[Discussion] Top 10 DF Masters

[Mugiwara kun]

Okay So I know there has been a lot if threads about DF,strongest df users and all but have been meaning to post a thread about my too ten DF users Who have mastered their dfs (not based on hype) and also showed a wide variety of attacks plus reasons....

Top 10
1) Sir Crocodile - well,he's one of the best df users out there,I still think it was plot that made him loose to luffy.

2) Doflamingo - currently my favourite villain and he can fly people,he can fly!!!!

3) Ace - if he hadn't died prematurely, he would have been the strongest in OP. Mastered he's df quite easily even though he hadn't had it for very long

4) Akainu/Akoiji /Kizaru - Which list is complete without the admirals/former admiral. they are the best of the marines (magma/ice/light). Akainu killed Ace,Akoiji defeated Luffy easily when he fought the whole crew, and kizaru, well,he's Kizaru )

5) Black Beard Teach (yami yami ) - I think he has the record for someone mastering his df at much a short amount of time. Defeated Ace

6) Edward(white beard) Newgate - good old whitebeard was the strongest there ever is at the time of his death. rumored to have been on par with Gol D Roger.

7)Law - his only weakness is the duration of time he can use his DF. it's the most hax df in OP universe and mastered by our favourite surgeon to kill doffy

8)Marco - Marco of the white beard pirate group, Said to be on par with an admiral. fought kizaru at marineford and did pretty well.

9) Boa Hancock - will literally and figuratively turn you into stone after winning your heart. Strongest female pirate out there I suppose and also a warlord

10)Enel/magellan - Enel has to be the best observation haki user right? combined with his df Which he has mastered makes him more than formidable. /Magellan, impel down warden

So that's my list,.sure there are lots of names I forgot though but that it. Sorry it ended up being too long. So discuss people, write your own list and tell me if you disagree with mine and why.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Okay So I know there has been a lot if threads about DF,strongest df users and all but have been meaning to post a thread about my too ten DF users Who have mastered their dfs (not based on hype) and also showed a wide variety of attacks plus reasons....

Top 10
1) Sir Crocodile - well,he's one of the best df users out there,I still think it was plot that made him loose to luffy.

2) Doflamingo - currently my favourite villain and he can fly people,he can fly!!!!

3) Ace - if he hadn't died prematurely, he would have been the strongest in OP. Mastered he's df quite easily even though he hadn't had it for very long

4) Akainu/Akoiji /Kizaru - Which list is complete without the admirals/former admiral. they are the best of the marines (magma/ice/light). Akainu killed Ace,Akoiji defeated Luffy easily when he fought the whole crew, and kizaru, well,he's Kizaru )

5) Black Beard Teach (yami yami ) - I think he has the record for someone mastering his df at much a short amount of time. Defeated Ace

6) Edward(white beard) Newgate - good old whitebeard was the strongest there ever is at the time of his death. rumored to have been on par with Gol D Roger.

7)Law - his only weakness is the duration of time he can use his DF. it's the most hax df in OP universe and mastered by our favourite surgeon to kill doffy

8)Marco - Marco of the white beard pirate group, Said to be on par with an admiral. fought kizaru at marineford and did pretty well.

9) Boa Hancock - will literally and figuratively turn you into stone after winning your heart. Strongest female pirate out there I suppose and also a warlord

10)Fujitora - an admiral, a very strong one at that even though his attacks are too one dimentional. But since he's an admiral, he has to have mastered his df,right?

So that's my list,.sure there are lots of names I forgot though but that it. Sorry it ended up being too long. So discuss people, write your own list and tell me if you disagree with mine and why.

Most of the people in your list got in because their DF is OP, not because they have mastered their DFs more than everyone else.

 

[Mugiwara kun]

Most of the people in your list got in because their DF is OP, not because they have mastered their DFs more than everyone else.

of course you have to have a powerful df to be relevant but most on the list have taken their dfs to the top of the food chain

 

[Hexuze]

Fujitora shouldn't even be no where near on that list. It was implied that he's new to his powers.

