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3/10 for your troll attempt.
Calling others troll, because you are hurt, doesn't make your hurtness go away buddy.


1. And you have no proof that he had the disease so leave it that and come back when you have facts to disprove it.

2. umm yes it takes a toll yet nagato still used it in konoha an had enough stamina to revive all of the villager he killed so i don't know what you're getting at nagato can use all abilities in one body to think otherwise is stupid and base on what you said mot of the edos are basically featless.
1. And I'm not claiming there is a diseased Itachi or a healthy Itachi now am i. =]. I'm simply posing questions

2. And wasn't he just resting? Any person who reads Naruto and understands the basis of chakra, is able to know that a person can keep making chakra while they are still. However, when person is fighting, that is a whole different story.

No one is talking about feats.. We are talking about him being able to replicate his Edo performance in his alive state... which has never been shown.
 

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Prime Nagato was the dude fcking the Anbu guys up.

We don't knw anything about Hashi after he murked Madara so for now that's his best.
 

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obviously but what i'm saying he left the village seemingly healthy an ms intact, so healthy itachi did exist.

No. Again, look at the difference in the skill of Sasuke's MS when he first got it, and his Danzo fight.
 

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Calling others troll, because you are hurt, doesn't make your hurtness go away buddy.



1. And I'm not claiming there is a diseased Itachi or a healthy Itachi now am i. =]. I'm simply posing questions

2. And wasn't he just resting? Any person who reads Naruto and understands the basis of chakra, is able to know that a person can keep making chakra while they are still. However, when person is fighting, that is a whole different story.

No one is talking about feats.. We are talking about him being able to replicate his Edo performance in his alive state... which has never been shown.

Resting? now aren't you the one speculating on things that weren't shown? yes everyone knows how chakra work but nagato was show focusing his energy with deva path on naruto, nothing to show he was "resting"
 

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No. Again, look at the difference in the skill of Sasuke's MS when he first got it, and his Danzo fight.
sure sasuke lost his sight about a week or two after he unlocked MS but itachi had his for a total of 7 years (he doesn't spam)
 

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sure sasuke lost his sight about a week or two after he unlocked MS but itachi had his for a total of 7 years (he doesn't spam)

Nonono. I am saying healthy Itachi might not have mastered the MS before he got his disease. Once he left Konoha he get his disease, and he had his MS unlocked right before he left Konoha.
 

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I get your point and I agree (mostly) but your explaination leaves much to be desiered.
 

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These questions will go unanswered for a long time.

Minato did seal the nine tails in himself, so he could use it of he didn't die
 

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Nonono. I am saying healthy Itachi might not have mastered the MS before he got his disease. Once he left Konoha he get his disease, and he had his MS unlocked right before he left Konoha.
It's fair to say he mastered his MS during the four year time between uchiha incident and search for the fifth hokage given his control over tsukuyomi.
 

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It's fair to say he mastered his MS during the four year time between uchiha incident and search for the fifth hokage given his control over tsukuyomi.

You realize he left the village and most likely got the disease in that exact time period?
 

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You realize he left the village and most likely got the disease in that exact time period?
We can't know that for sure now can we? i could even say that he could have contracted the disease between part 1 and part 2 while there's not to prove my claim there isn't anything to disprove it as well.
 

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The **** is prime Hiruzen at.

I also argue with Prime Nagato, but all i mostly state is med-high level elemental techniques which he hasn't shown, considering he can do all 5 basic elements.
 

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Resting? now aren't you the one speculating on things that weren't shown? yes everyone knows how chakra work but nagato was show focusing his energy with deva path on naruto, nothing to show he was "resting"

Yes i'm speculating, when the manga clearly shows him being still at one place... nice to know buddy.


These questions will go unanswered for a long time.

Minato did seal the nine tails in himself, so he could use it of he didn't die

His living body couldn't stand the process either way.. O-o
 

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Yes i'm speculating, when the manga clearly shows him being still at one place... nice to know buddy.
Manga shows gaara standing in one place during kimimaro's fight yet he ran out of chakra, manga shows every stationary character standing in one place doesn't mean they're gathering chakra in the process.
 

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Healthy Itachi was probably the one at the hotel room or during the riverside fight

But he had pretty sucky stamina too
 

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Desert Gaara who can control the landscape even w/o the Shukaku...

Prime Hiruzen who knew every jutsu of Konoha with full perfection...
 

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How can disease help, physically?
 
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