstrate the feats. dont just say them

Goku stated that it's like fighting a illusion
so that means it was an illusion? talk about misinterpreting dialogue. it was like fighting an illusion because he couldnt hit him. once he figured out how to hit him he did so. its never stated by anyone he actually was becoming an illusory astral entity

Nope, what so amazing is that Hiru has a real physical body and he can turn himself non corporeal by his Intangibility!
again you contradicted yourself. non coporeal and intanigble mean entirely different things and are different superpowers in concept and practice. so no he cant turn non coporeal. because otherwise we wouldnt be able to see him at all

Hiru defused Gotenks with just one punch! His Mist makes him truly invincible.
and yet he died easily by one punch. hes fodder compared to kami tenchi. and anyway its conjecture because hes non canon and no one cares about filler. resorting to fillers as your proof proves how desperate you are. battle of gods cant even be considered poweerful by its own merit. you have to draw from material that couldnt possibly have happened in the main timeline
 

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so is alot of other characters.
guren lagen lifts up and throws galaxies. show me evidence bils cna match this. he cant. kami tenchi creates dimensions at will. satan made a mini universe in his hand and destroyed a galaxy by flying past it

then bils isnt the strongest, that guy is

omnipotents cna do anything. multiverse creation is child's play for them


yes. actually. omnipotents or close to it have literally ended people by taking their souls with a thought. soul rip bypasses all durability. the reason why omnipotents dont rape any villain they see is because they usually dont want to

what do you mean they havent done it? do you even watch the series im talking about? kami tenchi was causing the universe to shake just by his presence alone and then destroyed a multiversal entity by kissing her. his weaker avatar overpowered a black hole.


which they are more than capable of. thats what omnipotent means. power without limit or rules. completely unstoppable.


why would it be useless? has he survived an attack of that level? if so show me him doing so. whats that? you cant? then why make shit up and give someone feats he doesnt have?
by your logic i can go "theres an invisible pink elephant in your room. prove there isnt" you cant do it. your claims can only be proven true using factual evidence. show me he can survive an attack of that magnitude.


and thus he isnt god or even all that strong. i dont care if it would be too easy. for some characters it really is that easy. like elder god demonbane. he was able to make infinite clones of himself, ie sumnoning every single alternate timeline self. you are stil yet to prove bils could do the things you say he can do. do i have to bring up my invisible elephant example?
either you have to realise that the fact he has to kick and punch peopel instead of turning goku into a teacup means hes not god, or you have to realise your makign shit up and making dbz seem stronger than its been demonstrated to be. demonstrate the feats. dont just say them


so that means it was an illusion? talk about misinterpreting dialogue. it was like fighting an illusion because he couldnt hit him. once he figured out how to hit him he did so. its never stated by anyone he actually was becoming an illusory astral entity


again you contradicted yourself. non coporeal and intanigble mean entirely different things and are different superpowers in concept and practice. so no he cant turn non coporeal. because otherwise we wouldnt be able to see him at all


and yet he died easily by one punch. hes fodder compared to kami tenchi. and anyway its conjecture because hes non canon and no one cares about filler. resorting to fillers as your proof proves how desperate you are. battle of gods cant even be considered poweerful by its own merit. you have to draw from material that couldnt possibly have happened in the main timeline

Invalid. Only Bills power is in another Dimenison, stated by the Chozenshuu. No other character has power like Bills other than his Master. We don't know anything about Bills Master so we can't say anything about him. He's still a mysterious character. I still can't figure out how a Omnipotent character would be a character that was invulnerable, impregnable, and invincible. Bills can't be touched, it's as simple as that. Any attack directed a Bills would be useless because people like you don't know what invulnerable means, and then you state the durability of the character. Bills durability dosen't matter because he's invulnerable, it's IMPOSSIBLE to harm or damage Bills so not even a Omniverse level attack wouldn't work on invulnerable beings. Bills could turn everyone to sand by touch if he wanted too, but it would be so easy for him already, why make it so easy when he dismantled everyone already? Hiru does turn into a illusion when he's in his Mist form, and he can turn non corporeal for a moment when he's turns into Mist, he get's rid of his real body. it wasn't just one pouch, it was a KO technique called the Dragon Fist! That would end mostly anyone. Bills is the strongest Anime character.
 