1. Doflamingo
2. Aokiji
3. Ace/Luffy
4. Crocodile/Enel
5. Chopper
6. Magellan/Law
7. Robin
8. Absalom
9. Hawkins
10. Apoo

 

[Magi]

1) Enel
2) Crocodile
3) Doffy
4-6) Old gen admirals
7) Rob Lucci
8) Marco
9) Magellan
10) Kuma

 

[Anduril]

1. Luffy
2. Chopper
3. Doflamingo
4. Enel
5. Law
6. Smoker
7. Lucci
8. Magellan
9. Kuzan
10. Whitebeard

 

[ultraChalk]

So... You put fujitora who knew almost nothing about his DF but don't put Enel who knows nothing BUT his DF.

k.

 

[Mugiwara kun]

So... You put fujitora who knew almost nothing about his DF but don't put Enel who knows nothing BUT his DF.

k.

Fuji originally wasn't supposed to be there but couldn't remember Who I was supposed to put up at the time I was writing the thread. Now edited

 

[shon93]

Where the hell is Luffy look at what he has done with Rubber

 

[Anduril]

Fujitora shouldn't even be no where near on that list. It was implied that he's new to his powers.

1. Doflamingo
2. Aokiji
3. Ace/Luffy
4. Crocodile/Enel
5. Chopper
6. Magellan/Law
7. Robin
8. Absalom
9. Hawkins
10. Apoo

1. Luffy
2. Chopper
3. Doflamingo
4. Enel
5. Law
6. Smoker
7. Lucci
8. Magellan
9. Kuzan
10. Whitebeard

Where the hell is Luffy look at what he has done with Rubber

Look at the quotes bro! U_U

 

[Punk Hazard]

I'm ruling out people like Absalom and Ace who's DF ability is basic or they use basically. This is in terms of either the fruit being complex, or the user using it in a complex/out-of-the-box/creative way, but no particular order

1. Crocodile
2. Ivankov
3. Enel
4. Chopper
5. Luffy
6. Whitebeard
7. Law
8. Doflamingo
9. Robin
10. Daz Bones

 

[jiraiya lives]

1. Crocodile
2. Doflamingo
3. Law (probably used his DF in the most diverse ways as opposed to everyone else, still need to come over that duration weakness)
4. Kuma (I still don't quite understand his fruit but the range of things he's able to do is masterful)
5. Robin
6. Enel
7. Luffy (he's made good use out of a rubber fruit)
8. Lucci (post time skip he may be top 5)
9. Kizaru (seems to have mastered his fruit more than the other admirals)
10. Chopper

 

[Mugiwara kun]

I still don't understand why anyone will include chopper. Yes he has versatility but he's still got a long way to go. Marco is a better zoan user. He's the only zoan df user we've seen that can turn any body part...can partially turn into a Phoenix. that's ingenuity and it only takes a master to do that

 

[A v i]

IMO Admirals are the best and Law's mastery over his DF and the things he can do with his DF are impressive as hell.

 

[ultraChalk]

I still don't understand why anyone will include chopper. Yes he has versatility but he's still got a long way to go. Marco is a better zoan user. He's the only zoan df user we've seen that can turn any body part...can partially turn into a Phoenix. that's ingenuity and it only takes a master to do that

That's only because he's stronger that he's perceived as a better user. In reality Chopper is.

He can morph his human fruit into 6 different forms man. Imo that's WAY more impressive than partial Zoan transformation, and advantageous.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I still don't understand why anyone will include chopper. Yes he has versatility but he's still got a long way to go. Marco is a better zoan user. He's the only zoan df user we've seen that can turn any body part...can partially turn into a Phoenix. that's ingenuity and it only takes a master to do that

Some of the most powerful Zoan users, such as Rob Lucci, have only demonstrated three forms. Chopper has 6. Marco turning any body part is just a partial transformation that any Zoan can do, come back to me when he shows 6 different forms.

IMO Admirals are the best and Law's mastery over his DF and the things he can do with his DF are impressive as hell.

Admiral's powers are so basic though, especially Akainu and Aokiji. Sure, mastering the DF of itself isn't easy, but you don't need to think outside of the box for those DFs.

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

Admiral's powers are so basic though, especially Akainu and Aokiji. Sure, mastering the DF of itself isn't easy, but you don't need to think outside of the box for those DFs.

OP said "Okay So I know there has been a lot if threads about DF,strongest df users and all but have been meaning to post a thread about my too ten DF users Who have mastered their dfs (not based on hype) and also showed a wide variety of attacks plus reasons....

