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UchihasRightfulHeir

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I am considering just the ocular powers. Put aside chakra capacity as it is irrelevant in this conversation.

Kakashi's DMS powers completely counter Kaguya's, since he can fly with Susanoo negating Dimensional Swapping(Considering that DMS has Dimensional swapping too), along with a gateway of techniques that proved to be effective such as Kamui Shuriken and Kamui Raikiri.

lol. DMS does not trump Kaguya's eye power. She can switch dimensions at will and everyone in the vicinity goes with her. While DMS has kamui it's not as haxx. Her rine-sharingan also has IT which is the most powerful genjutsu. So she takes this easily.
 

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lol. DMS does not trump Kaguya's eye power. She can switch dimensions at will and everyone in the vicinity goes with her. While DMS has kamui it's not as haxx. Her rine-sharingan also has IT which is the most powerful genjutsu. So she takes this easily.

IT is negated by PS, what is Dimensional Swapping supposed to do when DMS can dimensionally swap too? And PS Allows the user to fly and negate lava and harsh conditions of whatever dimesion they swap too(Considering the user doesn't just switch dimensions themselves)

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I'll only use characters with actual feats.

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. Sasuke
4. Madara
5. Obito/Kakashi Dms
6. Obito Ms
7. Itachi
8. Nagato
9. Shisui
10. Kakashi Ms

Won't mention the tenseigan cuz that was bullshit
 

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I am comparing the abilities of the eyes, the ocular powers. I could care less about Rikodous Chakra, the fact of the matter is that Kakashi's DMS abilities are stronger than Kaguya's, because they directly counter her. I honestly dont care about the fact that they are powered by Rikudou Sennin's Chakra, they are stronger than Kaguya's.

Ok I can see that.

If Kaguya is not immortal even with her Rinn Sharingan I see she will lose to Kamui Snipe, Kamui Raikiri surprise attack.

For small scale MT its still debatable.

I agree with only one tech Kamui is superior to Rinn Sharingan.

1. Rinn Sharingan on what we know:-

-Amenominaka
-Yomotsu Hirasaka
-MT

2. Obito MS on what we know:-

-Kamui warp
-Kamui Snipe
-Intangibility
-Genjutsu Sharingan
-Susanoo
 
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IT is negated by PS, what is Dimensional Swapping supposed to do when DMS can dimensionally swap too? And PS Allows the user to fly and negate lava and harsh conditions of whatever dimesion they swap too(Considering the user doesn't just switch dimensions themselves)

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It can only be negated by a rinnegan.
 

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It can only be negated by a rinnegan.

Are you ****ing retarded? Its the fact that the LIGHT can not shine through Susanoo. Not that he had the Rinnegan.

The light is what powers the IT and if the light can not reach you, then you are safe.

So as long as you have PS you are immune to IT.
 

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1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo still
3. Hamura - considering his Tenseigan and chakra
4. Sasuke
5. Madara - Dual Rinnegan but non-Jin
6. Toneri
7. Itachi
8. Nagato
9. Obito/Kakashi - DMS but non-Rikudou chakra

Dude even without non-rikudou chakra DMS Obito/Kakashi still neg Itachi, Nagato, Toneri, Madara, Sasuke. DMS kamui is just too hax and perfect susanoo with kamui shuriken is just beyond high tier level. Rikudou in this case is just giving them more durability and strength...
 

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Dude even without non-rikudou chakra DMS Obito/Kakashi still neg Itachi, Nagato, Toneri, Madara, Sasuke. DMS kamui is just too hax and perfect susanoo with kamui shuriken is just beyond high tier level. Rikudou in this case is just giving them more durability and strength...

Kakashi can created PS bcus of Rikudou chakra without it Obito and Kakashi is same level as other MS Users.

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You always said you're using fact right? I bring it to you and try to deny it.
 
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If its just dojutsu with no other power up then the list would much different. You forget everyone outside of Kaguyas family tree needs hashi cells to get the rinnegan. The only one who didnt was Nagato because he already had an activated Rinnegan and Uzumaki blood.
Meh Sasuke didn't awaken Rinnegan because of Hashirama's cell's. Madara did but not Sasuke. And Nagato didn't awaken a Rinnegan he was using Madara's.
 

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I am comparing the abilities of the eyes, the ocular powers. I could care less about Rikodous Chakra, the fact of the matter is that Kakashi's DMS abilities are stronger than Kaguya's, because they directly counter her. I honestly dont care about the fact that they are powered by Rikudou Sennin's Chakra, they are stronger than Kaguya's.

no they aren't...kamui comes no where close to amenominaka in terms of power
 

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Would suggest eliminating hago, hamura, and others whose feats are sparse and rely on hype to an extent.
 

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Madara is the best
 
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