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lol I just randomly came across this thread again, even though this lil douchebag is banned, I'm sure he' might still browse as a guest or whatever, but since I'm bored let me write something Lel

We don't know anything about Bills Master so we can't say anything about him.

Invalid u useless child, u just previously stated urself that whiss can create universes according to ur own precastorous claim, so which makes whiss more power ful then bills, common sense actually, u tell me? What's more impressive, destruction or creation?

I still can't figure out how a Omnipotent character would be a character that was invulnerable, impregnable, and invincible.

lol it's because ur an idiot, they ALREADY ARE!! Since they're omnipotent.....sake!

Bills can't be touched

Goku touched him...

it's as simple as that.

No it isn't noob

Any attack directed a Bills would be useless because people like you don't know what invulnerable means

Attacks? Ohh Fack that shit man, when ur homie omnipotents can physically erase ur presence by closing and opening their eyes, or put him in a state or dimensions in which one second= trillions of years ...countless wins by BFR standards ..

Bills durability dosen't matter because he's invulnerable, it's IMPOSSIBLE to harm or damage Bills so not even a Omniverse level attack wouldn't work on invulnerable beings.

And.....u.....just.....went......full......retard, seriously that's only ur own personal claim, which won't be supported anywhere, since bills is known to have a physical body, made of flesh, cells and atoms/molucules organs whatever, ever heard of tempretures below absolute zero? Which 0 on the Kelvin scale and all molecules become unmovable, yeah kami tenchi is omnipotent, he freezes the galaxy below absolute zero LOOL

And even so, tenchi just creates a dimension in which time is completely distorted and gravity level are highly altered, meaning a dimension in which even a pico second will be equivelent to trillions of years in the original supposed universe...

Or sends him into another time space....or throws him across the multiple dimesnions collapsed over one another, where he won't be able to return from..

So overall, fodderills is fodder compared to omni/nigh omni gods, reality warpers, cosmic anomalies, omnipresent and all knowing gods ...

Bills is the strongest Anime character.

And yet u don't understand the concept of omnipotents and mulitversal really warpers who can literally erase u on an atomic level by just blinking..and can create Multiverses without even doing shit..
 
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lol I just randomly came across this thread again, even though this lil douchebag is banned, I'm sure he' might still browse as a guest or whatever, but since I'm bored let me write something Lel



Invalid u useless child, u just previously stated urself that whiss can create universes according to ur own precastorous claim, so which makes whiss more power ful then bills, common sense actually, u tell me? What's more impressive, destruction or creation?



lol it's because ur an idiot, they ALREADY ARE!! Since they're omnipotent.....sake!



Goku touched him...



No it isn't noob



Attacks? Ohh Fack that shit man, when ur homie omnipotents can physically erase ur presence by closing and opening their eyes, or put him in a state or dimensions in which one second= trillions of years ...countless wins by BFR standards ..



And.....u.....just.....went......full......retard, seriously that's only ur own personal claim, which won't be supported anywhere, since bills is known to have a physical body, made of flesh, cells and atoms/molucules organs whatever, ever heard of tempretures below absolute zero? Which 0 on the Kelvin scale and all molecules become unmovable, yeah kami tenchi is omnipotent, he freezes the galaxy below absolute zero LOOL

And even so, tenchi just creates a dimension in which time is completely distorted and gravity level are highly altered, meaning a dimension in which even a pico second will be equivelent to trillions of years in the original supposed universe...

Or sends him into another time space....or throws him across the multiple dimesnions collapsed over one another, where he won't be able to return from..

So overall, fodderills is fodder compared to omni/nigh omni gods, reality warpers, cosmic anomalies, omnipresent and all knowing gods ...



And yet u don't understand the concept of omnipotents and mulitversal really warpers who can literally erase u on an atomic level by just blinking..and can create Multiverses without even doing shit..

I would rep you but i have to spread it around first lol.


Pokemon? Never thought of that. Shouldn't Demonbane be above Gurren Lagann? I'm not too familiar with Demonbane but i heard the guy killed an omnipotent being 400 times just by staring at it. OP!!!
 
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lol thanks son,

And yeah overall the Pokemon verse has notable amounts of hax included, concerning the legendary Pokemons, especially Arcues who's nigh omnipotent and above universal+

Yeah demonbane is above guren Lagan, he can summon infinite amount of big bangs, and overall is highly broken, but pretty much since the list is outdated, seeing as how it's a 2012 thread Lel ..