This is no problem if the DF's looks simple or not, but the point are the users has shown that them mastered DF's until limit the DF's potential.

1. WB ............Control his destructive DF without hurt his own ally...
2,3. Akainu & Kuzan...........look on Punk Hazard
4,5,6. Kizaru, Magellan, Doffy...........Kizaru, Yata no Kagami , Magellan, Venom Demon, Doffy, Bird Cage
7,8,9. BB, Ace, Marco........BB & Ace, look on Banana Rock Arc, Marco "full control regenerate power"
10,.... Lucci, Robin, Luffy, Kuma, Enel, Law......... you know ....

Chopper not mastered monster point...
Crocodile not mastered sand weakness ...

Edit: Add Ivankov ... he around 5th ...

 

[Punk Hazard]

OP said "Okay So I know there has been a lot if threads about DF,strongest df users and all but have been meaning to post a thread about my too ten DF users Who have mastered their dfs (not based on hype) and also showed a wide variety of attacks plus reasons....

This is no problem if the DF's looks simple or not, but the point are the users has shown that them mastered DF's until limit the DF's potential.

1. WB ............Control his destructive DF without hurt his own ally...
2,3. Akainu & Kuzan...........look on Punk Hazard
4,5,6. Kizaru, Magellan, Doffy...........Kizaru, Yata no Kagami , Magellan, Venom Demon, Doffy, Bird Cage
7,8,9. BB, Ace, Marco........BB & Ace, look on Banana Rock Arc, Marco "full control regenerate power"
10,.... Lucci, Robin, Luffy, Kuma, Enel, Law......... you know ....

Chopper not mastered monster point...
Crocodile not mastered sand weakness ...

Edit: Add Ivankov ... he around 5th ...

You cannot master a weakness. It's impossible for Crocodile to ever ¨master¨ a weakness. He will always be susceptible to liquids. That applies to ALL DFs.

If you are looking at top ten DF masters, then it's a matter of looking at who mastered their DF the best. If you can master your DF in one step, then you are not top ten in the context of this list. A more complex DF will garner you a higher spot. Akainu, Kizaru, Ace and Kuzan shouldn't be in this list because mastering their particular DFs is not complex, it is a straightforward matter.

 

[ZoroXTashigi]

You cannot master a weakness. It's impossible for Crocodile to ever ¨master¨ a weakness. He will always be susceptible to liquids. That applies to ALL DFs.

True, I worded it wrong, maybe the proper word isn't master a weakness, but reducing effect of weakness, like luffy did with gear 2.

If you are looking at top ten DF masters, then it's a matter of looking at who mastered their DF the best. If you can master your DF in one step, then you are not top ten in the context of this list. A more complex DF will garner you a higher spot. Akainu, Kizaru, Ace and Kuzan shouldn't be in this list because mastering their particular DFs is not complex, it is a straightforward matter.

I not agree with you, because the point is "DF users Who have mastered their DFs. and not "DF users Who have complex DFs, and shown he have many attack style, even if he isn't mastered their DF, because the DF's has a lot potential."

 

[Punk Hazard]

True, I worded it wrong, maybe the proper word isn't master a weakness, but reducing effect of weakness, like luffy did with gear 2.


I not agree with you, because the point is "DF users Who have mastered their DFs. and not "DF users Who have complex DFs, and shown he have many attack style, even if he isn't mastered their DF, because the DF's has a lot potential."

Not really. If your DF was more complex to master, or if the way you use your DF has a certain level of creativity, then you mastering it is more impressive. Because it's more impressive, you deserve a higher spot on the list. For example, which is more creative: Discovering you can use your vibrations to grab and tilt the air, or figuring out you can use your ice to freeze things? What's harder, figuring out how to partially transform your arm into magma and then using that offensively, or learning what every hormone is, how much is needed to do a certain effect, what part of the body that hormone affects, and how to combine them and use them in battle? The answer to the former is the former, and the answer is the latter is the latter. Therefore, Whitebeard and Ivankov deserve higher spots on this list because their fruits are more complex or there was a more creative usage.

Which would you rank above the other in terms being a student, the student who gets a 90 in Algebra 1, or the student who gets a 90 in college level calculus?