[Discussion] top 10 strongest everything

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There is just that much developement in the story ^.^

One Piece is only half-way over!!!!

Anyways, I guess for the most part good job! I mean not much I can argue with except I'm guessing as far as Strongest Pirates, Doflamingo is probably above first mates considering he was just playing with Jozu like a toy, and Whitebeard's Division commanders were almost all practically First Mates (just how I see it).
fair point , but then he would be above admiral level if he is above the first mates, which i definitely think is not the case.

he didn't want to mess with Kuzan , either meaning he knows he would lose , even die , or that he would be pointlessly fighting , but definitely no chance of winning that battle
 

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we havent seen him , so i just randomised how strong big mam and kaidou are :p
Yeah, I completely understand :) But! If Luffy is going to fight each individual Yonko, they can't be evenly strong obviously, or else there won't be any progression in strength, things will just stall. And since it seems like Kaidou is the first one he will fight, I'm guessing he's the weakest :) Again, it's just a guess :)
 

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Yeah, I completely understand :) But! If Luffy is going to fight each individual Yonko, they can't be evenly strong obviously, or else there won't be any progression in strength, things will just stall. And since it seems like Kaidou is the first one he will fight, I'm guessing he's the weakest :) Again, it's just a guess :)
yeah but then it is boring to fight in ascending strength , need some variation , if BB is the final yonkou , shanks falls before him , either BB develops his own strength and surpasses shanks or the strength will vary between yonkou , i would prefer it if kaidou was second
 

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yeah but then it is boring to fight in ascending strength , need some variation , if BB is the final yonkou , shanks falls before him , either BB develops his own strength and surpasses shanks or the strength will vary between yonkou , i would prefer it if kaidou was second
Well, that just comes down to taste, since I would rather see it the way I described it :D But yes, I do think that BB will be the strongest of the Yonko by the end.
 

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lots of top ten lists(all opinionated , each to his own):
I'm glad you did this. Some people think they're lists are perfect.



OT: (According to me):
strongest(all at the peak of their strength):
1.Gol D Roger
2.Edward Newgate
3.Monkey D Dragon
4.Monkey D Garp
5.Akegami Shanks
6.Kaidou
7.Big Mam
8.Marshall D. Teach
9.Silvers Rayleigh
10.Sengoku
1. Roger
2. Garp
3. Garp/WB
4. Rayleigh
5. Shanks/Gorosei (each of the elders are equal IMO)/Dragon/Kong
6. " "
7. " "
8. " "
9. Kaido
10. Akainu
11. Mihawk
12. BM/Aokiji/Kizaru/Sengoku
strongest (present day):
1.Monkey D. Dragon
2.Akegami Shanks
3.Kaidou
4.Big Mam
5.Marshall D. Teach
6.Sakuzaki Akainu
7.Issho Fujitora
8.Borsalino Kizaru
9.Kuzan Aokiji
10.Mihawk or Rayleigh
1. Shanks/Gorosei/Dragon/Kong
2. " "
3. " "
4. " "
5. Kaido
6. Akainu
7. Mihawk
8. BM/Aokiji/Kizaru
9. " "
10. " "
Strongest(confirmed deceased):
1.Gol D Roger
2.Edward Newgate
3.Zephyr (is he cannon? i'm not sure)
4.Portgas D Ace
5.Vergo
6.Monet

7.Thatch(educated guess)
@Zephyr: The events of the movie aren't but he himself is.

@Monet & Vergo: Could you please tell me where I can read the chapter & page which shows that they have both truly died. Since I have not read that anywhere, nor in any forum which proves they are both undoubtedly dead. Thanks.