Troll bait, Lel, I just went over the previous page and I find this guy making shit which is to damn hard to ignore, since I have nothing to do right now, lets educate this banned tard furthermore..


Bills is still the strongest Anime character even though he has a limit

Kami tenchi has no limits, from any structure, he's practically limitless...and bills doesnt have one limitations to qualify him as the strongest, in fact he has many...

He has a physical body
Possibly a soul
A mind
Can't reality warp, doesn't have infinite powers
Doesn't even have infinite speed, far from omnipresent
Neither is omniscient
Can't create or recreate shit
Can't change probability
Can't create dimensions
Can't create Multiverses

^^ and omnipotents can do all this by closing and opening their eyes, so bills so called haveing one limit goes out the fukin window...

Bills Master creates Universes as stated in the Chozenshuu so the creating from Omnipotents have gone out of the window.

A weaker god then tenchi aka lord of nightmares created multiple universes out of boredom, and it's basically child play for them perform this level of feat....

You haven't said that Omnipotents would kill everyone with speech, all you say is that they will do this and that but have they really done so?

Ofc they can, since they're omnipotents (meaning limitless power, the ability TO DO ANYTHING Christ), just cause goku never blew up a planet doesn't mean he can't, it's obvious really, since mostly powerscaling can be taken of from weaker characters to superior ones to quantify their feats..

Like i say that Janemba created a clone of Goku because he's actually done it and then you'll say that a Omnipotent will create 1000 clones but they haven't actually done it so you can't say they'll do this and that.

Way too much fail here, a nigh omnipotent being created many universes, and it's child play for an omnipotent actually, and creating a clone is a feat? Lmao! It's hard to tell whether ur retarded, or had a brain transplant with an idiot..

Invalid. Bills did defeat everything in his path and he couldn't destroy the earth because of his stamina limit.

U contradicted urself here, first u say this, then u say he didnt cause he's not evil like the other antagonists.

Bills is the strongest Anime character whether you like it or not.

Who the fuk wanks a purple cat? Anyways back in reality, no! Since his many limitations doesn't allow him to be, and he doesn't have practically anything that can call him the strongest anime character, hence he got owned by a slap from whiss, thus his real physical body was affected, and he hasn't shown immunity, and YJ+ amount of strike sent him flying into a nice soft sleep, calls him far from being invulranble as u said he is..
 
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Lmao aw man Pokemon characters ??? Better than super sayin 4 goku sounds funny to me bro . I've seen tenchi muyo but damn they barely fight in that anime ... Funny list.
 

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1st form frieza has the power to effortlessly destory planets.

final form frieza more than 200times stronger, as second form double first form, and final form 100 times his final form at 1% (obvious)

SSJ Goku - slightly stronger

Ascended SSJ Vegeta atleast 3 times stonger than super saiyan.

Half of Goku Full-powered SSJ was enough to scare Ascended SSJ vegeta. Lets assume 2x.

SSJ2 Gohan was double FSSJ Gohan who was slightly stronger than Goku.

SSJ3 Goku 4 times stronger than his SSJ2 form which was slightly stronger than teen Gohan's SSJ2 form. Battled Kid Buu on equal terms.

Goku spent 10 years training and then a number of years training with Uub, and was able to battle Uub on equal terms and defeat him while in his normal state. As SSJ is 50x base, SSJ2 is 2x SSJ and SSJ3 is 4x SSJ2. Goku is now 400x stronger than Kid Buu orginally was.

SSJ4 is similar to 10x SSJ3 as it is basically the Oozaru form.

Now SSJ4 Gogeta adds the powers together, lets assume SSJ4 Vegeta and Goku were similar.

If we go through and add all that shit up, not counting all the "slightly stronger" we see that SSJ4 Gogeta is 38.4million times stronger than first form Frieza, who blew up the saiyan world effortlessly and was basically ruler of the Northern quadrant of the universe. SSJ4 Gogeta deserves a place on this list.
 

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This list is highly outdated anyways, the recent top 20 can be filled with people who can causally rape the dbz verse

but still the the number 20 on the list rapes anyone from dragon, she can lock and BFR people through other universes and Mulitiverses and has mindfukery, she can shut down their brain...and has over universal level durability

Even so, and is non-corporeal..
 

