Top 10. [Prime]

[Flawž]

This is top 10 shinobi in their Prime.

• Rikudo and his son's are excluded.
• Edo's are not allowed.
• Edo tensei jutsu is allowed.

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1. Obito Uchiha - Juubi's Jinchuuriki

2. Kabuto yakushi - Edo Army

3. Orochimaru - Edo Hokage

4. Madara uchiha - Senjutsu + Rinnegan

5. hashirama Senju - Senjutsu + Mokuton

6. Naruto uzumaki - BSM + BM + KCM

7. Sasuke Uchiha - PS + Amaterasu + Enton

8. Nagato Uzumaki - Rinnegan + Pain

9. Minato Namikaze - FTG + Sealing specialist + Intelligent

10. Itachi Uchiha - Susano'o + Genjutsu Specialist + Intelligent


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What do you think? Do you agree? Do you disagree?

 

[Champ]

Sasuke supposed to be number 1

 

[Meee]

Id agree, I might swap Hashi and Madz though and I think its weird how Edo's are left out but Kabuto and Oro are allowed to use Edo Tensei.

 

[Europa]

Hiruzen should be tied with first or second.

 

[Flawž]

Id agree, I might swap Hashi and Madz though and I think its weird how Edo's are left out but Kabuto and Oro are allowed to use Edo Tensei.

The jutsu is allowed because it's a jutsu that kabuto and Oro learned and perfected. Being an Edo however deos not count as they have an unfair advantage over someone who is alive.

Hiruzen should be tied with first or second.

I knew someone would bring up hiruzen. lol He got no feats tho. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[NArutouzzi]

oro shouldent be 3rd other then that good list

 

[R4mbl3]

I can agree with this list. Good work.

Edit:
Orochimaru is great and all, But IDK if he is third. I mean above Madara and Hashi.... Well he does have edo hokage so idk.
I guess it could go either way.

 

[Flawž]

oro shouldent be 3rd other then that good list

Who can beat Oro with Minato, Tobirama and Hiruzen as pawns?

 

[KingHashirama]

So many flaws. How do you give Kabuto an army of dead ninja, and then not give Madara and Hashirama the ninja who were under their power?

Legitfully based on their power:


1. Obito

2. Hashirama

3. Madara (Vote Madara is stronger than the current one , unless proven other wise)

4. Naruto/Sasuke

5. Killer B/ Kabuto


Summons have never been counted as part of a person's prime in the manga.

"Prime" in your sense:

- Hashirama- Uchiha clan (including Madara), Senju clan, Sarutobi clan , the Bijuus and other clans under his control.

- Obito - 10-tails jinchuriki

- Madara- Uchiha clan under his control

- Tobirama - near prime Konoha under his control

All the people in the village are part of the Hokage's power, according to Hashirama.

 

[Flawž]

So many flaws. How do you give Kabuto an army of dead ninja, and then not give Madara and Hashirama the ninja who were under their power?

1. Obito

2. Hashirama

3. Madara (Vote Madara is stronger than the current one , unless proven other wise)

4. Naruto/Sasuke

5. Killer B/ Kabuto


Summons have never been counted as part of a person's prime in the manga.

Nah. It's still their powers.

 

[KingHashirama]

Nah. It's still their powers.

Then so are the ninja of the village:

"The fellow countrymen of the Konoha make up each part of my body… those of the village believe in me, and I believe in them… That's what it means to be Hokage!"

^^^^^ Make up each part of his body. Can't say the same for kabuto.

 

[Flawž]

Then so are the ninja of the village:

"The fellow countrymen of the Konoha make up each part of my body… those of the village believe in me, and I believe in them… That's what it means to be Hokage!"

^^^^^ Make up each part of his body. Can't say the same for kabuto.

I can see where your coming from but no that doesn't work that way.

Comrades are not in your arsenal. That's ridiculous. Thats like tsunade having the entire village including kakashi, naruto and gai as her arsenal...

 

[KingHashirama]

I can see where your coming from but no that doesn't work that way.

Comrades are not in your arsenal. That's ridiculous. Thats like tsunade having the entire village including kakashi, naruto and gai as her arsenal...

They are comrades if you consider them to be comrades. Katsuyu is Tsunade's comrade.. but you people believe the summons to be part of their power..

Kurama is Naruto's comrade.. everyone says Kurama is Naruto's power.......

Yea the entire village follows what the Hokage says. If they are strong enough to voice out they will, just like with Edo tensei, if they are strong enough to go against it they will.

 

[Flawž]

They are comrades if you consider them to be comrades. Katsuyu is Tsunade's comrade.. but you people believe the summons to be part of their power..

Kurama is Naruto's comrade.. everyone says Kurama is Naruto's power.......

Yea the entire village follows what the Hokage says. If they are strong enough to voice out they will, just like with Edo tensei, if they are strong enough to go against it they will.

Thats ridiculous.

Comrades = Cannot force them to do what you want. They can object or hesitate.

Edo tensei = can physically force them to do whatever you want no hesitations.

Theres a difference.

 

[KingHashirama]

Thats ridiculous.