Strongest Marines (present day):
1.Monkey D Garp
2.Sengoku
3.Sakuzaki Akainu
4.Issho Fujitora
5.Borsalino Kizaru
1. Garp
2. Akainu
3. Kizaru
4. Fujitora
5. Sengoku

Strongest pirates (present):
1.Akegami Shanks
2.Kaidou
3.Big Mam
4.Marshall D Teach
5.Dracule Mihawk
6.Ben Beckmann
7.Marco
8.Kaidou's first mate
9.Big Mam's first mate
10.Donquixote Doflamingo
1. Shanks
2. Kaido
3. Mihawk
4. BM
5. Beckman/Marco
6. " "
7. Kaido's FM
8. BM's FM
9. BB
10. Doffy
Strongest Devil Fruit Powers:
1.Yami Yami No Mi
2.Gura Gura No Mi
3.Dragons devil fruit power
4.Hito Hito No Mi Model:Daibatsu
5.Kaidous devil fruit power
6.Goro Goro No Mi
7.Magu Magu No Mi
8.Fujitoras devil fruit power
9.Pika Pika No Mi
10.Hie Hie No Mi/Ope Ope No Mi/Doflamingo's devil fruit power
@B Where's it been stated they have a DF?
1. Marco's
2. Enel's
3. WB's
4. Akainu's
5. Kizaru's
6. Aokiji's
7. BB's
8. BB's
9. Laws/Doffy's/Sengoku's
10. " "
11. " "


Strongest Non Devil Fruit Users (at the peak of their strength):
1.Gol D Roger
2.Akegami Shanks
3.Gol D Roger
4.Silvers Rayleigh
5.Dracule Mihawk
6.Ben Beckmann
7.Momonga
8.Onigumo
9.Stainless
10.Strawberry
(if big mam has no DF she goes 4th)
Why are there 2 Roger's? Garp should be second And it's not canon that Roger & Garp haven't consumed one. For all we know, he could've eaten the King-King fruit and Garp could've consumed the Fist-Fist fruit (hence; Garp the "first").






EDIT:
This is my EoS list:

1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Sanji
4. Roger & Akainu
5. Garp
6. Garp/WB
7. BB
8. Coby
9. Kizaru/Dragon/Gorosei/Kong
10. " "





Strongest mastery of Haki (individual):

CotSK: Luffy
CoA: Zoro
CoO: Sanji &/ Coby
 
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In strongest of all time you put Garp above Shanks but in the Non DF list Garp isnt even there,I thought he was just a Haki user :S
my mistake :| whoops , yeah garp above shanks in that list too

EDIT; FIXED :)

I'm glad you did this. Some people think they're lists are perfect.

@Zephyr: The events of the movie aren't but he himself is.

@Monet & Vergo: Could you please tell me where I can read the chapter & page which shows that they have both truly died. Since I have not read that anywhere, nor in any forum which proves they are both undoubtedly dead. Thanks.

Why are there 2 Roger's? Garp should be second And it's not canon that Roger & Garp haven't consumed one. For all we know, he could've eaten the King-King fruit and Garp could've consumed the Fist-Fist fruit (hence; Garp the "first").
zephyr:thanks for clearing that up for me , does that mean the neo-marines are cannon or not? they are not an event :p

Vergo: i am certain of vergo's death , we saw him after he was bifuricated , however i put monet in there because i couldn't think of anyone else dead so i just put her there :|

you raise some good points , but those would be really retarded devil fruits xD
 
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my mistake :| whoops , yeah garp above shanks in that list too

EDIT; FIXED :)


zephyr:thanks for clearing that up for me , does that mean the neo-marines are cannon or not? they are not an event :p

Vergo: i am certain of vergo's death , we saw him after he was bifuricated , however i put monet in there because i couldn't think of anyone else dead so i just put her there :|

you raise some good points , but those would be really retarded devil fruits xD
The Neo-Marines are not canon

If anyone of Vergo and Monet survived, it's definitely Vergo. He had pretty epic CoA, plus Monet got stabbed through the heart. I don't think that's something you come back from :O
 

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Yes, but we literally saw her getting stabbed, if I'm not mistaken. We didn't see how long Pell stayed with the nuke. And Vergo was sliced in half by Law, which actually doesn't mean anything when it comes to death and stuff like that.
he was cut in half , by law yes , but it is only inside his "room" where you can survive being cut in half and diced into little pieces , and this did not take place inside his "room"
 
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