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my opinion only

1. kami tenchi (tenchi muyo)
omnipotent omnipresent and all knowing god. cant be killed or harmed in any way

2. lord of nightmares (slayers)
omnipotent omnipresent and all knowing god. cant be killed or harmed in any way

3. Kami (Bastard!!)
omnipotent

4. zeedmilleniumon (digimon)
Can manipulate time, can manipulate dimensions and universes

5. Haruka Kaminogi
Controls reality on a quantum level, able to choose which things do and don't exist, can substitute people and objects from other universes, can observe timelines from all universes, can absorb/collapse/divide universes, Dragon Torque provides automatic defense, immune to timestops, teleportation across time, space, and dimensions

6. Arceus (Pokemon)
Classification: Alpha Pokemon, The Original One, Creator, God
Near-Omnipotent | Super speed, strength, durability, flight, massive energy generation (enough to distort space-time, inside Arceus' dimension only), elemental and energy attacks, telepathy, transmutation, telekinesis

7. dragon god (Project A-ko)
Universe level reality manipulation, can create black holes, fire, ice and lightning breath, transdimensional travel, incalculable strength, speed and durability
was interrupted from shattering all of the universes in existence after it merged them all into one
FTL+. Hyperspace travel which is already magnitudes faster than light is amazingly slow in comparison to the DG. It had also traveled from the edge to the center of the universe in a matter of seconds

8. Counter Actor (Tenchi Muyo)
Effectively omnipresent
Super speed, super strength, multiversal - level reality warping, capable of countering and overcoming the cosmic powers of the Chousein

9. Z (Tenchi Muyo)
has the power to destroy easily the moon and planets, can destroy high tech space fleets, teleportation, time travel, dimensional travel and travel across universes, able to erase matter and energy from existence, able to recreate things he has destroyed or damaged, ability to negate others' regeneration, cut through dimensions, create and uncreate black holes, crush targets into singularities or into nothing, paralyze large groups of enemies, attack things from other dimensions and pull them through dimensions

10. Apollo (Saint Seiya)
Classification: Olympian Champion/God of Light and the Sun
Manifesting the Divine or Big Will, 7th and 8th Senses, reality warping, cross-dimensional telepathy, telekinesis and perceptions, superhuman strength, superhuman speed, energy and matter manipulation, illusion manipulation and creation, energy blasts/shields, atomic reconstruction and destruction, Massively FTL, shrugged off attacks from Seiya who burned his Cosmos to divine levels which could hurt even the Kamui of Hades and Apollo took this unflinchingly despite not wearing his own), with a hand wave reset and restarted the entire universe and allowed for Seiya and Athena to live together

12. Anti Spiral (TTGL)
speed, durability, reality warping, dimensional travel/creation/destruction, telepathy, teleportation, matter/energy manipulation, illusion creation, regeneration, Immeasurable strength(capable of grabbing and throwing galaxies like shurikens)

13. Palkia (Pokemon)
casually creates universes.

14. Satan (Bastard!)
, time/space manipulation, ability to move in stopped time, needs to have his atoms destroyed on physical/Spiritual/Astral levels at once to be killed (Eternal Atoms), can kill others with Eternal Atoms, Dispel Bound - a number of a regenerating shields that block various effects/abilities, some knowledge on the powers of creation, size manipulation, regeneration (likely low godly), teleportation
he created a mini universe in his hand casually while in base
casually blitzed a Seraphim class who are also FTL in base alone, possibly higher
he can grow to the size of a Galaxy
Has knowledge on the powers of creation

15. Haruhi Suzumiya
Universal level reality warper, make whatever she wants happen, omnipresent.
Created unconsciously dimensions usually no larger than a few city blocks, which are similar to the areas they overlap in the normal universe, except they are uninhabited and blue giant creatures exist in them, that rampage and cause destruction.
Universe Reset: the old universe will slowly fade away and be replaced with a new one.
Reality Alteration: Subconscious desires can cause changes to manifest in the current universe without resetting it, such as creating things, giving certain beings powers, altering the location of things, manipulating time, etc.
Capable of create time loops, by segmenting time this makes also impossible to time travel.