Comrades = Cannot force them to do what you want. They can object or hesitate.

Edo tensei = can physically force them to do whatever you want no hesitations.

Theres a difference.

Edo tensei can also object and hesitate.. Hashirama has already done that.. Tobirama could do that if summoned by a non Hashi dna powered summoner.... So what is the point here?

In the end it all comes down to power.. Everyone feared Hashirama and respected him, even Madara joined him....

So are you saying Kurama isn't Naruto's power?

 

[Lightbringer]

Who can beat Oro with Minato, Tobirama and Hiruzen as pawns?

Madara and Hashirama can

I can't think of a move that those three hokage possess that can defeat either PS or Shinsuusenju

at least none that has been shown

 

[Flawž]

Edo tensei can also object and hesitate.. Hashirama has already done that.. Tobirama could do that if summoned by a non Hashi dna powered summoner.... So what is the point here?

In the end it all comes down to power.. Everyone feared Hashirama and respected him, even Madara joined him....

So are you saying Kurama isn't Naruto's power?

Kurama is naruto's power.

Orochimaru can fully control tobirama, Minato and hiruzen by binding them. Hashirama cannot be controlled VIA edo tensei.

Kabuto can fully control all of his edo's. 38 edo's at the same time > Hashirama or madara.

Orochimaru with Hiruzen, tobirama and Minato > Hashirama or madara.

Edo tensei = user's Jutsu they cast. Own power.

Summons = Own power

Comrades = no one's power.

It's simple really.

Madara and Hashirama can

I can't think of a move that those three hokage possess that can defeat either PS or Shinsuusenju

at least none that has been shown

hashirama and madara are haxxed but there is no way they can beat minato, tobirama, hurizen and orochimaru at the same time. ...

 

[China IL]

This is top 10 shinobi in their Prime.

• Rikudo and his son's are excluded.
• Edo's are not allowed.
• Edo tensei jutsu is allowed.

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1. Obito Uchiha - Juubi's Jinchuuriki

2. Kabuto yakushi - Edo Army

3. Orochimaru - Edo Hokage

4. Madara uchiha - Senjutsu + Rinnegan

5. hashirama Senju - Senjutsu + Mokuton

6. Naruto uzumaki - BSM + BM + KCM

7. Sasuke Uchiha - PS + Amaterasu + Enton

8. Nagato Uzumaki - Rinnegan + Pain

9. Minato Namikaze - FTG + Sealing specialist + Intelligent

10. Itachi Uchiha - Susano'o + Genjutsu Specialist + Intelligent


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What do you think? Do you agree? Do you disagree?

Madara is not below Kabuto or Oro. Sasuke also doesn't have PS, I'm not even sure if he should be on this list as of now. I stand my ground!!

 

[Lightbringer]

Kurama is naruto's power.

Orochimaru can fully control tobirama, Minato and hiruzen by binding them. Hashirama cannot be controlled VIA edo tensei.

Kabuto can fully control all of his edo's. 38 edo's at the same time > Hashirama or madara.

Orochimaru with Hiruzen, tobirama and Minato > Hashirama or madara.

Edo tensei = user's Jutsu they cast. Own power.

Summons = Own power

Comrades = no one's power.

It's simple really.



hashirama and madara are haxxed but there is no way they can beat minato, tobirama, hurizen and orochimaru at the same time. ...

I think they can personally

the only thing I'd be worried about is Oro's cunning qualities, but we have not seen jutsu devastating enough to defeat either Hashirama or Madara from them.

Madara's rinnegan would enable him to absorb all of their jutsu which means that Oro's snakes and Minato's kunai would be the only effective tools and that's not enough to break PS.

Hashirama has auto-healing and mokuton clones that only a sharingan can see through......which means he could sneak attack the most dangerous of the group by faking his death a few times like he did with Madara.

not to mention that he usually fights on top of his mokuton mokujin+wood dragon making him be a hard target.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kurama is naruto's power.

Orochimaru can fully control tobirama, Minato and hiruzen by binding them. Hashirama cannot be controlled VIA edo tensei.

Kabuto can fully control all of his edo's. 38 edo's at the same time > Hashirama or madara.

Orochimaru with Hiruzen, tobirama and Minato > Hashirama or madara.

Edo tensei = user's Jutsu they cast. Own power.

Summons = Own power

Comrades = no one's power.

It's simple really.

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But you just said comrades can't be your power. Nagato can summon Konan who is his comrade, so is Konan part of his power or not? Because she can easily defy Nagato any time she wants.. Same for Kurama /Katsuyu/Manda/Gamabunta.. and so on.


How can it be simple, if your logic is contradicted by your statements? And in the end it seems to me that you are going with simply " because i said so" logic..

Sure Orochimaru can have the Edo Hokages.. Hashirama's wood clones can take them on.. and then one can overwhelm Orochimaru himself.


Hashirama cannot be controlled period.. Rikudou can't be controlled either. But i like how you are making them in exceptions, because they went against your logic of "Edos can't break the restrain".. when the manga fact is that they can if they have the power to do so.