16. TTGL (TTGL)
universal level destructive power, punches and sword swipes cross the lengths of several galaxies. With its rifle, it could potentially have universal range
Abilities: Super strength, speed, durability, agility, energy absorption, energy projection, manifestation of various weapons, reality warping, regeneration, size changing, dimensional travel, teleportation, probability manipulation, etc
Massively FTL (but offset somewhat by its huge size); at least 100 trillion times the speed of light
Strength: Immeasurable (being 10 billion light - years across helps)
Lord Genome uses Lazengan to absorb the energy of an attack and convert it into extra power for TTGL. Absorbed the Anti-Spirals Infinity Big Bang Storm, which had the power of the Big Bang

17. majin dark schneider (Bastard!)
can survive with his whole body decapitated, can also withstand the side effects of the Judas pain which makes it's user experience spiritual, emotional and physical pain beyond measure, can summon various creatures such as a golem weighing 100,000 tons, can create and manipulate fire exceeding temperatures of 20,000°C, regeneration on an atomic level, multiple magical force fields used to ban enemy attacks. immortality - can't be killed if his body, spirit and soul aren't destroyed at the same time, poison resistance, can travel along the astral plane to infiltrate people’s minds and dreams, incredibly skilled in the use of illusions, is able to absorb matter around him and turn it into energy, can break dimensions, can create beings from memories.
destroyed the Black Abyss, a supermassive black hole (also the entrance to Hell) in the center of the galaxy. about 7,000 times faster than light.
can use magical nuke reaching many millions of degrees Celsius, and sends the opponent into another dimension. Without control, it's a spell that could potentially destroy planets.
can Destroy the eternal atoms of the target (attacks atoms on physical, astral and spiritual level), not only matter but also spiritual and ethereal bodies. It's basically a soul destroying attack erasing the target from existence. Summons bacteria from the deepest circles of Hell, surrounding the target and immediately destroying him at the cellular level.

18. elder god demonbane (Demonbane
Strongest Mecha in existence
destroyed a universe
He can make immpossible things happen

19. Gemini Saga (Saint Seiya)
telepathy (cross-dimensional level), telekinesis, illusion creation/dispelling, invisibility, space and dimension warping to redirect attacks or create recurring loops to trap opponents, energy blasts (that can home in on the enemy from afar and different dimensions), generation of sunlight into attacks, dimensional/galaxy level destructive power, Gold Saints are stated to be able to maintain fights with each other for 1000 days, creates an explosion or blast that at best has a power equal to the destruction of an entire galaxy, Athena Exclamation which emulates the Big Bang in a lesser scale

20. Hellmaster Phibrizzo (Slayers)
Soul manipulation, energy projection, telepathy, telekinesis, high level necromancy, (can animate the entire population of a city perfectly so they seemed to be as they where before death) low level reality warping, dimensional manipulation, high level magic, teleportation of himself and others, Illusions (can project an image of him self which can interact with the physical world as if it was real), non-corporeal, possession, mind****, immortality, can trap people and objects in other universes/multiverses

now do people understand why they are on my list?

Just out of interest, are any of these Anime's any good? Never heard of any of them and just wondering if any of them are worth giving a shot.
 

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Just out of interest, are any of these Anime's any good?
eh probably. ive only seen noein

SSJ4 is similar to 10x SSJ3 as it is basically the Oozaru form.
fanfiction. you have no way of knowing if ssj4 stacks up from ssj3. you said it yourself its not even truly ssj4,just mastered oozaru controlled into human size. so it should be 10x base or 10x the ssj1.
Ascended SSJ Vegeta atleast 3 times stonger than super saiyan.
fanfiction. no proof

Pokemon characters ??? Better than super sayin 4 goku sounds funny to me bro
do some research into them and maybe it wont be so strange. pokemon isnt just populated by street level fodders. someone had to have created said fodders

we see that SSJ4 Gogeta is 38.4million times stronger than first form Frieza, who blew up the saiyan world effortlessly
that still just makes him multi star level. do yo know how many TRILLIONS of planets are in a galaxy?

Goku spent 10 years training and then a number of years training with Uub, and was able to battle Uub on equal terms and defeat him while in his normal state.
non canon and actually uub was massively above goku in every way. ssj3 goku struggled with baby vegeta. uub stood his ground on almost equal terms for quite a while and even knocked baby into a freaking wall. its obvious from their little skirmish at the startof the series that uub was exhausted from all his other training and unable to whoop his mentor's ass
 

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Why isn't Goku-sama on the list?!?! :T_T:
 
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